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upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

James Baud posted:

If we dropped delivery to every second business day, Canada Post could eliminate around 20,000 carrier positions across the country and save well over a billion dollars per year. Virtually nobody (else) would even notice.

When you eliminate those twenty-thousand jobs, that's twenty thousand people not paying into the pension plan...

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James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
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James Baud fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Aug 26, 2018

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

Eight years between restructures. It's not cheap either.

vincentpricesboner
Sep 3, 2006

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Just saw this bad boy on reddit. This is the face of oppression, the gyrating, sexy hips and cute facial hair of oppression.

Guys almost a dead ringer for 40 something Mulcair too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhVnDIpBvTE

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
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James Baud fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Aug 26, 2018

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

The fact that this is once again the managements doing rather than the workers should be all the prompting the Trudeau gov should need to depose the loving worthless trash Harper appointed but the Liberals have so far been all to keen to continue with conservative poo poo on other labour policy stuff so I won't hold my breath.

Given the communications that have been coming from Canada Post since the very beginning, there is not a shred of doubt in my mind that this has been management's plan all along and that there was never any hope whatsoever of a resolution and new contract without a service disruption aimed solely at destroying the CUPW and its members.

The fact that Canada Post itself could end up as collateral damage seems entirely irrelevant to the Harper-era political appointees running the place. Of course, the record indicates that, for them and their ilk, such trifling things as the public interest have never gotten in the way of personal enrichment or a spot of union-busting. Trudeau should have jettisoned the lot of them at his first opportunity.

They will likely get away with it, too, because the average Canadian seems to have essentially no understanding of labour negotiations. I am not holding my breath for the corporate media to deliver a cogent explanation.

David Corbett fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jul 5, 2016

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006
Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren.

David Corbett posted:

Trudeau should have jettisoned the lot of them at his first opportunity.

The government has already asked Chopra to step aside; it doesn't appear that they have the power to fire him.

This sounds particularly ominous:

"CBC posted:

Canada Post said the 72-hour notice does not necessarily mean it will shut down on Friday.

Rather, it said, the measure would allow it "take measures that are necessary to respond to the changing business reality."

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015


Wrong guy to ask. I only deliver mail to about six square blocks and the rest of my day is msc (courier) work with business pick-ups and outlet runs. My day and a typical letter carriers day aren't really similar so I don't have their issues.

https://canadasmodernpost.wordpress.com/2011/02/13/the-math-behind-a-letter-carrier-route/

Maybe that'll answer some questions you have.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Every corporate policy Canada Post has regarding its workers is designed to reduce the number of unionized employees, because all they want to do right now is smash CUPW. The lie that the postal workers were on strike in 2011, the Action Plan, all of it was Deepak Chopra taking orders from the Harper government to do these things. The CMB conversion stopped the very day after the Conservatives lost the election - all the proof you need, really.

I spent 5 years working in their outsourced call centre, and holy gently caress does Canada Post want to bail on their pension responsibilities. Just remember - in 2013 when they released the Action Plan, ostensibly because they were losing money (a lie), Deepak Chopra gave himself a $30,000 bonus.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Canada Post has an absurdly large unfunded pension liability and it's going to be bad when they fail.

Guy DeBorgore
Apr 6, 1994

Catnip is the opiate of the masses
Soiled Meat
Looks like it's that time of year again, the year when our nation comes together to point at a group of highly-visible public servants and collectively say,

"they make $X0 000 a year?! that's ridiculous! tell 'em to get a real job!"

At least it's not the teachers this time.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Hal_2005 posted:

Please find me one country where an increase in taxation led to a higher purchasing power since 1981. Go on, impress me. Or call me names while I laugh at you, that amuses me just as well.

As for the poster above who argued for the USA being a product of its tax base: Please review the US tax code and the effective corporate tax rate, you US example fails and I'm keen to see if any of you can understand why. If you actually knew what the gently caress you were trying to strawman, you would have came across the "Stamp Tax" and the "Reagan Tax Incentives", which would automatically invalidate your base case. It led to something called the Buyout Binge, twice I may add. But you knew that before posting without researching, right? Twit.


