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"Hurry we need to get some black people up here to tell people not to shoot cops."
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Reason posted:"Hurry we need to get some black people up here to tell people not to shoot cops." Don't sleep on this guy for "shittiest posting of 2016" yall
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Jul 8, 2016 20:36
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Snoop Dog for Police Chief.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:36
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Mister Adequate posted:Even the beeb's doing it So is think progressive http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/08/3796604/dallas-police-ambush-killer-identified/ 
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Jul 8, 2016 20:37
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zoux posted:Don't sleep on this guy for "shittiest posting of 2016" yall sorry I think you already took that mantle
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Jul 8, 2016 20:37
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Trabisnikof posted:So is think progressive http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/08/3796604/dallas-police-ambush-killer-identified/ I get why it's a great attention getter but you hope against hope someone is going to exercise some editorial restraint. I mean I guess at this point the damage is done and if everyone is doing it why handicap yourself but also UGHHHHH
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Jul 8, 2016 20:38
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Trabisnikof posted:So is think progressive http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/08/3796604/dallas-police-ambush-killer-identified/ now that is really depressing 
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Jul 8, 2016 20:39
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zoux posted:I get why it's a great attention getter but you hope against hope someone is going to exercise some editorial restraint. I mean I guess at this point the damage is done and if everyone is doing it why handicap yourself but also UGHHHHH i mean i get the rational reason why you would show both, to show both sides of someone maybe? i would hope some would do it to show how he's separate from BLM and is involved in more extreme black power/nationalist type groups, but gently caress idk
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Jul 8, 2016 20:40
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Paul Ryan wants this to be about the police and race and anything but guns. It's going to work too.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:40
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Reason posted:sorry I think you already took that mantle  with your rahowa poo poo.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:41
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https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/751499038458015744 By next week people will be tracing this all the way back to 1863.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:41
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Glad Snoop is trying to get minds changed.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:41
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zoux posted:I get why it's a great attention getter but you hope against hope someone is going to exercise some editorial restraint. I mean I guess at this point the damage is done and if everyone is doing it why handicap yourself but also UGHHHHH If this is honestly his Facebook profile pic, then how is the media doing wrong by him by using the photo he presented to the world? Sure, the photo hurts a bunch of movements I support, but I can see how using that photo is the most newsyest photo to pick. Consider the outrage if the ideologies were reversed and we found out the media was choosing the army pic over the pic with clothes with ideological overtones.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:44
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Micah Johnson is the making of America’s own racist creationquote:Please allow me to teach you how to bake a cake from scratch. The recipe has just seven ingredients and it's pretty hard to mess up. Long article with  pics of Sterling and Castille.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:45
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Trabisnikof posted:If this is honestly his Facebook profile pic, then how is the media doing wrong by him by using the photo he presented to the world? Well because the message he presented to the world is "kill all cops with sniper attacks". If he's trying to forward race war, then I don't want news media uncritically reporting and helping accomplish that goal, just as I don't think that Unabomber manifestos or serial killer taunt letters should be printed in the paper. This is all highly controversial in journalism circles, of course.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:47
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RuanGacho posted:Paul Ryan wants this to be about the police and race and anything but guns. Yep, and what sucks is both need to be addressed, but If people try to latch on guns, Black organizer's are gonna be pissed(justifiably so because it would cover up their complaints), and if we don't then are real good chance to talk about guns in this country is gone. Like this whole loving situation is great for a discussion about open carry and guns but nope
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Jul 8, 2016 20:49
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zoux posted:Well because the message he presented to the world is "kill all cops with sniper attacks". If he's trying to forward race war, then I don't want news media uncritically reporting and helping accomplish that goal, just as I don't think that Unabomber manifestos or serial killer taunt letters should be printed in the paper. This is all highly controversial in journalism circles, of course. Heaven forbid they report on the facts. Just the narratives convenient to my cause please.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:50
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Nitrousoxide posted:Heaven forbid they report on the facts. There's no such thing. https://twitter.com/NormOrnstein/status/751499673425158144 Gee who could be behind this one I wonder.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:52
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Reason posted:sorry I think you already took that mantle shut the gently caress up
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Jul 8, 2016 20:52
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^ no you i like how the media is calling his strategy evil but its literally just military training sop for when you're in combat against enemy combatants only evil when its used on our occupying police officers lol
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Jul 8, 2016 20:54
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Remember in 2009 when Rich Poplawski's dog pissed on his mom's carpet so she left and called the cops on him and he thought it was Obamatroops coming to take MUH GUNS so he gunned them down (three dead) after posting about Obama and Jews on Stormfront and elsewhere all day
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Jul 8, 2016 20:54
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Dexo posted:Yep, and what sucks is both need to be addressed, but If people try to latch on guns, Black organizer's are gonna be pissed(justifiably so because it would cover up their complaints), and if we don't then are real good chance to talk about guns in this country is gone. I feel like the way to thread the needle on this and start by asking why police officers need to have deadly force without a judge's authorization, like literally, they can't unlock their lethal weapons without a third party authorizing it. Clear rules as to when it's permitted instead of having a militarized peace keeping force. At the very least we can save minority lives from execution like happened this week. Yes it's going to cost money, civil society does.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:55
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Reason posted:^ no you what the gently caress are you even talking about
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Jul 8, 2016 20:57
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RuanGacho posted:Paul Ryan wants this to be about the police and race and anything but guns. At least it's something. Better than the typical "Thoughts and prayers, we can't discuss sensitive matters at a time like this, all lives matter, lalalalala I can't hear you."
