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HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

shaggar was right

# ? Jul 2, 2016 16:50

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# ? May 12, 2024 13:11

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Is there a way with outlook to have it alert me if a particular inbox has not had any new mail for...36 hours? lol

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:08

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

Valeyard posted:

It's version control integration is terrible though

yeah, just use the built-in terminal for version control.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:09

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

Shaggar posted:

emacs is not an ide. emacs is a text editor

if we're letting people get away with calling atom an ide, emacs is an ide.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:11

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Valeyard posted:

Is there a way with outlook to have it alert me if a particular inbox has not had any new mail for...36 hours? lol

idk what outlook version you use, but chances are you can script reminder up in vba. maybe some filter or rule or reminder thing can do that for you too

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:11

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

jony neuemonic posted:

if we're letting people get away with calling atom an ide, emacs is an ide.

atom is not an ide either

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:13

Asymmetrikon: Oct 30, 2009; I believe you're a big dork!

is vs code an ide

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:22

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:25

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

idk, vs code comes with a debugger UI and version control UI out of the box

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:27

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

fleshweasel posted:

idk, vs code comes with a debugger UI and version control UI out of the box

so does emacs. it's still not an ide.

in the case of emacs I'll allow "diy build your own ide kit"

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:32

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

emacs is an ide by any reasonable definition of an ide.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 17:51

Breakfast All Day: Oct 21, 2004

definition of ide: have you ever spent a whole work day janitoring checkboxes and dropdowns in nested tabs

# ? Jul 2, 2016 18:07

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

emacs doesn't even try to force you to adopt its own terrible build system, and it hardly has any toolbars visible ootb. there's no way it counts as an ide.

# ? Jul 2, 2016 19:03

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

i think you will find that emacs has an absolutely haraam ootb toolbar

# ? Jul 2, 2016 19:36

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

loving hell if eclipse decides I wanted to import java.awt.List not java.util.List one more time I swear I will hunt down the person responsible

when in the history of programming has anyone ever wanted to import java.awt.List

like there's even a <Butts> right after it, eclipse, you know java.awt.List isn't generic, why the gently caress are you choosing the possible import that immediately leads to a compile error instead of the one that leads to a successful compilation

# ? Jul 2, 2016 22:33

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

uncurable mlady posted:

rob pike is kind of an rear end in a top hat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4iVAcYyWN0&t=185s

# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:24

quiggy: Aug 7, 2010; [in Russian] Oof.

emacs and vim are both good text editors, but they're not ides. if you want an ide, use an ide

# ? Jul 2, 2016 23:48

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

quiggy posted:

emacs and vim are both good text editors

this is not one of the approved opinions, comrade

# ? Jul 3, 2016 00:30

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

so i'm trying to figure out how transforming the normal vector of a triangle works so i can change the eye position from (0,0,5) and have flat shading continue to work

http://www.songho.ca/opengl/gl_normaltransform.html

i have no idea what the notation means

the tutorial site says:

quote:

And the left parentheses tell us that a normal to the transformed object can be computed from the old normal by applying the inverse transpose matrix of the affine mapping.

so... N_world = inverse(transpose(transformation_matrix) * N_local?

# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:09

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Luigi Thirty posted:

so... N_world = inverse(transpose(transformation_matrix) * N_local?

yeah, looking at the first link

(eye) = transpose(inverse(transformation_matrix)) * (object) : for object coordinates in column
(eye) = (object) * inverse(transformation_matrix) : for object coordinates in row

transpose and inversion order does not matter here in particular, since it checks out for square matrices

# ? Jul 3, 2016 01:36

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

we did it

the head takes approx. 400 years to render with my slow calculations lol but here's a cube viewed from (1, 1, 5)!!! i'm a genius

# ? Jul 3, 2016 04:00

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Luigi Thirty posted:

we did it

the head takes approx. 400 years to render with my slow calculations lol but here's a cube viewed from (1, 1, 5)!!! i'm a genius

all is left are a few generic textures for the cube, and ill start the wiki

# ? Jul 3, 2016 04:37

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

i use vs 2015 enterprise.

# ? Jul 3, 2016 05:21

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Soricidus posted:

loving hell if eclipse decides I wanted to import java.awt.List not java.util.List one more time I swear I will hunt down the person responsible

when in the history of programming has anyone ever wanted to import java.awt.List

like there's even a <Butts> right after it, eclipse, you know java.awt.List isn't generic, why the gently caress are you choosing the possible import that immediately leads to a compile error instead of the one that leads to a successful compilation

intellij has code completion on ctrl-space, and it will just suggest loving anything, it also has "smart completion" on shift-ctrl-space that seems to suggest the correct thing every time.

