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pretty funny to watch the servers die and struggle to come up again before dying once more in waves an hour apart as different US (and Canada) time zones go on their noon breaks California is going to lunch in 15 minutes and I don't anticipate being able to play this again until 9 pm after that
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I sure as hell didn't expect this game to be as popular as it is, I guess they didn't either
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Jul 8, 2016 19:47
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 Hello darkness, my old friend
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Jul 8, 2016 19:50
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Is there anyone in the Harrisburg, PA area interested in doing some Pokemans? I had a Harrisburg channel made on Discord.
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Jul 8, 2016 19:52
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Fullhouse posted:pretty funny to watch the servers die and struggle to come up again before dying once more in waves an hour apart as different US (and Canada) time zones go on their noon breaks I like this game but hate the devs, since the servers are only reliable at night time the best and probably most fun and active way to play it is public parks that are lit at night, or hiking trails with a head lamp, and of course both of these places have level 12 caterpies and my friends who have an apartment above a bar are catching level 218 snorlaxs from their bathroom The GPS locations pretty much turned what could have been the most sociable and healthy stupid phone game into more of just a regular stupid phone game. If they open up requests/suggestions for changes to the locations this could be amazing, but even if they eventually do this all of the laziest people will already have level 999 charizards
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Jul 8, 2016 19:52
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i was just sitting at the humane society for like 3 hours and there was 3 pokestops there and i couldn't farm them because of the stupid servers 
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Jul 8, 2016 19:57
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I sure as hell didn't expect this game to be as popular as it is, I guess they didn't either
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Jul 8, 2016 19:59
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Killer Queen posted:It's really tiring to have the second day in a row with the servers dying around noon EDT. Yeah, the server load is insane, but there's really no excuse for skimping out on a Pokemon game's servers. They knew this was going to happen! So I did a bit of reading, because I noticed that everyone just vomited stuff like this out: Tender Bender posted:Pretty much every online game ever has server overloads at launch and it's because that's the time when EVERYONE is trying to play all at once. Even if they keep most of their users the login times will level off. It's not worth investing in the infrastructure to handle a server load that is only going to be an issue for a few days. I can't tell if they actually know what they're talking about or if it's just an explanation they read once and twenty years of MMOs later they just hit the I believe button. Either way from what I read the issue is that the game is built in such a way that it can't benefit from more servers. We're probably all hitting the same database, which sets up a central bottleneck that can't easily be routed around with more servers. So even if they did get Jeff Bezos to hand over the entire Amazon Cloud, it wouldn't do anything to alleviate the database issue. Even if it did, plugging in and removing that kind of stuff could lead to a lot of massive downstream issues that would piss everyone off once they'd progressed further in the game. I mean what they really should have done is owned the issue and said "hey guys, our game probably will be difficult to log into for the first few days" but they assumed there'd be enough smug MMO veterans like this guy around to explain it to everyone, and also we'll all forget about these issues in a few weeks whereas if they say "hey here is a known, intentional flaw in your pokemon go gaming experience" then that poo poo will be around to quote forever by vengeful nerds. Anyway see you in the game whenever!
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Jul 8, 2016 20:02
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Some people have said that individual Pokémon are instanced. Are we sure about this? Twice today, a stranger and I encountered the same monster in the same place at the same time. There was a humongous Krabby at a nursery and then a Koffing outside of a bank.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:05
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Prop Wash posted:Either way from what I read the issue is that the game is built in such a way that it can't benefit from more servers. We're probably all hitting the same database If this is true, that's pretty damning. I can't imagine a company that already has experience would be that incompetent though. Chill Penguin posted:Some people have said that individual Pokémon are instanced. Are we sure about this? Twice today, a stranger and I encountered the same monster in the same place at the same time. There was a humongous Krabby at a nursery and then a Koffing outside of a bank. I've heard the exact opposite.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:06
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"Smug MMO veterans"? If basic pattern recognition is a sign of smugness then call me the Smuggest
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Jul 8, 2016 20:07
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they should make all gamestops pokespots. can i get a gamer heck yeah
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Jul 8, 2016 20:07
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Chill Penguin posted:Twice today, a stranger and I encountered the same monster in the same place at the same time. Yeah, the same ones show up for everyone but exist and can be caught separately.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:08
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Chill Penguin posted:Some people have said that individual Pokémon are instanced. Are we sure about this? Twice today, a stranger and I encountered the same monster in the same place at the same time. There was a humongous Krabby at a nursery and then a Koffing outside of a bank. My wife and I consistently catch the same pokes over and over. Often I can have my game open at home and see something pop up, and my wife can log in and it will show up for her moments later as well.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:10
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Chill Penguin posted:Some people have said that individual Pokémon are instanced. Are we sure about this? Twice today, a stranger and I encountered the same monster in the same place at the same time. There was a humongous Krabby at a nursery and then a Koffing outside of a bank. If my girlfriend spots something and I don't have my phone out if I turn it on I can catch the same pokemon, so we definitely get the same ones.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:10
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Well, the game hasn't killed anybody yet, but it did turn up a dead body.quote:"The Pokemons are all over Riverton," she said. Shayla showed County 10 the game on her cellphone which displayed a map of Riverton where these Pokemons are located.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:14
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I wish the servers could stay up long enough for me to take a nice long walk. The park near me is a goldmine, a few gyms and Pokestops almost every 30 feet because of historical plaques on all the park benches: I got to one of the gyms (another bench) that seemed easy to take over and there were 3 dudes sitting on the bench playing. The park was actually full of 20 somethings wandering around with their phones up, pretty funny. Too bad the servers crashed right when I tried to start a gym battle.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:17
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Did anyone find the actual game in this game yet? Or is it just about walking and catching Pokémons when you stumble on them. --- Aurelius ---
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Jul 8, 2016 20:20
