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Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

smg77 posted:

If President Hillary goes on an archaeological expedition and discovers the lost city of Atlantis would you love her?

According to legends, Atlantis was destroyed because of the corruption and greed of its inhabitants. Therefore, I find it probable that she already knows where it is and has a mansion there.

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Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

Error 404 posted:

You went to reddit on purpose

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Dalael posted:

According to legends, Atlantis was destroyed because of the corruption and greed of its inhabitants. Therefore, I find it probable that she already knows where it is and has a mansion there.

legends doesn't mean fanfic dude

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Tatum Girlparts posted:

legends doesn't mean fanfic dude

According to legends, you once were a good poster.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Error 404 posted:

You went to reddit on purpose

Reddit has a number of funny things in it.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Bip Roberts posted:

Reddit has a number of funny things in it.

Error 404 posted:



You went to reddit on purpose

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx

Dalael posted:

I think the problem lies in the fact that regardless of what evidence would be presented, people like you would just shrug it off even if it was clear proof.
Pretty much the same way you shrug off all the crap :shillary: has done because you're fearful of what Trump might do.

I know your Canadian upbringing keeps you from comprehending anything a free people might choose to do, but a bunch of people are really excited about voting for Hillary regardless of the opposition candidate.

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Peztopiary posted:

I know your Canadian upbringing keeps you from comprehending anything a free people might choose to do, but a bunch of people are really excited about voting for Hillary regardless of the opposition candidate.
Much like Mitt Romney is excited for Caffeine Free Diet Dr Pepper.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
This is the latest s4p smoking gun:

https://m.facebook.com/ElectionJusticeUSA/posts/910100779116616

Some barely audible video of some unhinged dude asking a San Diego poll counter about using white-out on ballots?

But like was said earlier in the thread, no one is on s4p anymore and the few that are there are are trolls or sad sacks who've given up hope.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

ThndrShk2k posted:

According to legends, you once were a good poster.

well yea like most legends this came from poorly passed down oral history and straight up myth I assume.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!

XyrlocShammypants posted:

Went to the Sanders for President reddit page, the beginning of the end for sure. Typical "closing in on California" chem-trails stuff, but basically no posts are over even 50 replies. It's done, the movement, is kaput.

Thank god these progressives that want a government ruled by and for the people got their hopes crushed. I'm so loving glad that we get to choose between an obviously shady and corrupt millionaire neoliberal and an angry billionaire freeper.

That dirty commie and his horrible ideas should be crushed under the boots of globalism so that we can all fall faster into neo feudal corporate debt slavery.

Thank god Hillary will help shepherd us into the new Era of absolutely zero change.



seriously what the gently caress kind of a horrible human being is GLAD that the policy proposals Bernie was supporting got defeated? Like...they are specifically catered to BENEFIT about 99% of the general population.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
socialism isn't the answer you loving idiot

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
The kind who know they would bankrupt the country for one but whatever

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
soviet union looks great on paper
if we wen't whole hog into senile sanders stupid 'revolution' it would be terrible

quote:

When Bernie Sanders supporters hear the word "socialism," they think about higher taxes for the rich, campaign finance reform and a single-payer health-care system rivaling those found in Scandinavia.

When Garry Kasparov, the legendary chess grandmaster from Russia, hears the same word, a very different thought comes to his mind.

"Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there," he wrote in a Facebook post that went viral. "In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism."

"Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely," he added. "But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd."

[Larry David returns to SNL, rips into Bernie Sanders supporters]

The Soviet Union had been dissolved for seven years by the time the youngest voters in this year's U.S. presidential election were born. Many Americans — particularly younger ones — no longer associate the word "socialism" with the barren grocery aisles, rampant corruption and concrete walls separating East from West. For them, "Democratic socialism" is the 2016 version of "hope and change."

"A word that their elders saw as a slur," The Post's David Weigel and David A. Fahrenthold wrote last year, has "become a blank, open for Sanders to define."

Sanders, in his effort to define it, has attempted to associate the term with a deeply held American virtue: fairness.

“When I use the word socialist – and I know some people aren’t comfortable about it — I’m saying that it is imperative,” Sanders said in November, according to Time, that we “create a government that works for all and not just the few.”

“I don’t believe government should own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a fair deal,” he added.

The Sanders campaign has not responded to multiple requests from The Post seeking comment about Kasparov's harsh critique.

No matter how the word is used, Kasparov argued in a subsequent Daily Beast editorial, the chess genius wants no part of it.

"Hey, Bernie, Don’t Lecture Me About Socialism. I Lived Through It," the editorial is headlined.

Kasparov credits capitalism for enhancing the economic prospects of billions around the world during the 2oth century and socialism for impoverishing billions more.