# ? Jul 3, 2016 06:59

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

why did i have to poke my nose into my html parser. of course the spec has changed pointlessly. <menuitem> works like <option> now u guys. countless lives presumably saved as exactly nobody implements this latest irrelevancy

if node is in the special category then jump to the part of the adoption agency algorithm labelled done but don't forget to reconstruct the list of active formatting elements and furthermore :suicide:

also somebody started another html parser in objc for some reason? you'd think one reinvented wheel was enough for this dying language

anyway 1.0 :toot:

# ? Jul 3, 2016 07:01

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Shaggar posted:

emacs is not an ide. emacs is a text editor

unironically agreeing with Shaggar

even the Lisp Machine folks didn't consider Zmacs an IDE, just an extensible editor

# ? Jul 3, 2016 09:04

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

emacs is an ide by any reasonable definition of an ide.

no it's not

there are IDEs built on top of emacs, but out of the box emacs�like vi and Atom and Visual Studio Code and BBEdit�is just an editor

once you load up a system that adds a notion of projects and builds and so on, then that combination might make an IDE, but emacs alone isn't even an elisp IDE out of the box

# ? Jul 3, 2016 09:07

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

Wheany posted:

intellij has code completion on ctrl-space, and it will just suggest loving anything, it also has "smart completion" on shift-ctrl-space that seems to suggest the correct thing every time.

intellij also lets you exclude classes from auto-import

Something designed by people paid to design it posted:

The list of imports suggested by IntelliJ IDEA can be sometimes far too wide, and can include the classes you don't actually need. For example, some of the class names in your project can match the names of internal SDK or unrelated library classes.

IntelliJ IDEA lets you configure the classes to be excluded from import assistance and code completion, thus helping avoid unintentional use of the wrong classes. Besides that, IntelliJ IDEA provides an intention action that allows you to exclude unnecessary classes on-the-fly.

These settings apply to code completion as well. The classes and packages specified as the ones to be ignored by the code completion feature, will not be added to the suggestion list.

Brain Candy fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jul 3, 2016

# ? Jul 3, 2016 12:27

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

a nice writeup by peter norvig on the travelling salesman problem. very readable for truly awful programmers like myself

# ? Jul 3, 2016 12:33

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Brain Candy posted:

intellij also lets you exclude classes from auto-import

yeah, eclipse lets you janitor the autocomplete system too, but it should not be necessary to manually edit lists to tell the autocomplete system things it should be able to figure out for itself, such as "this project imports class A in most of its code units already, while it does not so much as touch anything in the same namespace as class B, and furthermore we know that the method on the right-hand side of this assignment returns a value of class A. hmmmmm....., perhaps I should put class A in front of class B in the autocomplete list?"

"nah, let's just keep it alphabetical, they're bound to use awt one day" -- eclipse

# ? Jul 3, 2016 14:15

quiggy: Aug 7, 2010; [in Russian] Oof.

Soricidus posted:

this is not one of the approved opinions, comrade

sorry, vim is the best text editor ever made and emacs is putrid poo poo that fell out of a prolapsed anus

# ? Jul 3, 2016 14:57

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

Soricidus posted:

"nah, let's just keep it alphabetical, they're bound to use awt one day" -- eclipse

janitoring the intellij list is basically pressing a key-combo inside the suggestion box to say 'wtf is this, get this crap outta here'

what i'm actually saiyan is stop using eclipse

# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:07

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

intellij is good. watch a minute of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8wRC7Qkcb8&t=7m44s

you don't need to use a mouse

# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:16

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

pretty sure shaggar said intellij was garbage, do you seriously expect me to believe that shaggar was wrong?!

# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:28

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Soricidus posted:

pretty sure shaggar said intellij was garbage, do you seriously expect me to believe that shaggar was wrong?!

b-but it runs on windows

# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:29

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Soricidus posted:

yeah, eclipse lets you janitor the autocomplete system too, but it should not be necessary to manually edit lists to tell the autocomplete system things it should be able to figure out for itself, such as "this project imports class A in most of its code units already, while it does not so much as touch anything in the same namespace as class B, and furthermore we know that the method on the right-hand side of this assignment returns a value of class A. hmmmmm....., perhaps I should put class A in front of class B in the autocomplete list?"

"nah, let's just keep it alphabetical, they're bound to use awt one day" -- eclipse

sometimes intellij does this really stupid poo poo:
Str[ctrl-space]
some.package.i.dont.remember.xml.String

then again, sometimes it does this:

code:

public class Whatever {
	public static final String SOME_CONSTANT = "Qqqqqq, qqq qqq"

	public static final Str[ctrl-space]
	// gets autocompleted to
	public static final java.lang.String
}

why??? why would you ever????

# ? Jul 3, 2016 15:36

Brain Candy: May 18, 2006

Wheany posted:

code:

public class Whatever {
	public static final String SOME_CONSTANT = "Qqqqqq, qqq qqq"

	public static final Str[ctrl-space]
	// gets autocompleted to
	public static final java.lang.String
}

why??? why would you ever????

this is in the java code style, uncheck 'use fully qualified class names'. i dunno why its on by default

# ? Jul 3, 2016 16:10

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Soricidus posted:

yeah, eclipse lets you janitor the autocomplete system too, but it should not be necessary to manually edit lists to tell the autocomplete system things it should be able to figure out for itself, such as "this project imports class A in most of its code units already, while it does not so much as touch anything in the same namespace as class B, and furthermore we know that the method on the right-hand side of this assignment returns a value of class A. hmmmmm....., perhaps I should put class A in front of class B in the autocomplete list?"

"nah, let's just keep it alphabetical, they're bound to use awt one day" -- eclipse

Meanwhile, Ctrl-Shift-O tends to get it right, somehow. You just have to ignore the build errors (and lack of autocompletion inside type parameters) until you organize dem imports.

# ? Jul 3, 2016 16:34

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

I don't understand why visual studio doesn't have a quick action to add imports like the Java ides

# ? Jul 3, 2016 17:47

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# ? May 12, 2024 13:11

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

its an option when autocompleting same as in eclipse.

# ? Jul 3, 2016 18:29

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