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Prop Wash posted:I can't tell if they actually know what they're talking about or if it's just an explanation they read once and twenty years of MMOs later they just hit the I believe button. Either way from what I read the issue is that the game is built in such a way that it can't benefit from more servers. We're probably all hitting the same database, which sets up a central bottleneck that can't easily be routed around with more servers. So even if they did get Jeff Bezos to hand over the entire Amazon Cloud, it wouldn't do anything to alleviate the database issue. Even if it did, plugging in and removing that kind of stuff could lead to a lot of massive downstream issues that would piss everyone off once they'd progressed further in the game. Where did you read this lol
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Jul 8, 2016 20:21
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GlyphGryph posted:If this is true, that's pretty damning. I can't imagine a company that already has experience would be that incompetent though. Well it's not like we're instanced. I may not have any way to really interact with you if you're in the US, but you and everyone else logging on in the USTZ early afternoon still crashes my game in Europe.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:22
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Aureliu5 posted:Did anyone find the actual game in this game yet? Capturing and defending gyms is probably what you're looking for.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:22
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Aureliu5 posted:Did anyone find the actual game in this game yet? That and gyms is pretty much it. It's not a very deep game, still fun though, but we'll see how long it lasts.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:24
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Fellatio del Toro posted:Where did you read this lol If I'm wrong then I'm sure some obsessive network admin will be along to explain how it actually works, and then we'll all be better educated. In the meantime feel free to make mouth noises
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Jul 8, 2016 20:26
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It'd be great to make some progress in this game without having to run around my empty rear end neighborhood at 10pm with like 1 loving pokestop near by.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:28
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Prop Wash posted:If I'm wrong then I'm sure some obsessive network admin will be along to explain how it actually works, and then we'll all be better educated. In the meantime feel free to make mouth noises you used the words "from what I read" in your post that makes a lot of very specific assumptions about the server/database setup in this phone game, so you could try citing that (or admitting you made it all up)
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Jul 8, 2016 20:34
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I was just sharing what I've seen explained every time any online game for the past decade+ has login issues at launch, sorry if that was too smug for you.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:38
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Chill Penguin posted:Some people have said that individual Pokémon are instanced. Are we sure about this? Twice today, a stranger and I encountered the same monster in the same place at the same time. There was a humongous Krabby at a nursery and then a Koffing outside of a bank. Multiple people can definitely catch the exact same pokemon, but it does vary with player level. I was the same level as someone else, and we both caught a 143 Oddish. Was with people 2-3 levels lower- we caught Meowth at the same location/time, but mine was like 130 power, and theirs was 50 power.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:39
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also the game not remembering your google login really blows if you have 2-step authentication
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Jul 8, 2016 20:39
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Is Combat Power tied to your trainer level? Like if a have a weedle with a cap of 100, when I level up will it's power also move up? Or is it stuck forever at 100 being it's cap, unless it's evolved.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:40
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Several times in the past, World of Warcraft has had server issues. Sometimes it is a problem with the login server and not the actual game servers themselves. I think the login server itself is basically just "Is this person a registered and legal user?" and that's all the interaction you have with it. But when lots of people are trying to access it at once (like say, a game launch) the server itself can overload and not let anyone on. It's possible today something similar is going on with Go, more likely than a goon making things up whole cloth. Not much more likely, mind you. Also I made this whole post up.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:41
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No it's cool Tender Bender I'm sure everyone is super-interested in your baseless suppositions.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:41
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crazkylo posted:Is Combat Power tied to your trainer level? The CP cap is tied to your level. Your pokemon's CP won't increase automatically with your level, but its CP cap will increase.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:42
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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ SERVERS TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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Jul 8, 2016 20:43
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crazkylo posted:Is Combat Power tied to your trainer level? it's cap is tied to your level, so something with a cap of 100 will have its CP cap raised when you level up (but its actual CP won't change) this also applies to encounters!
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robot roll call posted:also the game not remembering your google login really blows if you have 2-step authentication I don't think it's that it doesn't remember, so much as every time there's server issues, it logs everyone out. Eventually, once everything stablizies, you won't have to keep logging in.
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Fullhouse posted:you used the words "from what I read" in your post that makes a lot of very specific assumptions about the server/database setup in this phone game, so you could try citing that (or admitting you made it all up) Well obviously it's all speculation about the setup. The discussion centered on whether the designers simply chose not to shell out for the infrastructure, or whether they actually can't easily upscale the design. What I was reading was examples from other, unrelated online games. I was trying to say that it's possible for the latter to be true for Pokemon go, which I think might not be as common knowledge as some people think it is. At any rate its launch day and the servers are crapping out, which makes it prime time for a discussion about why the servers might be out and why the designers might not be able to do anything about it.
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robot roll call posted:also the game not remembering your google login really blows if you have 2-step authentication I have two step and have never needed to authenticate for Go, do you have some weird super strict authentication setting or something?
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Jul 8, 2016 20:46
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i wish there was more training the pokemon you caught instead of feeding them candy from dupes
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Jul 8, 2016 20:49
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deadwing posted:I have two step and have never needed to authenticate for Go, do you have some weird super strict authentication setting or something? I have a text message sent with a code to input every time I need to log in.
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Zurui posted:No it's cool Tender Bender I'm sure everyone is super-interested in your baseless suppositions. We're speculating about the servers and no one actually works there with hands on knowledge. You don't need to be a dick.
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