"Of course," he wrote, "Senator Sanders does not want to turn America into a totalitarian state like the one I grew up in. But it’s a valuable example of the inevitable failure of a state-run economy and distribution system. (Check in on Venezuela for a more recent example.) Once you give power to the government it is nearly impossible to get it back, and it will be used in ways you cannot expect."

As Kasparov freely admits, he is a rare beneficiary of the economic system he despises. The Soviet government, as Kasparov told Bill Kristol during a lengthy interview last month, channeled massive state resources into cultivating promising young talents like him.

Had he not been blessed with an extraordinary chess mind, or had he been born in the United States, his talent may have gone unnoticed.

"...There were very few options available for talented kids – business was not an option, politics was not an option, the law was not an option, and every parent tried to look for some opportunities for their kids, and chess was one of them," Kasparov, who grew up in Baku, Azerbaijan, and was training in a prestigious chess academy by age 10, said in his interview with Kristol.

"Music, ballet, some kind of science, sports in general, so that’s why Soviet authorities could, you know, could channel these huge mass of potential talented kids into these chess network and finding [Anatoly] Karpov, Kasparov, and other great players, you know, was not that difficult because it was simply about big numbers," he said.

Kasparov's mistrust of the state began to deepen when he was a teenager and was able to travel abroad for matches. Outside the confines of his home country, he said, he was exposed to foreign people, ideas and media. Most importantly, he said, he was able to buy books that weren't available back home.

But Kasparov, like die-hard communist members of his family, still clung to the notion that the nation's economic challenges were the result of poorly implemented policies, not a larger indictment of the system itself. Despite the overwhelming evidence before him, Kasparov said it took time for him to realize that for many, the game was fixed.

"Only mid-'80s I could realize it was nothing to do with good Lenin or bad Stalin and a bad implementation — it’s gulag, concentration camps, the purges, famine, and it’s suppression of all sorts of freedom," he said. "It was inevitable. It’s, you know, no matter how you play these moves, it will end up with the same result. But it took some time."

Almost 30 years later, Kasparov is an advocate of free-market capitalism — one who argues that competitive failure is a crucial component of creativity and innovation.

"A centrally planned economy cannot imitate this engine of creative destruction because you cannot plan for failure," he wrote in the Daily Beast. "You cannot predestine which two college dropouts in a garage will produce the next Apple."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-and-socialism/

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
i am glad sanders failed and you p4s people hosed off

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

Thank god these progressives that want a government ruled by and for the people got their hopes crushed. I'm so loving glad that we get to choose between an obviously shady and corrupt millionaire neoliberal and an angry billionaire freeper.

That dirty commie and his horrible ideas should be crushed under the boots of globalism so that we can all fall faster into neo feudal corporate debt slavery.

Thank god Hillary will help shepherd us into the new Era of absolutely zero change.



seriously what the gently caress kind of a horrible human being is GLAD that the policy proposals Bernie was supporting got defeated? Like...they are specifically catered to BENEFIT about 99% of the general population.

The fishmechs of the world stand to profit in some way from a Clinton presidency

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!

Baloogan posted:

socialism isn't the answer you loving idiot

Lol calling Bernie proposals "socialism" like it's the USSR or some poo poo... not like we haven't already had tax rates far higher to pay for poo poo in the past. Not like every other NOT socialist country in the world doesn't garuntee healthcare.


Go back to scuba diving in sewers or whatever it is that you do.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
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pathetic little tramp posted:

The kind who know they would bankrupt the country for one but whatever

Yep not like Clinton won't just keep adding more debt to the country in order to prevent the only people in the country who actually have money (her and the rest of her 1% buddies) from being taxed. That's totally sustainable.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
come to the wacky LF successor, where instead of jokes we just repost reddit threads (you wont BELIEVE what this Sanders supporter posted in /showerthoughts!)

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
here i am liveposting from outside a berniebaby's house, and after a few minutes of photo recon what do I find but...of course, an ELECTRIC LAWNMOWER

once again the barnabybros display their total indifference to mother earth and the hispanic community

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

Lol calling Bernie proposals "socialism" like it's the USSR or some poo poo... not like we haven't already had tax rates far higher to pay for poo poo in the past. Not like every other NOT socialist country in the world doesn't garuntee healthcare.


Go back to scuba diving in sewers or whatever it is that you do.

go cry and oppress a scientest wearing a funny shirt


sorry about your safe space


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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Neurolimal posted:

here i am liveposting from outside a berniebaby's house, and after a few minutes of photo recon what do I find but...of course, an ELECTRIC LAWNMOWER

once again the barnabybros display their total indifference to mother earth and the hispanic community

:yikes:

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

Thank god these progressives that want a government ruled by and for the people got their hopes crushed. I'm so loving glad that we get to choose between an obviously shady and corrupt millionaire neoliberal and an angry billionaire freeper.

