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Elyv posted:It's at least partially a homage to the former best 2 drop of all time and one of my personal favorite cards how is it anything like quirion dryad?
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stinkles1112 posted:Why would they print that in green...... I mean, Green actually had Madness cards in Odyssey (although the flavor of Madness didn't make much sense in green), including at least one creature with "Madness 0"
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Jul 6, 2016 19:43
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Angry Grimace posted:gently caress it, here's a Wild Mongrel eat your goddamn heart out: Hot drat!!
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Jul 6, 2016 19:44
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Now all they need to do is print Circular Logic. We kind of have Aquameoba with Ravenous Bloodseeker, we kind of have Wild Mongrel with this guy, we kind of have Arrogant Wurm with Incorrigible Youths and we kind of have Threshold with Delirium. 
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Jul 6, 2016 19:48
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Angry Grimace posted:
Every color had one common and one uncommon with madness in Torment, so for most of the colors they had some sort of mental thing to at least somewhat symbolize them going crazy, for red they had them be angry, and then for green they were like "gently caress it, here's a wurm busting out of the ground and a lizard sitting on a tree"
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Elyv posted:Every color had one common and one uncommon with madness in Torment, so for most of the colors they had some sort of mental thing to at least somewhat symbolize them going crazy, for red they had them be angry, and then for green they were like "gently caress it, here's a wurm busting out of the ground and a lizard sitting on a tree" Rootwallas are a symbol of death and despair or something.
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Jul 6, 2016 19:51
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TheKingofSprings posted:They will never do something because there's really not any money in it for them to do so. Wizards gives 8 foil cards to stores that hold FNMs weekly. Doing this means WotC needs to pay for the art, printing, and shipping to stores. Imagine if the ink on those cards instead said things like "Black Lotus", "Ancestral Recall", or "Volcanic Island", there were 50 per store, and they cost $25 a piece. I think WotC could easily sell at least 1,000 of each card they printed this way.
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Jul 6, 2016 19:57
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To even glimpse its terrible visage is to go insane. http://i.imgur.com/8TqJuUx.jpg
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Jul 6, 2016 19:58
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Irony Be My Shield posted:To even glimpse its terrible visage is to go insane. How can he have madness when he's just so happy 
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Jul 6, 2016 20:00
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Angry Grimace posted:gently caress it, here's a Wild Mongrel eat your goddamn heart out: Wouldn't have minded this being a color shift. None of the current madness enablers are very good/free (Bloodseeker is no Aquamoeba), and none of the madness cards are green (maybe that'll change in EDM?).
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Jul 6, 2016 20:00
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TheKingofSprings posted:How can he have madness when he's just so happy Magic illustrations are a visual medium so it's hard to tell but it's actually screaming.  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Jul 6, 2016 20:02
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I mean, Wild Mongrel's sort-of return is great and all, but the best payoff for doing it is Lightning Bolt, so
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Jul 6, 2016 20:11
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I really wish it were common so I could have Mongrel's 5-8 in my pauper decks.
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Jul 6, 2016 20:24
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Angry Grimace posted:I mean, Wild Mongrel's sort-of return is great and all, but the best payoff for doing it is Lightning Bolt, so There's also a 4/3 Arrogant Wurm with haste, but the problem there seems to be that Arrogant Wurm just isn't a particularly noteworthy thing to be doing in Standard anymore.
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Jul 6, 2016 20:26
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JerryLee posted:There's also a 4/3 Arrogant Wurm with haste, but the problem there seems to be that Arrogant Wurm just isn't a particularly noteworthy thing to be doing in Standard anymore. Eh, I think if the other madness support cards from that era were available (Circular Logic, Wonder, Deep Analysis) the Arrogant Wurms of the world would still be a good thing to be doing.
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Madmarker posted:I really wish it were common so I could have Mongrel's 5-8 in my pauper decks. Pretty sure RG Madness would be a real-ish deck in Pauper if this was the case, since the deck is currently held back by not being able to consistently have Mongrels out or needing to splash a third color of Aquamoeba. As-is I'm not sure this card is going to do a whole lot since it's in a color with no direct payoff for discard and isn't Pauper-legal. Voyager I fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Madmarker posted:I really wish it were common so I could have Mongrel's 5-8 in my pauper decks. Fortunately Reach Mongrel is a prime candidate for a rarity downshift in a future Modern Masters set, you know, six years from now?