(Hint: If you are struggling to find out why lower taxation improves labor wealth and productivity it has something to do with capital gains & R&D Credits....)

guys i'm being insulted by a third rate junior analyst working in the worlds most important banking center: calgary

It's obvious you're worthless because while sovereign bond yields are hiring record lows your on the internet dishing out sick burns

Go back to snowballing diluent with Andrew Leach shithead

namaste friends fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jul 5, 2016

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
I love rurals.

quote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/sudbury-man-punches-black-bear-1.3663954

Soon the bear was in front of Nelson and up on hind legs.

"I had no rocks, no sticks," he said, but he did have a lot of boxing practice.

Nelson tried to swing at the bear but missed, hitting it in the teeth. The bear hit back, scratching Nelson across the chest and face.

"I knew it would swing first with its left but it would really come with its right, because most bears are right-handed," Nelson said.

So Nelson swung a second time.

"I had the perfect shot to take. I did an underhand and hit it right in the snout."

“You want to make sure if you punch a bear that you’re hitting it straight in its snout. That's really the only thing you have on a bear that will really startle it"

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

namaste faggots posted:

guys i'm being insulted by a third rate junior analyst working in the worlds most important banking center: calgary

It's obvious you're worthless because while sovereign bond yields are hiring record lows your on the internet dishing out sick burns

Go back to snowballing diluent with Andrew Leach shithead

Someone who decided to cite "Corelle" and Lotus as major companies or product achievements in Canada:

Hal_2005 posted:

I too laughed at Nortel. Thread has def taken a turn into the surreal. Must be those ultra low rates on home loans goons must be tripping over themselves to take out to buy that 2-bed in Markham.

Can you remember any premier made in Canada products similar to BMW, Iphone or Google

Sure
- Pulse Seismic
- Medtronic DES stimulator
- Open Text
- ATI
- Corelle (and AIM instant messenger)
- Lotus 1-2-3
- Blackberry and SSH server systems
- Magellan Aerospace and half of the SpaceX parts
- Magna automotives, makers of nearly 50% of your mincome second hand Honda and GM poo poo-can compact.
- CGI, proud maker of 80% of the world's internet systems for forward facing gov & mainframes
- Precision drilling; most advanced oil rigs on the planet, no joke.
- Bioware
- Miranda
- Palantir (the master algos were built at Waterloo)
- padd drilling; google it.
- ganong
- cott beverage
- highliner fish products
- Ford escape and about 80% of Ford's R&D programs dating back to the Shelby push at Windsor special projects, including AWD and disc brakes
- Hatch engineering, the only company who you legitimately call when Bechtel or Haliburton fucks something up
- SNC
- lululemmon
- Canaccord
- Scotiabank, largest bank in Latin America by deposits and second largest bank in the entire latinos including mexico
- TD bank, second largest bank now in the US behind JP Morgan
- Manulife, one of the worlds largest underwriters of global risk next to Lloyds of London
- Power corp. If you dont know who the hell these guys are, I cant help you
- McCain french fries; legitimate good PEI oligarchs.
- Boardwalk. Again, if you dont know a gently caress about the largest commercial property manager in the world, I wonder how qualified you are to even post.
- Baurer
- Maple Leaf Foods
- Rexall
- Aliment Couche Tard; the largest kiosk and convenience store owner by footprint next to CVS Healthcare (yes, bigger than 7/11 now you sperglord)
- Bombardier: proud maker of useless make work projects for the redneck trash of Quebec, and giving Casse de Depot grey hairs since 1998. Worst trust fund kiddies on the planet, and that's including Oracle's estate fund.
- Saputo. Largest dairy maker in the public stock world. You cheese eating neckbeards literally consume 3 of their products every day, and the fact you have no clue they even exist is both the funniest thing I have read all week, and the most pathetic.
- Tim Hortons. You laugh, but then again, so did the shareholders who tendered their shares of Burgerking. More indians know what the hell a double double is according to the last trade mission than who barack obama was. Think on that while working your mincome job at Canadian Tire tomorrow.
- Globe & Mail. You laugh at this one, but nearly every editor from John at The Economist to half of Gawker got their start in that shithole. In journalism, Canadian free press and the publishing houses that are now Southham (old Hollinger) are tier one training centers & bull pens for aspiring editors and journalists.
- CP Rail. Want to know who literally moves 40% of the USA finished goods? from your fleshlight to the mountain dew you purchased at wallmart last week? A fat sperglord named Hunter accepts thank you pizzas. He really does too.
- Valiant Pharmaceuticals. I really hope I dont need to explain this one to goons.
- Princess Margaret Cancer Center: Your head would explode if you knew which celeb's, dictators and nearly everyone who the world would write an obituary on, if they died elect to get treated at The Princess vs. Hopkins or Harvard Med. U of T has the top program for emergency booking/100% treatment rates in the OECD for both neurology and onco.
- Onyx Corp. Gerald W. Schwartz. The joke of 'the Schwartz be with you?' its about this guy and how he and Frank Guistra nearly built Canada a entertainment industry.
- Lionsgate. Frank Guistra and Peter Brown. American Psycho is so close to 1980's mining industry reality, your head would again, explode.
- Barrack. Peter Munk.
- The NHL. You laugh about this one, but there is only 2 profitable sports in the world, hockey and F1. While total attendance is way behind FIFA and NBA viewership, a NHL franchise stake is one of the most coveted and lucrative deals in sports finance, with exception to the recent tech bubble bidding up of NBA stakes for marquee teams like the Clippers.


