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So, very late--partly due to the thread being locked immediately after my last post--but I did go back and check the bonfires I've cleared out in NG+. Whoever said the effigy timer only applies when you're in the area, yes, that is what was confusing me. Also, I didn't realize the timer only shows up if you select the option to nullify the effigy; I thought it was meant to show up on screen somewhere when you were just resting at the bonfire. So yeah, my mistake. Everything else I said about the effigy thing does still apply. Onto more current events; I don't feel like No Man's Wharf changed all that much for SotFS, but there was one huge quality of life thing they added which I'm sure Vicas will point out when Geop gets to it in the next(ish) video. It's such a simple thing, I can't for the life of me figure out why the gently caress it wasn't in the base game. This area is also one of those rare instances where using a torch is a good idea even in the base game... I can't remember if From changed one other thing about NMW which would be related, but I suppose I'll know one way or the other next time Geop updates. I think you can pretty easily mod the base game to where torches are a necessity, if you're willing to fiddle around with some post-processing stuff, which is what I wound up doing from about the late game on through the DLC and into NG+. I definitely see where they're meant to be more of a thing in Scholar, if the dark area in FoFG didn't already make it apparent. I never realized NMW was that dark; holy poo poo.
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I will forever be grateful they looked at the torch and said 'You know maybe we shouldn't make this quite so important because it just seems really annoying.' It works fine for the occasional area like Pirate Viking Cove: The Land of Dark Waters but if I had to carry one in every dungeon I'd be pissed I couldn't shield, dual wield, or two-hand.
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Jul 6, 2016 15:00
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Night10194 posted:I will forever be grateful they looked at the torch and said 'You know maybe we shouldn't make this quite so important because it just seems really annoying.' Making it an actual item that you can conveniently switch in and out was the right decision.
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Jul 6, 2016 17:00
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My favorite thing about the Pursuer is that he's big and fast and intimidating when you first encounter him, but once you've gotten enough practice and learn his patterns he's a total chump. You can actually avoid every single one of his attacks without even touching your roll button.
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Jul 6, 2016 17:31
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Night10194 posted:I wish it was my job to smash poo poo with a warhammer while wearing business casual. Is that really business casual? He's got a tie and slacks. Obviously wearing the jacket would restrict his movement, so I'd say he is fully outfitted.
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Jul 6, 2016 17:34
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He's certainly not casual, so I'd say it's business hardcore.
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Jul 6, 2016 17:50
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Fister Roboto posted:He's certainly not casual, so I'd say it's business hardcore. Business Souls?
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Jul 6, 2016 18:12
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Pursuer is basically Souls Games personified as a single boss and he's great because of it.
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Jul 6, 2016 18:14
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Night10194 posted:Pursuer is basically Souls Games personified as a single boss and he's great because of it. He's also basically a medieval Armored Core!
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Jul 6, 2016 18:20
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RBA Starblade posted:He's also basically a medieval Armored Core! Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
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Jul 6, 2016 18:25
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RBA Starblade posted:He's also basically a medieval Armored Core! Not quite Armored Core but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6JG2Xd0u8
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Jul 6, 2016 18:27
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With his giant backpack full of weapons he could also be a Special Ops Armored Assault Suit. Just he lacks presidential bearing. Or vice presidential bearing. It's wonderful that From also made a game about the president blowing up america to save it.
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Night10194 posted:With his giant backpack full of weapons he could also be a Special Ops Armored Assault Suit. It's not an exaggeration to say that it is easily From's best game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iggf3zB3gAM
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Jul 6, 2016 18:31
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And desperately in need of a PC port and translation. Voice acting has to stay the same though.
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Jul 6, 2016 18:43
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geop when's metal wolf chaos
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Business Souls? *ceo walks in* who the gently caress wrote chalk all over my office
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Jul 6, 2016 18:52
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In Metal Wolf Chaos 2 every time you die you respawn as the next person in the presidential line of succession.
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White Coke posted:In Metal Wolf Chaos 2 every time you die you respawn as the next person in the presidential line of succession. Also have randomized attributes to rip off Rogue Legacy even further. Goonther the 4th the Hokage with IBS. Find the methane catalyst to have a fart-powered mecha.
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RBA Starblade posted:He's also basically a medieval Armored Core! Genocyber posted:Not quite Armored Core but... FlippyMcGiantDad posted:Wait no god drat it fromsoft you're doing this again. Let's see here...
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And that reminds me, I'm still gradually working my way through Armoured Core: Verdict Day. It's kind of an odd kind of game but I wouldn't mind seeing a new Armoured Core. Admittedly, Verdict Day is my ONLY experience with armoured core. But hey, giant loving mechs with a shitload of customisation and various tactical choice elements sounds good to me.
