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exquisite tea posted:I'm also shopping for a new monitor and it seems like the main knock against TN is for video playback. But if I don't really watch a lot of Netflix on my PC and just wanna game, is there a more practical difference? the knock against TN is not video playback, it's that the colors are really bad and distort depending on the angle you look at it. The viewing angle is bad enough that the bottom of the screen will have a different color signature from the top assuming you're sitting 12-24" from the screen.
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exquisite tea posted:I'm also shopping for a new monitor and it seems like the main knock against TN is for video playback. But if I don't really watch a lot of Netflix on my PC and just wanna game, is there a more practical difference? TN monitors just have bad color, contrast and low image quality in general, it affects pretty much every usage case of the monitor, games, movies, photos and even web browsing. A TN monitor gave me neck problems because I was always moving my head around trying to get an angle where part of the screen wasn't completely washed out.
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Did any interesting gaming monitors get announced recently (computex)? I am considering the 1440p 144Hz+ Asus IPS Gsync panels but will wait for the next big thing if it will probably be out this year.
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Aquila posted:Did any interesting gaming monitors get announced recently (computex)? I am considering the 1440p 144Hz+ Asus IPS Gsync panels but will wait for the next big thing if it will probably be out this year. Nothing worth waiting around for no.
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Aquila posted:Did any interesting gaming monitors get announced recently (computex)? I am considering the 1440p 144Hz+ Asus IPS Gsync panels but will wait for the next big thing if it will probably be out this year. I mean, there is a 240hz monitor coming out soon http://120hzmonitors.com/monitor-list-120hz-144hz-165hz-200hz-240hz/ Not sure if it has any noticeable difference over 144hz though
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Mister Fister posted:I mean, there is a 240hz monitor coming out soon Only in very specific circumstances. I had an ex who had a 240hz CRT which she used to play LoL which really uh did not benefit at all. It's very trivial to see how good 144hz is but the difference between that and 240hz is far more subtle. I mean, it's still there when you're looking at fast transversal speeds like projectiles moving fast from one side to the other but most of the time it's very subtle.
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Etrips posted:Nothing worth waiting around for no. Thank you, looks like my choices are Asus PG279Q and Acer XB270HU still?
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Aquila posted:Thank you, looks like my choices are Asus PG279Q and Acer XB270HU still? I would spring for the Acer XB271HU if you can spend the little extra.
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The XB271HU is usually cheaper than the PG279Q (here in Australia the difference is like $200), and is a better monitor with a newer panel revision. I seriously can't see any reason to buy the PG279Q unless you absolutely must have the ROG branding to match your ROG keyboard, mouse, motherboard, GPU, memory, headphones, USB sticks and mouse pad.
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Etrips posted:I would spring for the Acer XB271HU if you can spend the little extra. Hmmm I think that's the one I meant, and it appears to cost about the same as the 165Hz Asus IPS. I seem to have an irrational dislike of Acer monitors, probably stemming from a job where they insisted on buying them as they were the cheapest of cheap at the time, so it's probably Asus PG279Q for me. e: " is a better monitor with a newer panel revision" any more info on this? I was unaware of any revisions to either.
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Aquila posted:e: " is a better monitor with a newer panel revision" any more info on this? I was unaware of any revisions to either. The story is that both the Asus and the Acer had bad quality control when they first came out. Dead/stuck pixels, debris stuck to the inside of the panel, backlight bleeding at the edges, that kind of thing. The new Acer seems to have cut down on those issues, according to the fact that fewer people make horrible internet posts complaining about it.
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Does anyone have experience with Wasabi Mango monitors? I'm strongly considering the UHD 490 to replace my aging 720p projector for gaming/movie/entertainment purposes. I don't need a smart TV or anything like that, and supporting 4k60 over HDMI 2.0/DP1.3 should keep it in good shape while I'm sticking to 1080p until video cards catch up. TIA for the help!
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fozzy fosbourne posted:I thought the PG279Q and XB271HU used the same panel but learned today that they are actually slightly different: Check out this cool and good Fozzy Fosborne post about the XB271HU and the PG279Q. Most of the content in the post is quotes that haven't carried over with my quote, so click the link to their post for the full rundown.
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NewFatMike posted:Does anyone have experience with Wasabi Mango monitors? I'm strongly considering the UHD 490 to replace my aging 720p projector for gaming/movie/entertainment purposes. All I know is a lot of the Wasabi models support FreeSync either out of the box or with a firmware update. So, consider Radeon cards as they'll smooth over any framerate drops if you do get them. Also, compare the different models as they all source wildly different panels. A 42-inch model might be an LG IPS and a 40-inch model might be Samsung PLS, or whatever.
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I think it was Tek Syndicate that did a video review and really liked the model they got. It seems like a solid price for a big 4K, which is tricky to get from other sources, and Freesync is a nice bonus (IE, if you have a good radeon option it's a value add, but don't disqualify it if you don't).