Now lets get to the oft hated energy sector:

- Encana. Second largest natural gas producer in North America, 4th largest natural gas entity in the world. Yes, neckbeard thats 1 behind the much feared Gazprom.
- Cenovus, also known as the brains behind ConocoPhillips.
- Imperial Oil. Straight up known in Exxon Mobil as the training center for Exxon CEO's.
- Calfrac, next to Halliburton the largest and most regarded frac sand manager/completions specialist in the world. Yes, the saudi family personally asks them to come fix their wells for them, along with Precision Drilling. On a first name basis after Halliburton botched Gwar in 2005.
- Paramount Conglomerate.
- CNQ. Because Koch doesn't drill 50% of the US's global crude imports and that crude has to come from somewhere. Ditto all those plastic keyboard parts filled with cheetos dust.
- BP Canada. Now known as that piece of a joke called Talisman. Once upon a time, known as the place which discovered about 38% of the worlds hydrocarbons since 1985. Yes this includes most of the North Sea (Buzzard), the Moray Firth, lake Chad, Ethiopia's Rift basin, the Yemeni Grabbens, and pretty much the entire Java/Indochina basin (now known as Petronas when they nationalized it).
- Niko Exploration. Before Doc ran it into the ground, it was one of the largest discoveries of natural gas in Indian history, it also bailed out the richest family in India, twice. The current Indian "miracle"? due to cheap energy? Thank a furniture salesman from Estavan and a Croatian-Canadian geologist who owed him on a land deal.
- Waterous/Tristone/First Energy. Fun Fact, over 60% of the worlds Asset and Divestiture deals, where oil companies trade their land and production like you trade counterstrike skins? two groups of 28 nerds do that. That may not seem too impressive to your little nerdy worldview, but lets think about that for a moment. Every deal, from Talisman's sale to Repsol to the sale of a natural gas compressor likely went through that office, go get audited and sealed, and valued by every company in the world. Including Citgo.
- Sproule / GLJ Associates: Like the world A&D clearing house, Canada is like Zurich for oil reserve auditing. Yes, even the world bank, when they need to be 100% sure Russia or Argentina is not cooking their reserve books before they offer a bail out package, they call up Calgary. Want to know why Canada seems to punch above its weight in the G7? Its because when it comes to the worlds arguably most important audit, how much energy do you have in the "tank", Canada literally is the auditors seal.

Hope that post gave you a deep drive into Canadian corporate iconic brands. If you want to learn more, I suggest getting educated. Its hard, but way easier on everyone than posting ignorant comments about Nortel. Which was a great example of everything wrong with Ontario and Ontario based liberal corporate governance. John Manley alone is proof of this.

So whenever he talks about taxation and profitability, just remember this post.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

The fact that this is once again the managements doing rather than the workers should be all the prompting the Trudeau gov should need to depose the loving worthless trash Harper appointed but the Liberals have so far been all to keen to continue with conservative poo poo on other labour policy stuff so I won't hold my breath.

They already asked him to step down but he refused.

Can they actually fire him?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I know how Thatcher and Reagan started breaking up the unions in the 80's, when did it start in Canada?

