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Cerepol
Dec 2, 2011



ICHIBAHN posted:

Gervais is dogshit. Hasn't done anything funny for over a decade.

He got carl Pilkington a show and that's all he needed to do. They child cut out his posts and it'd still be an enjoyable show

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ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Aye I love Karl but Gervais was last involved, in terms of creating comedy, in anything decent was like ten year ago.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Who gives a gently caress about Ricky Gervais goddamn

AAB
Nov 5, 2010

Kanye West has a new video out but you morons are talking about Ricky Gervais, smh

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Link to the video?

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

"You mean the pop star that I don't know yet worship and idolize is being objectified like some kind of... idol? THIS MAKES ME UPSET!"

Lena Dunham, patron saint of the stupid.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-lena-dunham-slams-kanye-west-famous-20160627-snap-story.html

quote:

Lena Dunham loves art. She loves Kanye West. But right now, she doesn’t love Kanye West’s art.

In fact, she’s calling the “Famous” video “one of the more disturbing ‘artistic’ efforts in recent memory.”

Harsh words from a woman we know has no problem with nudity whatsoever. Dunham took the video – wait, Kanye calls it the “visual” for his song – in the context of acts of violence against women.

“Now I have to see the prone, unconscious, waxy bodies of famous women, twisted like they've been drugged and chucked aside at a rager?,” she wrote Monday on Facebook. “It gives me such a sickening sense of dis-ease.”

The video – ugh, again, the “visual” – includes a tableau of famous people nude and tangled in sheets, at least some of them faked, who have figured somehow in Kanye’s life and the world of the famous: George W. Bush, Anna Wintour, Donald Trump, Rihanna, Chris Brown, Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, Ray J., Amber Rose, Caitlyn Jenner and Bill Cosby. West is at the center with Swift on his right and his wife on his left.

It sounds as if Dunham was hit on a personal level as well as a feminist one: “Famous” is the song where West says, “I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex,” because, he says, he made her famous.” And Lena and Taylor are BFFs.

Kanye West unveils risque 'Famous' video featuring naked celebrities, tweets he is ready to be sued
Kanye West unveils risque 'Famous' video featuring naked celebrities, tweets he is ready to be sued
“I know that there's a hipper or cooler reaction to have than the one I'm currently having,” the “Girls” guru said. “But guess what? I don't have a hip cool reaction, because seeing a woman I love like Taylor Swift (… that one hurt to look at, I couldn't look), a woman I admire like Rihanna or Anna, reduced to a pair of waxy breasts made by some special effects guy in the Valley, it makes me feel sad and unsafe and worried for the teenage girls who watch this and may not understand that grainy roving camera as the stuff of snuff films.”

The project debuted Friday in a couple of showings during a promotional event at the Forum in Inglewood that was attended by thousands, and there was a showing in downtown L.A. Sunday night, West tweeted hours before it happened. There's also a snippet of footage over at Rolling Stone, but other than that the video lives only on Tidal.

Well, it’s on the streaming service and will also be on the E! Network, home of “Keeping Up With the Kardashians,” at 7 and 11 p.m. Monday night, according to an afternoon tweet from the rapper. Guessing Dunham won’t be setting her DVR?

“I was raised in the art world by a dad who painted aggro scenes of sexuality and war and a mom who, ironically enough, has photographed some butt naked life-sized dolls of her own. I live for the nude rabble rousing of Carolee Schneemann and Hannah Wilke, for Kathy Acker's arty porn, for Paul McCarthy's gnomes with butt plugs and Vito Acconci masturbating under the gallery floor and Carrie Mae Weems shedding a blinding light on the pleasures and terrors of black womanhood,” said Dunham, hopefully to put her opinions in context and not just to drop a bunch of arty names. “If it's been banned, I'll probably love it. Because I know that art's job is to make us think in ways that aren't always tidy or comfortable. But this feels different.”

The piece, West explained to Vanity Fair, is “not in support or anti any of [the people in the video]. It’s a comment on fame."

That take would appear to be lost on Dunham.

“Here's the thing, Kanye: you're cool,” she wrote. “Make a statement on fame and privacy and the Illuminati or whatever is on your mind! But I can't watch it, don't want to watch it, if it feels informed and inspired by the aspects of our culture that make women feel unsafe even in their own beds, in their own bodies.”

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
saint pablo tour coming here in sept tickets for fairly bad seats are 80$ but ill probably buy anyway :getin:

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

ruddiger posted:

"You mean the pop star that I don't know yet worship and idolize is being objectified like some kind of... idol? THIS MAKES ME UPSET!"

Lena Dunham, patron saint of the stupid.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-lena-dunham-slams-kanye-west-famous-20160627-snap-story.html

Yeah she's retarded

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Lena Dunham knows a thing or two about exploiting women's bodies, having molested her younger sister

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Turn left thread nooooooo

Anonymous John
Mar 8, 2002

ruddiger posted:

"You mean the pop star that I don't know yet worship and idolize is being objectified like some kind of... idol? THIS MAKES ME UPSET!"


Isn't Dunham one of T-Swift's disposable social media friends?

Ehh who cares anyway what she has to say.

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007


Anonymous John posted:

Isn't Dunham one of T-Swift's disposable social media friends?

Ehh who cares anyway what she has to say.
Yeah who cares what women have to say about potentially exploitative images of women? :v:

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
Yeah, I understand what Kanye was going for but it's super hosed up and creepy to have nude dummies of people made without their consent. That's like some Real Doll poo poo.

Especially since the only ones with their stuff on full display are women. Like if Bill Cosby and Ray Jay had their dicks totally out it might be different, but the choice was consciously made to only "expose" the women.