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Jul 7, 2016 02:46
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Thinking of it as business souls in a corporate environment gives a vastly different meaning to try jumping.
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this is harsh. invest in me
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The first time I beat the pursuer I didn't use the ballistas... he also kicked my rear end probably close to a dozen times. I did get help, but we won it just by beating the crap out of the guy. It was bad until I learned how to aggressively roll. Even though I can chump him now. Comparatively, when I first encountered them, there were only a couple harder bosses.
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MGlBlaze posted:And that reminds me, I'm still gradually working my way through Armoured Core: Verdict Day.  It's a dang good series
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Geop posted:I definitely recommend the PS2 AC games (well, most of them) and For Answer, as well For Answer is definitely my favorite of the bunch, personally. I've a few of the PS2 games, but I haven't played them nearly as much. Always did find the games a bit unwieldy.
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The Pursuer is a gigantic rear end in a top hat, that's my 2 cents.
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I love me some Armored Core so heres a lesson. Dont use only missile launchers in missions, unless you love having a net loss of money at the end of every mission. 
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Frionnel posted:The Pursuer is a gigantic rear end in a top hat, that's my 2 cents. Well, unless you cheese him with the ballistas but SotFS has a few words on that.
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Geop posted:I definitely recommend the PS2 AC games (well, most of them) and For Answer, as well For Answer is my favorite in the series. A story I could actual sort of follow and the much freer boosting than before made some great twitch-play. Oh God, what would White Glint be in a DS game? Some kind of roided out Ornstien, except in 3-dimensional combat?
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The Pursuer is great. My first time around i unknowingly joined the hardmode covenant and had a really hard time with him. He can be kind of a roadblock if you are a new player, but he sure does teach you a lot about the game mechanics. As for the Hardmode Covenant, it can be kind of irritating. On my first run i thought it was something along the lines of the way of the white, so of course i joined. I often wondered why there were no summon signs but i just figured people just weren't playing DS2 as much any more (it was 4 months after release).
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The Pursuer Experience is vastly improved by only calling him "Percy".
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anilEhilated posted:He's interesting mechanics-wise (the sound of a million goons groaning), I think. He's probably the first boss in the game that's an actual challenge you need to think about and strategize for - when I do this, he does that, how can I use that to my advantage - and that's a pretty important lesson. It's really hard to cheese him with the ballistae even in vanilla with ideal circumstances, for the reason Geop showed in his attempt. Everything could be lined up right, the bolts fly... And miss by a hair. Then he turns around and smashes the ballista trying to get to you. I kind of view them as a trap because in all of my attempts at him, I've had way more success beating him up with a buddy/solo than using the ballistae.
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Rubberduke posted:The Pursuer is great. My first time around i unknowingly joined the hardmode covenant and had a really hard time with him. Doesn't it give you like 3 different messages asking if you are sure you want to join? Or were those added in later?
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Rubberduke posted:The Pursuer is great. My first time around i unknowingly joined the hardmode covenant and had a really hard time with him. How did you manage to miss the message telling you that this covenant is for ruffbois only and miss the message telling you this covenant is for tuffbois only?
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Garrand posted:Doesn't it give you like 3 different messages asking if you are sure you want to join? Or were those added in later? .
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Pursuer is great if only because he's one of the few bosses that's worth parrying. So great to repeatedly do that, especially if you're a summon, and then to just clown on him.
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sleepy.eyes posted:Oh God, what would White Glint be in a DS game? Some kind of roided out Ornstien, except in 3-dimensional combat?
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Fish Noise posted:Well, I've seen Snorlax and Pikachu get analogized to these two. I could see that For answer is that good? I played the demo for 4 and couldn't really get into it after loving Another Age and especially Silent Line, and liking the Nexus and Last Raven stuff. I should give the Armored Core 4 stuff another chance then?
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Simply Simon posted:It does say "This will put you down an arduous path, do you really wanna?", but I thought I'd get invaded more often or something, or maybe get Gravelord Phantoms or whatever, which I was totally cool with, not "literally everything is harder now also no summons". Serves me right for assuming things, I guess Same for me. What's also weird about it is that leveling it up has nothing to do with what the Covenant actually does and the rewards are not even all that great.
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PSWII60 posted:I could see that Less 4, and more For Answer specifically. 4 did some strange things from what I hear; For Answer is basically a classic Armored Core game what lets you actually do all that fancy maneuvering and poo poo most of them have in the intro cinematics.
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