And that's why historical right is a load of crap.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 20:19 |
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Back To 99 posted:Russians were in Crimea before the Tatars so how can they be the original inhabitants article? If by Russians you mean "Kievan Rus'" then you'd be right, but this only proves that it rightfully belongs to Kiev, that is to say, Ukraine. Otherwise, the Crimean Khanate was established before there even was a Russia. And anyway, the original inhabitants of Crimea were the Greek, followed by the Venetians and Genoese. Which would mean that the rightful owner of Crimea is the European Union.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 20:27 |
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Back To 99 posted:Russians were in Crimea before the Tatars so how can they be the original inhabitants article? And before Russians there were Greeks, and Pontics, and Scytians, and probably even neanderthals. Original inhabitants is a dumb term but admittedly Tatars have a pretty recent and well anchored cultural claim to lots of the land that was claimed by the the soviet union, a stronger historical claim to those parts than ethnic Russians. If Germany would claim St Petersburg for a few decades I would also rank Russians as having a stronger historical claim to the area than both the Germans and the fenno urgic people Russians evicted or assimilated when they conquered the region. In terms of Crimea ethnic Russians also have a very good claim to parts of it as they have colonized and lived in the area of hundreds of years, though maybe not in the same areas as the Tatars. Historical claims count for little less than nostalgia though, if there is no entity willing and capable of upholding those claims.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 20:45 |
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https://motherboard.vice.com/read/polish-authorities-want-to-question-uk-tor-operator-over-offensive-forum-postquote:
Good luck with that.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 22:09 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Article in the Torygraph today about the Crimean Tatars struggle on to resist Russian rule. I was really hoping that at least the Russians would treat the Tatars okay.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 22:29 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:https://motherboard.vice.com/read/polish-authorities-want-to-question-uk-tor-operator-over-offensive-forum-post That's adorable, I'm totally in favor of old people trying to learn how to work with computers and the internet.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 22:51 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I was really hoping that at least the Russians would treat the Tatars okay. Not many Russian citizens are eligible for the powerful positions of the federation, for that privilege they have to pass a test of willing unfriendlyness and brutality you see.
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 23:08 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I was really hoping that at least the Russians would treat the Tatars okay. death to putin
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# ? Jul 7, 2016 23:23 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I was really hoping that at least the Russians would treat the Tatars okay. In my experience, ultranationalistic irredentist militias and ethnic minorities mix poorly.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 01:14 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:death to putin Lucy I'm disappointed in your choice of support for Korean Asuka instead of the far superior Mei
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 01:14 |
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DrProsek posted:In my experience, ultranationalistic irredentist militias and ethnic minorities mix poorly. Crimea had like zero militias involved. The Russian government has already admitted it was an operation by the Russian military (and issued a bunch of medals for it). Of course that just means it was an ultranationalistic irredentist military.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 05:22 |
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waitwhatno posted:That's adorable, I'm totally in favor of old people trying to learn how to work with computers and the internet. It's just C.Y.A. procedure, the prosecutor is more than happy that she'll be able to discontinue the investigation due to being unable to identify the author of the comment. Unfortunately or fortunately, even the most absurd crime reports have to be at least cursorily examined before being dismissed, I once saw a criminal file where some poor cop had to type out a 20-page statement from a loony who showed up at a police station and reported a vast conspiracy by atheists and communists to commit genocide against Polish catholics, and then various courts had to consider his appeals when the case got shut down for being nonsense.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 06:15 |
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Warbadger posted:Crimea had like zero militias involved. The Russian government has already admitted it was an operation by the Russian military (and issued a bunch of medals for it). Of course that just means it was an ultranationalistic irredentist military. Actually quite a few marginal types were flown in originally to act as "local protestors", and besides military there were also "local self-defense" parading around, including even Chetnicks. Just the group to see around to reassure a Muslim minority, right? That's partly where the whole "polite people" thing came up --- big difference between military men and those types in how they behave. Of course, Russia's entire identity as a country is based on imperialism, so irrenditism is quite heavy all around.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 06:17 |
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szary posted:It's just C.Y.A. procedure, the prosecutor is more than happy that she'll be able to discontinue the investigation due to being unable to identify the author of the comment. Unfortunately or fortunately, even the most absurd crime reports have to be at least cursorily examined before being dismissed, I once saw a criminal file where some poor cop had to type out a 20-page statement from a loony who showed up at a police station and reported a vast conspiracy by atheists and communists to commit genocide against Polish catholics, and then various courts had to consider his appeals when the case got shut down for being nonsense. And then he was elected President.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 06:54 |
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Sorry for the artifacts.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 12:54 |
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Here is a live stream if you're that bored. http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_67375.htm HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jul 8, 2016 |
# ? Jul 8, 2016 16:28 |
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The new Polish postal service uniform looks a tad fascist.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 16:36 |
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They play the drum AND the bugle when they deliver parcels! HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jul 8, 2016 |
# ? Jul 8, 2016 16:37 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The new Polish postal service uniform looks a tad fascist. Neither rain or snow, nor international jewery...