That dirty commie and his horrible ideas should be crushed under the boots of globalism so that we can all fall faster into neo feudal corporate debt slavery.

Thank god Hillary will help shepherd us into the new Era of absolutely zero change.



seriously what the gently caress kind of a horrible human being is GLAD that the policy proposals Bernie was supporting got defeated? Like...they are specifically catered to BENEFIT about 99% of the general population.

Mostly it's those of us who enjoy policy proposals that will succeed without requiring a decade of 5% annual growth. It's also those of us who like healthcare reform that is supported by analysis that goes deeper than "the details very quickly get very messy". Past that, it's those of us who aren't pantswettingly terrified of Nuclear Power and those of us who recognize the lifechanging benefits GMO crops have provided globally.

Take heart, though. The Bernman's run is a good sign for progressives... if Bernie got this far on rhetoric, imagine how far someone can go if they combine rhetoric with any semblance of a detailed policy platform!

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Geoff Peterson posted:


Take heart, though. The Bernman's run is a good sign for progressives... if Bernie got this far on rhetoric, imagine how far someone can go if they combine rhetoric with any semblance of a detailed policy platform!

only reason sanders got this far is because his platform was unicorn farts

if it were better defined he wouldn't have gotten off the ground

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Sanders can't get most of his platform into the democratic convention, but he'll definitely get it through congress, just you watch

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

Baloogan posted:

only reason sanders got this far is because his platform was unicorn farts

if it were better defined he wouldn't have gotten off the ground

Nah, Hillary thoroughly cleared the field (and doesn't get enough credit for how rare this is) but is disliked enough that a second candidate was inevitable. When it came down to Sanders and O'Malley (Sorry Webb, Sorry Fishmech), it was always going to wind up at Bernie. Baltimore sparking back up merely guaranteed that.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Geoff Peterson posted:

Nah, Hillary thoroughly cleared the field (and doesn't get enough credit for how rare this is) but is disliked enough that a second candidate was inevitable. When it came down to Sanders and O'Malley (Sorry Webb, Sorry Fishmech), it was always going to wind up at Bernie. Baltimore sparking back up merely guaranteed that.

id rather support webb than trump

when webb said on the debate stage that the proudest enemy he had was a dead viet cong that he killed i was totally onboard

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
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XyrlocShammypants posted:

Sanders can't get most of his platform into the democratic convention, but he'll definitely get it through congress, just you watch

Same can be said about Clinton... if you honestly think that she will be able to accomplish any more than Bernie would with the same congress you are delusional.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRGiB-3llQ

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
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There's always trump supporters...

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

that kasparov quote is proof boomers who took advantage of government largesse then spent their adult lives complaining about and dismantling it isn't a uniquely american phenomenon

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
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Baloogan posted:

sorry about your safe space

Nowhere's safe :tinfoil:

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

Same can be said about Clinton... if you honestly think that she will be able to accomplish any more than Bernie would with the same congress you are delusional.

Hillary actually knows most of her legislation is probably going nowhere and probably has some clue how to leverage it.

maker
Jun 1, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Baloogan posted:

soviet union looks great on paper
if we wen't whole hog into senile sanders stupid 'revolution' it would be terrible

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-and-socialism/
Lol this dumbass thinks the Soviet Union was a good representation of socialism.
Thank you for your insight and credibility oh master chess player

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

maker posted:

Lol this dumbass thinks the Soviet Union was a good representation of socialism.
Thank you for your insight and credibility oh master chess player

Whenever it gets tried, that's what happens. Nowhere is a good representation of socialism except maybe the US where we have socialised roads and police. Anything more is unaffordable and kills the motivation to succeed.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Bip Roberts posted:

Hillary actually knows most of her legislation is probably going nowhere and probably has some clue how to leverage it.

"vote this legislation thru or we'll have a sit-in over taking guns from arab people" - The Chessmaster

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Bip Roberts posted:

Hillary actually knows most of her legislation is probably going nowhere and probably has some clue how to leverage it.

By neutering it before it even goes to the table.


I mean pre-compromising.

pathetic little tramp posted:

Whenever it gets tried, that's what happens. Nowhere is a good representation of socialism except maybe the US where we have socialised roads and police. Anything more is unaffordable and kills the motivation to succeed.
Nope.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

ThndrShk2k posted:

By neutering it before it even goes to the table.


I mean pre-compromising.

Nope.



It'll totally work this time though!

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991



capitalism will totally work this time though!

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

can you imagine....standing in lines???

*has never been to a large city*

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