Legdiian posted:

He did it for YouTube.

EX250 Type R posted:

failure to yieled to someone within their own legal lane with the legal right is not the fault of the person following the traffic law.

To sit there and lay blame on the biker because "Well he could have just done...." is loving stupid because he had the legal right of way and the woman should have yielded, period.

Linedance posted:

You need to get something through your head if you're planning on having a long, enjoyable future as a motorcyclist, free from grievous injury and death. It doesn't loving matter how in the right you are if you're mangled in the wheel well of a semi or in the hospital on life support. Stop crying foul victim blaming and start asking yourself what could be done in that situation to avoid, mitigate risk, etc. There's no moral high ground in the back of an ambulance.

Chichevache posted:

I don't think anyone here disagrees with "getting hit by cars is bad, and trying to not get hit is good".

And I don't think that point does anything to change our opinion that the woman's driving was lovely and it is funny and good that she was ticketed.

Linedance posted:

You're right about that. I just get sick of every time there's a video of some vlogger raging about bad drivers posted, and people suggest that maybe he might not need to rage so hard if he took a few preventative measures, people jump in and cry victim blaming for even suggesting such heresy.

JB50 posted:

Even not being directly behind a truck is no guarantee:

Linedance posted:

You need to get something through your head if you're planning on having a long, enjoyable future as a motorcyclist, free from grievous injury and death. It doesn't loving matter how in the right you are if you're mangled in the wheel well of a semi or in the hospital on life support. Stop crying foul victim blaming and start asking yourself what could be done in that situation to avoid, mitigate risk, etc. There's no moral high ground in the back of an ambulance.

EX250 Type R posted:

If we all know that motorcycles will lose to cars 100% of the time then why even allow them to have the legal right of way? Why not obligate motorcycles to yield to cars 100% of the time so every time an inattentive driver hits someone you can just blame the motorcyclist for not doing things differently instead of the car driver for ya know not following the law.

I was hit by an inattentive driver. I saw the car long in advance. Should I have just stopped in the middle of the road and yielded my right of way to let the car pull out of the driveway?

Linedance posted:

This might not make sense to you, but you've got to treat that poo poo like an air crash investigation. It's not Monday morning quarterbacking. Someone actually pulled out from a driveway and hit you. So you (and if you posted footage of it on YouTube, everyone else as well) should look at controllable variables like your speed, lane position, awareness of escape routes, etc., add your new knowledge of what an idiot pulling out without looking actually looks like, so that when the exact same thing happens six months from now, you don't just let it happen and say "gosh there's literally nothing I could have done to prevent, avoid, or mitigate that. Again".
Stopping in the road and yielding your right of way is certainly one of your options and needs to be considered. There may be better ones. Or was getting hit the highlight of your day and you got a huge court settlement and live in a mansion now with hundreds of motorcycles, and the lesson you learned was poo poo that was a lot of long term gain for a bit of short term pain, imma just let this fucker back into me again?

EX250 Type R posted:

If we all know that motorcycles will lose to cars 100% of the time then why even allow them to have the legal right of way? Why not obligate motorcycles to yield to cars 100% of the time so every time an inattentive driver hits someone you can just blame the motorcyclist for not doing things differently instead of the car driver for ya know not following the law.

I was hit by an inattentive driver. I saw the car long in advance. Should I have just stopped in the middle of the road and yielded my right of way to let the car pull out of the driveway?

EX250 Type R posted:

I was on a straight road, there was an on coming car he was waiting for that was roughly equal distance from him as I was on the opposite side. I saw the situation, I slowed down and watched, but short of stopping in the middle of the road and yielding my right of way, there was nothing else to do. It was my lane, I owned it, I had the right of way and he had no business entering it. I explained that to him in no uncertain terms and I think he will be forever cognizant of motorcycles because of our conversation.

Renaissance Robot posted:

FYI: you can do that. That's a thing you can do. What's more important to you, protecting your pride by demanding people honour the sovereign space around your vehicle, or not getting hit?

EX250 Type R posted:

so it goes right back to why allow motorcycles to even have the right of way in the first place if cars arent going to be held responsible for violating the law

Retarded Pimp posted:

If those are my choices, I'd rather yield & live.

edit
There's two sets of laws out there, the one on the books and the law of the lug nuts, whoever has the most wins the right of weight.

Coredump posted:

So one time this guy calls a chinese take-out place and puts in an order. Then he puts them on hold and calls up a 2nd chinese place and puts them on confernce. He then gets chinese place no. 1 to repeat the order and the two chinese places go back and forth thinking one is ordering from the other. One day I wanna figure out how to do that, but between CA and some sjw's about personal responsibility and victim blaming and watch the train wreck. Especially if I can implement a word filter that removes references to helmets, gear, "scantily", etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITgkQIp6ABM

Coredump posted:

Really this whole line of arguing of "yield to live" while is good advice doesn't really apply to the merge guy video. He wasn't going to get splattered, they were doing like 10 mph.

EX250 Type R posted:

holy poo poo the cognitive dissonance

a motorcycle can either have the right of way or yield, it cannot do both at once. You dont see the contradiction in demanding that motorcycles yield their legal right of way because cars are bigger in one sentence and then saying motorcycles yielding the right of way would cause accidents right after?

clutchpuck posted:

That's not the point. The point is sometimes it's better to be smart than right.

Apparently you don't even get the point of right of way so the former might be a stretch.

EX250 Type R posted:

The point is that making GBS threads on motorcyclists that have to legal right to occupy their space for not yielding to cars defeats the purpose of allowing motorcyclists to own the space they occupy. If you want to play by the rules of third world countries where the biggest vehicle gets the road then codify it into law, otherwise, inattentive drivers can get hosed and so can the people that defend them.

Chichevache posted:

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Z3n posted:

MetaJew posted:

It seems like all of these moto-vlogging SJWs have a tremendous amount of time on their hands.

advion posted:

A few of the more popular ones do it as their main 'job' now don't they? Sigh must be nice.

EX250 Type R posted:

so it goes right back to why allow motorcycles to even have the right of way in the first place if cars arent going to be held responsible for violating the law

advion posted:

I don't either but if I could make a living playing games and streaming it for six hours a day or motovlogging and spewing bullshit I would. I mean I suppose I can I just don't want to try.