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Zero VGS posted:All I know is a lot of the Wasabi models support FreeSync either out of the box or with a firmware update. So, consider Radeon cards as they'll smooth over any framerate drops if you do get them. Ah, good call! It looks like it uses an LG AH IPS panel, so it should be pretty good quality? xthetenth posted:I think it was Tek Syndicate that did a video review and really liked the model they got. It seems like a solid price for a big 4K, which is tricky to get from other sources, and Freesync is a nice bonus (IE, if you have a good radeon option it's a value add, but don't disqualify it if you don't). FreeSync is definitely part of why I looked into those - I'm definitely a fan of being able to get into that later on when 4k becomes more within reach for plebs like me. Until then, I will happily take 1080p with FreeSync for buttery goodness. Even a 50% increase in resolution in half the screen size will still look really really good. I don't need all the Vizio smart TV features since I have a Chromecast and a receiver with 4k60 passthrough, although the lack of local dimming may be worth the tradeoff for lower response time (I will have to see if my receiver screws with that at all as well, but in that case I can likely just route audio out through it). All that, and it's difficult to make use of the limited space in my apartment decorating around a giant projector setup when I can't get ceiling access (they're 15 feet up and violates my lease to drill into it anyway). Thanks again!
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Anyone know any info on when Acer posts stuff on their Recertified site? Any plugins or ways to monitor the stock? I have the nowinstock.net alert, but I feel like that will be too slow.
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You could try the visualping or distill extensions for chrome
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Is there a significant benefit to getting a 144 Hz monitor if you plan to be playing games at 60 fps? I was looking at the Dell 1440p UP2716D monitor and the reviews were mentioning its 60 Hz refresh as a negative
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fozzy fosbourne posted:You could try the visualping or distill extensions for chrome Thanks, setup both
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Is there a significant benefit to getting a 144 Hz monitor if you plan to be playing games at 60 fps? I was looking at the Dell 1440p UP2716D monitor and the reviews were mentioning its 60 Hz refresh as a negative Yes, first off not every game you play will run at 60 FPS, if you play something older and less demanding then the higher refresh will greatly benefit you. Everything else including desktop usage will be much smoother and just look better in general because of the higher refresh. Also you are more likely to keep the monitor around for a long time and upgrade the video card more often, so when you have a better video card a few years down the line you will see some really nice benefits from the higher refresh rate.
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LeninVS posted:The x34 predator is going for about 1900$ in Canada these days. I ended up purchasing this. Everything seems great, except when I plug in with display port, sometimes I get no sync. When it is working, and I try to run the monitor at >60hz it also loses sync. Hopefully its just an issue with my old 970 or with the cable that I have. Its not the one that came with this monitor.
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LeninVS posted:I ended up purchasing this. Yeah, try it with the cable that came with the monitor. I think they come with bizlink vesa certified dp cables. Which, as I understand it, are the same cables as the Acell branded cables you can find at online shopping places. The length of the cable can be a factor, too. Longer than 3m, you are likely to have issues (and frankly I speculate 3m might be hit and miss at max bandwidth for dp 1.2)
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Yeah, try it with the cable that came with the monitor. I think they come with bizlink vesa certified dp cables. Which, as I understand it, are the same cables as the Acell branded cables you can find at online shopping places. The length of the cable can be a factor, too. Longer than 3m, you are likely to have issues (and frankly I speculate 3m might be hit and miss at max bandwidth for dp 1.2) The guy I got the monitor from did not give me the cable that it came with. I purchased a acell brand cable on amazon.ca yesterday, hopefully that does the trick.
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How's 430 $ Canadian for an LG 27" IPS monitor (lg-27ud58-b)? http://www.ncix.com/detail/lg-27ud58-b-27in-ultra-hd-34-133214.htm I'd like a minimum of a 27" IPS monitor. Ideally I'd go a bit larger but I do want at least 1440px vertical resolution. Freesync and all really don't matter to me much at this point. I'll likely need to upgrade my graphics card no matter what, right now on an Nvidia GTX 560 Ti so could use a bit of a bump. Any recommendations that keep costs down while still giving me the screen space, resolution, and IPS display I'd like? Or arguments against what I think I want?
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I'm looking for a monitor for my friend, and was hoping the thread had some advice. She's a digital artist who plays some games (mostly World of Warcraft) and looking for something under $300 CAD. The main things she's concerned about are good colors (obviously) and anything that might lessen eye strain since she spends a lot of time staring at the screen while she works. So other than IPS (obviously), what else should I be looking for?