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

Facts (Charlie Heat Version) is so good. I love it

Anonymous John
Mar 8, 2002

The Singing Chav posted:

Yeah who cares what women have to say about potentially exploitative images of women? :v:

Oh that's right i forgot; Dunham is the voice of a generation.

And of course it's exploitative, but that type of artistic rendering goes along with being a public figure. Also agreed that it could have used more penises, particularly Kanye's large schlong since we all know he's a dick anyway. Or would a bleached rear end in a top hat be more appropriate?

Ass Catchcum
Dec 21, 2008
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP FOREVER.
Yeah, guys, this video is dumb. For real, don't support it.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
https://twitter.com/GQMagazine/status/748185898777477120


Yeezy Yeezy Yeezy Just jumped over jumpman


Edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh1_ioaEDDw

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Pay Kanye a billy not to run away

Lipids
Sep 10, 2006
The "Famous" video is up on YouTube

https://youtu.be/p7FCgw_GlWc

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!
Wow, that was way creepier than I thought it would be. From the promo pictures, I figured it would be something that was, I don't know, classier than that, somehow? But yeah, that's way hosed up.

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

Xanderkish posted:

But yeah, that's way hosed up.

That's pretty much the point. It's supposed to be an unnerving commentary on the spotlight of fame and how it presents these individuals and rips away any modesty or comfortability in modern society.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

aBagorn posted:

That's pretty much the point. It's supposed to be an unnerving commentary on the spotlight of fame and how it presents these individuals and rips away any modesty or comfortability in modern society.

Yeah, and if I kill a dog on live television it can be a commentary on the dehumanizing use of violent spectacle in the media but I have still killed a dog on live television.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Yes, this is similar to Kanye murdering a dog on television.

nice

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Xanderkish posted:

Yeah, and if I kill a dog on live television it can be a commentary on the dehumanizing use of violent spectacle in the media but I have still killed a dog on live television.

Lol

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

It's kinda shocking that YouTube allowed that to stay up. Good for Yeezy. I mean it's seriously creepy, but it's artistic and good for Yeezy.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

GreyPowerVan posted:

Yes, this is similar to Kanye murdering a dog on television.

nice

I'm not directly comparing it to him murdering a dog. I'm saying that making something awful and creepy for an artistic statement does not take away the fact that it is awful and creepy. And for real, making fake versions of the people in your life naked on a bed is seriously hosed, no matter what the statement.

My bad if I conveyed otherwise.

Paperback Writer
May 1, 2006

so do we think there's going to be a good opener for the tour, if one at all? Chance and Young Thug are out(got their own shows planned that conflict)

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Xanderkish posted:

I'm not directly comparing it to him murdering a dog. I'm saying that making something awful and creepy for an artistic statement does not take away the fact that it is awful and creepy. And for real, making fake versions of the people in your life naked on a bed is seriously hosed, no matter what the statement.

My bad if I conveyed otherwise.

I think a better analogy would be if he sold tickets to let people watch him jerking off onto a bunch of fake nude celebrity photoshops he made. Yeah, you could justify that as art, but it doesn't mean he's not chewing the nastygum

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

White people comparing Kanye's music video to physical rape and animal murder. I love it.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

ruddiger posted:

White people comparing Kanye's music video to physical rape and animal murder. I love it.

Explain where race plays into this?

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Kanye west innocent!!!!!!

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


White dude here reporting in. Video makes me uncomfortable and its why I completely appreciate it. I get the point he's making, and while it's easy for it to fall off the cliff into rape culture land, I think this one just dangles its feet off the edge of the bluffs rather than nose dives off of 'em.

atrus50
Dec 24, 2008

Paperback Writer posted:

so do we think there's going to be a good opener for the tour, if one at all? Chance and Young Thug are out(got their own shows planned that conflict)

its pandaman

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Paperback Writer posted:

so do we think there's going to be a good opener for the tour, if one at all? Chance and Young Thug are out(got their own shows planned that conflict)

Timmy Timmy Timmy Turner. He been wishing for a burner to kill errbody walking you know that it's on in the *unintelligible sounds*

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
Video rules, especially for pissing off that sad hypocrite Dunham.

Ass Catchcum
Dec 21, 2008
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP FOREVER.
Video is immature and for people who wanna think a dumb thing is a highbrow thing when it's really just a dumb thing. Guy is getting older and scared he's losing touch (like happened to jay) so he does loud things that keep people talking about him. Thinks he knows about fashion and poo poo. Dude only good at two things making some killer songs and running his mouth.

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

Lipids posted:

The "Famous" video is up on YouTube

https://youtu.be/p7FCgw_GlWc

this video ruined famous for me.

but in like a good way? I liked it

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

rear end Catchcum posted:

Video is immature and for people who wanna think a dumb thing is a highbrow thing when it's really just a dumb thing. Guy is getting older and scared he's losing touch (like happened to jay) so he does loud things that keep people talking about him. Thinks he knows about fashion and poo poo. Dude only good at two things making some killer songs and running his mouth.

Dude is literally getting paid by Addidas and is going to have his own signature line and stores with them.

I don't gently caress with any of his shoes or clothes but they are apperantly doing ok if he got that deal.

Kanye has always done dumb "art" poo poo and said poo poo for attention before.

This is literally what Kanye has always been. He hasn't changed much. Which is probably his actual problem.

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

rear end Catchcum posted:

Video is immature and for people who wanna think a dumb thing is a highbrow thing when it's really just a dumb thing.
This sums up ye's entire career as of late.

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Ass Catchcum
Dec 21, 2008
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP FOREVER.
Pablo is dope as gently caress Kanye would be a Jedi master if he just dropped his masterpieces quietly out of nowhere.

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