I'd like to do some volunteering for the CLC and Ottawa Labour Council but I won't be able to do much until I'm out of the Army. I'd tell my PSO that's my second career choice but I don't know how to start making those connections.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Ugh we're going to be stuck with Chopra until 2021 with that piece of poo poo picking up $10million in base compensation.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

OSI bean dip posted:

Someone who decided to cite "Corelle" and Lotus as major companies or product achievements in Canada:


So whenever he talks about taxation and profitability, just remember this post.

lmao if you think CP Rail is a shining example of a Canadian company and ignore the fact that CN is twice a big and has far more reach into the US.

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

DariusLikewise posted:

lmao if you think CP Rail is a shining example of a Canadian company and ignore the fact that CN is twice a big and has far more reach into the US.

This is why we're giving Hal poo poo here because he does know absolutely nothing. It's more likely he's on disability than working in some third-rate tower on 9th Ave SW.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



SNC, Bomarbdier, Canadian banks and insurers are all companies that ought to be nationalized after gutting the management (literally in the case of the criminals at SNC).

Energy, mining and logging companies can go up against the wall next, although I suppose they don't really need to be nationalized immediately.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/jul/05/decline-street-hockey-canada-cities-game-children

quote:

Most cities are reluctant to endorse street hockey. In Vancouver, you need a written permit. In Montreal it is mostly prohibited (except in alleyways). Ottawa allows it, but feels compelled to insist that “free flow of traffic is maintained once an adjustment in the game has been made to allow the passage of a car”. (For those of you who speak Canadian or have watched Wayne’s World, you’ll know that is the legal definition of yelling: “Car!”)

And in Toronto, arguably the nation’s biggest hockey market, the signs are explicit, even italicised for effect: Ball and hockey playing prohibited.

Even the people who defend the bylaws seem essentially baffled by them. They usually argue that the bylaws are only enforced if someone complains, and the city has done what it can to prevent injuries. But bylaws are, by nature, retroactive – they don’t stop accidents.

Regardless, according to Peter Gray, a psychologist and research professor at Boston College, there’s a much bigger problem: the very presence of a bylaw at all.

“Any laws that prohibit children from public spaces work against children’s capacities to play on their own and in their own ways,” Gray says.

and this is why bylaws aren't laws

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


drat kids wanting to play outside in this day and age

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
on the positive side, hockey is dying :unsmith:

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

eXXon posted:

SNC, Bomarbdier, Canadian banks and insurers are all companies that ought to be nationalized after gutting the management (literally in the case of the criminals at SNC).

Energy, mining and logging companies can go up against the wall next, although I suppose they don't really need to be nationalized immediately.
Canada's private companies can't R&D worth poo poo so might as well nationalize them.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Frosted Flake posted:

I know how Thatcher and Reagan started breaking up the unions in the 80's, when did it start in Canada?

I'd like to do some volunteering for the CLC and Ottawa Labour Council but I won't be able to do much until I'm out of the Army. I'd tell my PSO that's my second career choice but I don't know how to start making those connections.

The reason that Reagan and Thatcher had a mandate to go after the unions was, in part, because there had been rising labour militancy since the 1960s or in most of the developed world. After 1973 the entire postwar economic system was coming under severe strain and governments launched all kinds of improvised policy responses, some of which would be very familiar today (wage restraint, privatisation, etc) and others which are almost impossible to imagine (nationalising entire industries, imposing wage and price limits, etc.). So it's worth emphasizing that before Thatcher and Reagan there had already been attempts to reduce wages or tame the unions. Jimmy Carter, rather than Reagan, is arguably the first neoliberal president. And part of what made it possible for Thatcher to win was that her Labour predecessor, James Callaghan, lost public support in the winter of 1978-1979 due to a series of brutal labour conflicts. To pull a single illustrative statistic from wikipedia,: in Britain "In total in 1979, 29,474,000 working days were lost in industrial disputes, compared with 9,306,000 in 1978."

In Canada the tenor or relations between the federal government and it's major unions was already going south by the 1970s, as reflected by the increasing use of back-to-work legislation, and Canadian employers. However, on the whole labour relations in Canada didn't get as contentious as they had in Britain or the USA until the 1990s, and most of the really brutal struggles came from the provincial governments of that era (Ralph Klein, Mike Harris, etc.).

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

cowofwar posted:

Canada's private companies can't R&D worth poo poo so might as well nationalize them.