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Nemo2342 posted:I'm looking for a monitor for my friend, and was hoping the thread had some advice. She's a digital artist who plays some games (mostly World of Warcraft) and looking for something under $300 CAD. Flicker-free backlighting and maybe a stand with adjustable height.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Yes, first off not every game you play will run at 60 FPS, if you play something older and less demanding then the higher refresh will greatly benefit you. It works the other way around, too. If you play something demanding, and it doesn't hit 60 fps, the stutter or tearing will be less than half on a 144Hz monitor when compared to a 60 Hz one. (And that is *without* Freesync/Gsync etc)
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In the market for a 27" 1440p 144Hz monitor. Looks like the two main options are the Acer XB271HU and Asus PG279Q. Both of which have quality control issues related to backlight bleeding, Asus probably being worse. Does that pretty much sum it up? I'm really not into the design of the Acer XB271HU. Is it much better than the previous gen XB270HU?
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Melraidin posted:How's 430 $ Canadian for an LG 27" IPS monitor (lg-27ud58-b)? http://www.ncix.com/detail/lg-27ud58-b-27in-ultra-hd-34-133214.htm I'm using an LG 27UD68 and am generally pleased with it. Picture looks good, colours are great out of the box and the ag coating is subtle but still works (can't stand using glossy screens). On the downside black levels are pretty average, there is a bunch of glow and some bleed visible in a completely dark room (typical of cheaper IPS screens in my experience and better than my old Dell U2412s). The stand sucks compared to the Dell - no height adjustment and it's kinda wobbly so I'll get an arm for it eventually. Bezels are tiny which makes it barely larger overall than the old 24" Dells (and because I went from two screens to one the desk is way less cluttered). Has an external power brick which I don't like but I guess is typical these days. Also the included DisplayPort cable died within a week which made me thing I had a faulty unit - first it stopped working at 4k 60Hz, then 4k at all, then at any resolution. Caused much head scratching before I thought to borrow a replacement from work. BTW I don't think you can get it working at 4k with your current graphics card (certainly not at 60Hz and 30 is just bad even on the desktop) so check that before buying dissss fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Is there a 27"-32" 4k IPS GLOSSY monitor out there somewhere? I see there are plenty of 27" 4k monitors with anti-glare coating. But I don't want AG coating at all. After using a 27" 1440p glossy IPS for so long, anything with AG coating just looks grainy to me.
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stevewm posted:Is there a 27"-32" 4k IPS GLOSSY monitor out there somewhere? If you absolutely had to, you can remove the AG yourself, there's YouTube guides on it. Just put a damp paper towel against it and keep dampening it for a few hours and the AG will peel right off from a corner. I've done it and what's underneath will scratch easily (no hardness coating) but otherwise it works.
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Zero VGS posted:If you absolutely had to, you can remove the AG yourself, there's YouTube guides on it. Just put a damp paper towel against it and keep dampening it for a few hours and the AG will peel right off from a corner. I thought about that on my UM2412, but at least some people have discovered on some monitors the AG coating is actually structurally part of the polarizer. After removing the AG film, the polarizer starts developing hairline cracks, There are a ton of non-antiglare 1440p monitors. Why no 4k non-AG? 
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For what it's worth, I think the AG coating on the xb271hu is pretty good. Since I've seen much worse examples in the past, I wonder if AG coating has simply gotten a bit better. For reference I do a lot of work on apple cinema displays and a 5k retina iMac and I honestly haven't thought much about the difference until now. This guy seems to pay close attention to the coatings of displays, so maybe check out some of his reviews: http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/m...tml#post1359166
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Refurbed XB271HU are still available through Acer on ebay and Amazon right now. 19 total. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-27-Pre...sid=p5731.m3795 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H22AGQ6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2WEQERLWJ42N3
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Oh hell yeah, been waiting for the refurbs to come back in stock. Thanks for the info.
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fozzy fosbourne posted:For what it's worth, I think the AG coating on the xb271hu is pretty good.
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Oh yeah, just remembered. Last week I was complaining about the XB271's power LED brightness. There's an OSD option to turn it off after a few seconds, I just didn't see it. Too bad I already sharpied it. 
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NewFatMike posted:Ah, good call! It looks like it uses an LG AH IPS panel, so it should be pretty good quality? Post an update if you end up with one! I've been keeping an eye on the Wasabi Mango (what a name, somebody should make Burger Apple pie monitors) for their big size and low cost. Which is also incidentally how I introduce myself to the ladies. Unfortunately they do seem to be using LG IPS panels in the 43" and 49" and Samsung PVA in the 40", which is of course the one that I want since I'll be using it as a monitor on my desk and not a TV. How's PVA nowadays though? I remember these panels being a good option back in the day but have no idea how they evolved recently. Unrelated to this, what's the situation with HDR? Manufacturers seem to be starting pushing this in TVs to be used with HDR blurays but I haven't heard anything on the PC front since AMD was making some noises about the stuff a year ago.
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