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 16:46 |
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I'm on the phone, somebody please post the "Tusk did Smoleńsk" leaflets that are given out to NATO officials.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 16:50 |
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icantfindaname posted:Lucy I'm disappointed in your choice of support for Korean Asuka instead of the far superior Mei mei is actuall my second favorite overwatch hero, but id don't play her too much becuse noone wants to play support or tank
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:12 |
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David Cameron looks like what he thought was a fart was actually something more, and the guy behind him just realized.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:14 |
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https://twitter.com/CIR_CSM/status/751444732212043776 A Buttery Pastry posted:David Cameron looks like what he thought was a fart was actually something more, and the guy behind him just realized. Don't think he's had a chance to change his shorts by the look on his face. https://twitter.com/laurapoulter/status/751439961929515008 https://twitter.com/EnzoDarwin/status/751449989109256192
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:20 |
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These Loss parodies are getting weirder
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:24 |
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Who's the dude with the baller cane?
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:25 |
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Pretty man spotted.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:35 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:They play the drum AND the bugle when they deliver parcels! Lol. Is that merkel in the middle looking around awkwardly? "poo poo, I knew I should've worn navy blue."
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:41 |
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Kristov posted:Lol. Is that merkel in the middle looking around awkwardly? Merkel always seems to look awkward. Kind of incredible for such a successful politician. ... and doesn't the big honcho get to have a separate uniform style anyway?
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:49 |
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Kristov posted:Lol. Is that merkel in the middle looking around awkwardly?
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 17:51 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Who's the dude with the baller cane? Miloš Zeman.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 18:20 |
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It was a dick move to stand the tiniest guy next to Obama.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 18:22 |
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Lichtenstein posted:I'm on the phone, somebody please post the "Tusk did Smoleńsk" leaflets that are given out to NATO officials.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:45 |
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Screenshot from the latest Sims character creator looking good.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:48 |
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Smolensk?
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:52 |
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I just love that NATO has to be NATO / OTAN just for the french.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:53 |
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This is what happened in Russia today. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/06/24/russia-s-state-duma-just-approved-some-of-the-most-repressive-laws-in-post-soviet-history quote:On Friday, June 24, Russia's State Duma approved a final draft of several anti-terrorist laws spearheaded by deputy Irina Yarovaya. Though lawmakers removed many of the legislation's most odious amendments at the last minute (which, in part, would have made it possible to revoke convicts' Russian citizenship and their right to travel abroad), the bill still revises dozens of existing laws in ways that could have profound consequences for people living in Russia. For “Yarovaya's legislation” to become law, the Federation Council must next approve the legislation, and then President Putin needs to sign it. There is no doubt that this will happen. Meduza offers a brief summary of what the State Duma just set into motion. https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/751019610258964480
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:07 |
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OddObserver posted:Merkel always seems to look awkward. Kind of incredible for such a successful politician. I like how, despite not seeing her hands, you can tell that she's totally doing her hand thing.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 21:14 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:This is what happened in Russia today. That's uh, pretty ballsy of Snowden to do while in Russia. Hopefully he's got backup asylums lined up
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 21:38 |
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Baronjutter posted:I just love that NATO has to be NATO / OTAN just for the french. Don't forget half the Belgians and some of the Canadians! English and French are both official languages of the organization, it's been like this since it was created, deal with it.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 22:13 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Don't forget half the Belgians and some of the Canadians! Cat Mattress posted:English and French are both official languages of the organization, it's been like this since it was created, deal with it.
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