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Guys, guys... another reliable discard outlet for Modern Dredgevine... Also get in mah cube with the Mongrel ya crazy skull snek. Thisuck fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Jul 6, 2016 20:51
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Thisuck posted:Guys, guys... a reliable discard outlet for Modern Dredgevine... Lotleth Troll already does a pretty good job for that, as does (a dredged) Stitchwing Skaab. Might still be worth it, though.
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Sigma-X posted:Lotleth Troll already does a pretty good job for that, as does (a dredged) Stitchwing Skaab. Might still be worth it, though. Troll specifies creature cards, doesn't it? I mean the trample and regenerate make up for that, but the difference in cards you can discard is notable.
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Jul 6, 2016 20:59
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Troll can't block Bird Maiden.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:01
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Most of the cards you want to discard in dredge are creatures though: Vengevine, Bloodghast, Gravecrawler, Amalgam, Grave Troll and Stinkweed Imp. Don't think it will replace it. I've moved away from Lothlet Troll though, I prefer Stitchwing Skaab because it works while it's in the graveyard.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:01
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Chaos Reveler and Nahari's Wrath makes me understand what they want Red to be now. They want you to play high CMC red cards and use stuff like N. Wrath and Sin Prodder as payoff cards. If there's a playable Red Emerge Card that would also slot into this game plan. Gruul seems potentially VERY strong. Also Modern wise Chaos Reveler seems like a pretty easy shoe in for Grixis, and it seems like a good replacement for the 2 Grim Lavamancers Burn runs in Legacy and Modern.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:02
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TheMaestroso posted:Troll specifies creature cards, doesn't it? I mean the trample and regenerate make up for that, but the difference in cards you can discard is notable. What cards are you looking to discard that aren't creatures? I don't actually play vengevine, I've had a bad UR dredge instead that just uses skaab and conflagrate, both of which are baller and work from the bin.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:03
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Wait, I thought they defeated Emrakul and saved the world? Sorin gives up way too easy.
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Entropic posted:Wait, I thought they defeated Emrakul and saved the world? He thought Ugin was gone for good. He gave up on Zendikar and went home to mope. He gives up a bunch. Angry Grimace posted:gently caress it, here's a Wild Mongrel eat your goddamn heart out: Incidentally, this is the first snake in an expert expansion since Ukud Cobra in Dragons of Tarkir, and the first in Kaseto's color identity since Kaseto himself. None in BFZ, OGW, or SOI.
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Jul 6, 2016 21:40
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 The card just so bonkers. This and reflector mage in the same standard seem really unfun to play against. Does the cast from exile effect ignore whose turn it is for sorceries? Creatures?
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Christ, I hope so. It sucks to be priced out of a format entirely because of Wizards's stupid promise to manbabies and people who can speculate on cardboard rectangles because of said promise. I can't loving wait for the witch hunt that will ensue once counterfeits get really really good
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Sickening posted:
"My Collected Company exiles your Languish" 
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Jul 6, 2016 22:48
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Thisuck posted:"My Collected Company exiles your Languish" "I'll Collected Company in response to your Collected Company, so I can exile your Collected Company before it exiles my first Collected company."
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Jul 6, 2016 23:00
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Trilas posted:"I'll Collected Company in response to your Collected Company, so I can exile your Collected Company before it exiles my first Collected company." The most smuggo of the smug.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:02
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I too am excited about wasting my Collected Company by casting it directly into a wrath.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:11
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I look forward to running a counterspell that is also a body, going to make the Coco mirrors sooo fun. Edit: Serious question, is there any reason this isn't a 4 of in Coco, it counters languish, Coco, Value creatures and flies.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I too am excited about wasting my Collected Company by casting it directly into a wrath. There will be times in this standard where it will be the correct play to Collected Company in response to Languish in hopes of hitting Spell Queller.....those will be fun games.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:19
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Stormgale posted:I look forward to running a counterspell that is also a body, going to make the Coco mirrors sooo fun. I like that you can jam Turn Aside into a UW deck to protect it from Path, Declaration, Impulse, etc.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:58
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FINALLY, a good green card, and a good U/W card.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I too am excited about wasting my Collected Company by casting it directly into a wrath. You can always fail to find, also drat Reflector Mage is opponents only.
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Jul 6, 2016 23:59
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Ah yes leaving creatures in my deck is much less of a waste than putting them in my graveyard.80s James Hetfield posted:I like that you can jam Turn Aside into a UW deck to protect it from Path, Declaration, Impulse, etc.
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You're generally not going to be casting coco into a wrath instead of post-wrath Although you could chord into a wrath
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Why so snippy, IBMS?
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