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Jul 8, 2016 20:58
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RuanGacho posted:I feel like the way to thread the needle on this and start by asking why police officers need to have deadly force without a judge's authorization, like literally, they can't unlock their lethal weapons without a third party authorizing it. Clear rules as to when it's permitted instead of having a militarized peace keeping force. At the very least we can save minority lives from execution like happened this week. OK, I'm leading the charge on "policing isn't as dangerous as police act like it is" but that doesn't mean I don't think that sometimes it's appropriate for a policeman to use his weapon in a quick-decision situation, you nutjob
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Jul 8, 2016 20:58
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:what the gently caress are you even talking about 'well-thought out evil strategy' theflyingorc posted:OK, I'm leading the charge on "policing isn't as dangerous as police act like it is" but that doesn't mean I don't think that sometimes it's appropriate for a policeman to use his weapon in a quick-decision situation, you nutjob regular police shouldn't even be carrying lethal weapons end of story.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:00
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Internet Webguy posted:At least it's something. Better than the typical "Thoughts and prayers, we can't discuss sensitive matters at a time like this, all lives matter, lalalalala I can't hear you." I'll stop calling bullshit deflection as soon as he puts a bill up for a vote instead of doing what he always does, pontificating outside of reality. Paul Ryan doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Not using thoughts and prayers is just not committing an unforced error at this point. theflyingorc posted:OK, I'm leading the charge on "policing isn't as dangerous as police act like it is" but that doesn't mean I don't think that sometimes it's appropriate for a policeman to use his weapon in a quick-decision situation, you nutjob If you could describe in more detail where I am in error I'm willing to consider being in error. I don't think it's dumb to think peace officers shouldn't be carrying lethal force at their own discretion by default, they are agents of the state and everyone should be treated equally. Discretion leads to body cameras "falling off". RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Jul 8, 2016 21:00
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Karl Sharks posted:i mean i get the rational reason why you would show both, to show both sides of someone maybe? i would hope some would do it to show how he's separate from BLM and is involved in more extreme black power/nationalist type groups, but gently caress idk A black person does not need to be involved in extremist movements to own a dashiki. gently caress off.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:00
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theflyingorc posted:OK, I'm leading the charge on "policing isn't as dangerous as police act like it is" but that doesn't mean I don't think that sometimes it's appropriate for a policeman to use his weapon in a quick-decision situation, you nutjob American is exceptional in this way of course. If we have to split the difference I'd rather patrolmen be unarmed and you can have special SWAT teams or whatever for emergencies or when you want to troll a streamer. Paul MaudDib posted:A black person does not need to be involved in extremist movements to own a dashiki. gently caress off. No but the art in the context of the story definitely conflates all kinds of black activism with extremism. That may be intentional depending on which news source you see it on.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:01
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Internet Webguy posted:At least it's something. Better than the typical "Thoughts and prayers, we can't discuss sensitive matters at a time like this, all lives matter, lalalalala I can't hear you." They're still playing the "we can't talk about guns at a time like this" card, though. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/ben-carson-dallas-shooting-obama-225278
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Jul 8, 2016 21:01
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So Seattle PD tweeted (and quickly deleted) a tweet for their fellow boys in blue lost in Dallas last night, which is fine I guess, they're allowed to grieve. But then ended their tweet with #WeShallOvercome, which I think we can all agree is really gross to co-opt.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:04
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zoux posted:American is exceptional in this way of course. If we repeal the second then we can talk about unarmed policemen.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:04
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"occupying police officers"
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Jul 8, 2016 21:04
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theflyingorc posted:Yes, because we have the second amendment, meaning that it is significantly more likely that the person you are attempting to apprehend has a gun. As I am a nutjob you can assume that I don't want anyone but the military wielding lethal force. Society should be more civil than that.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:06
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theflyingorc posted:Yes, because we have the second amendment, meaning that it is significantly more likely that the person you are attempting to apprehend has a gun. The Second Amendment doesn't really have anything to do with policemen (armed or otherwise), unless you're literally trying to get rid of every gun in America. A policeman has a gun as a part of their job function, not because of their private rights.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:07
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:So Seattle PD tweeted (and quickly deleted) a tweet for their fellow boys in blue lost in Dallas last night, which is fine I guess, they're allowed to grieve. But then ended their tweet with #WeShallOvercome, which I think we can all agree is really gross to co-opt. Overcome what? The heat that was being put on them for executing black people?
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Jul 8, 2016 21:08
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theflyingorc posted:Yes, because we have the second amendment, meaning that it is significantly more likely that the person you are attempting to apprehend has a gun. Happy to repeal the second amendment, myself.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:08
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It's a goofy half-formed, probably dumb idea, but I think that it'd be interesting to pair police with trained social workers for patrols. That way, whenever there's a police interaction, there'd be at least one person on the scene who is highly trained and educated. Give them entirely independent chains of command, it's not necessarily a bad thing if an adversarial relationship forms. Worst case, it's a jobs program.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:08
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:"occupying police officers" BLM protesters and other anti-police/state violence often refer to police as an occupying force in their neighborhoods. Sorry if that wasn't clear to you. I imagine Micah felt the same way being a black veteran and he just used what our military trained him to do when facing the enemy I don't really see how that is 'evil tactics'.
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computer parts posted:The Second Amendment doesn't really have anything to do with policemen (armed or otherwise), unless you're literally trying to get rid of every gun in America. Even if the public at large was disarmed it's absolutely inconceivable that cops would be willing to give up (or accept significant barriers to utilizing) their armaments. Cops here have way too much of a warrior mentality compared to someplace like the UK. That's why this post from a day back is so precious. meristem posted:It feels like a lot of the US would benefit from mutual disarmament treaties. The locals lose guns, and so do the police. (This of course was in response to the cops murdering yet another black man in cold blood streamed live on the internet, which despite seeming like ages ago happened a mere day back)
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