As soon as we nationalize them, they'll be sold off because a successor government will come and want nothing to do with it. All the employees worth keeping will then just gently caress off to the United States and build something new like what happned with the Space Shuttle.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




namaste faggots posted:

on the positive side, hockey is dying :unsmith:

It has been for about a decade. Its nothing but an exclusive boys club for rich white folks.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
https://twitter.com/AdamZHerman/status/728317545460174849

rich white idiots who give their sons dumb names

also, lol "auston"

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I'm surprised hockey is as popular as it is. You don't play it in school because what school has a hockey rink, and only the richer kids could afford all gear and "ice time" needed to actually learn the game inside some massive sports facility. There's always street hockey, but I guess that's illegal now? Good riddance.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Baronjutter posted:

I'm surprised hockey is as popular as it is. You don't play it in school because what school has a hockey rink, and only the richer kids could afford all gear and "ice time" needed to actually learn the game inside some massive sports facility. There's always street hockey, but I guess that's illegal now? Good riddance.

Look at this bad wrong opinion. Ball hockey is loving rad.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Nothing like a bunch of rich white dads, projecting their failed pro dreams on their children in the hopes they can be the next greats dad.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

DariusLikewise posted:

Nothing like a bunch of rich white dads, projecting their failed pro dreams on their children in the hopes they can be the next greats dad.

How dare these peasants. They should learn to embrace and wallow in our $30,000 "middle-class" filth.

namaste faggots posted:

https://twitter.com/AdamZHerman/status/728317545460174849

rich white idiots who give their sons dumb names

also, lol "auston"

I'm honestly reminded of DeLillo with a lot of these names. A lot of smooth, drawn-out syllables. Pleasant to the ear, inoffensive. Lots of long vowels.

I expect this trend to escalate.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

DariusLikewise posted:

Nothing like a bunch of rich white dads, projecting their failed pro dreams on their children in the hopes they can be the next greats dad.

I have to read family financial statements all the time and it's not just the rich white people spending a ridiculous amount on hockey. I've seen a single mom making like $45,000 per year spending ten grand on her son's hockey tournaments and equipment.

I've pretty much vowed that any kids I have won't be playing hockey.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Brannock posted:

How dare these peasants. They should learn to embrace and wallow in our $30,000 "middle-class" filth.

Work hard, spend tonnes of money, yell at/fight other parents and beat your kids enough and they just might be the next average NHL flame-out!

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Baronjutter posted:

I'm surprised hockey is as popular as it is. You don't play it in school because what school has a hockey rink, and only the richer kids could afford all gear and "ice time" needed to actually learn the game inside some massive sports facility. There's always street hockey, but I guess that's illegal now? Good riddance.

Soccer and basketball are more popular as a team sport than hockey for this reason. Hockey participation has been down in recent years where at one point it was something like 800,000 on an annual basis to less than 500,000 in the past few years. There's a reason why Canadian Tire went and created a charity for the purposes of thwarting this decrease.

Soccer however has almost a million registered players in various league levels--and I am happy for that because gently caress hockey.

Basketball and soccer require no extra equipment other than a field of play, some sort of net, and a ball--no equipment is needed other than athletic shoes. It costs hundreds of dollars to play hockey at a minimum.

Soccer is for all intents and purposes more a national sport than hockey.

Lain Iwakura fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jul 5, 2016

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Look at all of the bitter poors who never learned how to backwards skate.

Lacrosse would be a more popular national sport if it wasn't so drat hard to play. Having said that, ball hockey really ought to be more popular than it is. You can play on a basketball court or ice/roller rink, indoors or out. Minimal equipment is sticks and a net (preferably two), and some cheap poo poo $50 goalie set. And let's not kid ourselves, you want shin pads and socks for soccer and gloves if you're a goalie, along with some knee and/or elbow padding.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

This is why rugby is the one true sport. Some cleats, some tape and a willingness to kick people when they're down.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

namaste faggots posted:

https://twitter.com/AdamZHerman/status/728317545460174849

rich white idiots who give their sons dumb names

also, lol "auston"

Jaden, Brayden and Kaden, each spelled at least two different ways. There are no words.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
sure if you like sticking your head into another man's crotch

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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
who the gently caress names their kid after one of the most worthless 'power' 'forwards' ever to play for the habs

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