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Paul MaudDib posted:I've said it before, but AMD has released exactly five chips across all market segments since GCN 1.0 in 2012. Bonaire, Hawaii, Tonga, Fiji, and now Polaris 10. They are still actively marketing those ancient GCN 1.0 chips - the 370 is a Pitcairn and Tahiti was only eliminated in the last round. I wonder why that is, they're a big company, they should have enough resources for good R&D.
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I...I think that's Fahrenheit, I don't think a 4870X2 could legitimately idle at 90° Celsius unless you attacked it with a hair dryer. Char posted:I'll chime in as well - i5-760 & 6870 and I'm getting 20-40 fps as well. Odd, isn't a i5 760 > PII 955? What's the resolution? Twerk from Home posted:Why on earth are 4 year old server CPUs with an original MSRP of $2000 available for $60, but people want ~$150 for even older desktop CPUs that sold for $200 new? This isn't 100% true, there are still a lot of Xeons that are just as overpriced, it's all about socket and compatibility. If it fits into the standard socket, it usually sits in the same price bracket, because of course.
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Speaking of the 4870x2, it just occured to me that ATI/AMD basically invented NVlink back in 2008 with their sideport interconnect: Then, despite having the hardware, did absolutely nothing with it. And now NV is making stupid amounts of money off the same idea in the HPC space 
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Jul 8, 2016 18:18
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They also had/have a compute heavy architecture as well, so it's just baffling all around. Of course, AMD is actively trying to pursue it now but uh, 2008-2010 was definitely the time AMD should have dove on top of GPGPU and HPC.Paul MaudDib posted:I've said it before, but AMD has released exactly five chips across all market segments since GCN 1.0 in 2012. Bonaire, Hawaii, Tonga, Fiji, and now Polaris 10. They are still actively marketing those ancient GCN 1.0 chips - the 370 is a Pitcairn and Tahiti was only eliminated in the last round. 20nm failure hit them hard (as did betting on 32nm), and if they had enough foresight the 300 series should have been a refresh and update of Bonaire, Pitcairn, Tonga and Hawaii to GCN3 (1.2). Tahiti to Tonga was what, an average of 30-40W saved for normal workloads? Imagine a Hawaii that sucked closer to 225W, or Bonaire more readily competing with the 750ti. AMD is always jumping to the next node instead of ever really refining what they have into something better and they got beat over the head with it.
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FaustianQ posted:Odd, isn't a i5 760 > PII 955? What's the resolution? 1080p, low details.
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Just sold my R9 290x for $220 on eBay, and I have my $170 RX 480 arriving on Monday. Does anyone know where I can find the BIOS and Flash programs for the 8GB XFX model? I need to download more RAM.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:10
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Since I decided to splurge on a nice new 3440x1440 34 in. behemoth and 1080 stock still seems to be loving non-existent I really need to know what the hell I need to do to find one rather than just signing up for auto-notify on all the out of stock models on newegg. I love this new monitor but this poor 980 from last year can barely get 30 FPS on WoW of all things now.
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Zero VGS posted:Just sold my R9 290x for $220 on eBay, and I have my $170 RX 480 arriving on Monday. https://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2728/atiflash-2-74 I used the XFX bios from this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1604567/polaris-bios-mod-rx480/70 Called XFX-RX480-OC-EDITION1288mhz-8GB-RAM.zip 109k .zip There is another generic bios here: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/184327/amd-rx480-8192-160603-1 After you backup your bios, load one of those and click program in the ATI flash program. Make sure to run it as administrator and reboot when you're done. It's been working great since I flashed it with the XFX one.
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Jul 8, 2016 20:33
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Finally fired up a brand new AAA game (Witcher 3) on my 1080p TV to actually make my 1070 work. This is my first gaming PC, coming from PS4. So this is what I've been missing. JESUS CHRIST this game is pretty.
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RedneckwithGuns posted:Since I decided to splurge on a nice new 3440x1440 34 in. behemoth and 1080 stock still seems to be loving non-existent I really need to know what the hell I need to do to find one rather than just signing up for auto-notify on all the out of stock models on newegg. I love this new monitor but this poor 980 from last year can barely get 30 FPS on WoW of all things now. https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/
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Jul 8, 2016 20:58
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Holy poo poo, they actually pushed out some basic information on the 480 AIBs: http://videocardz.com/62059/asus-msi-gigabyte-powercolor-and-sapphire-custom-radeon-rx-480-pictured Trip report: they're all using a single 8-pin power connector, and also they all have backplates and poo poo. Some rumors of a 10amp draw off the PCI-E for the XFX card? (I guess spec says don't go beyond 6 amp?) I dunno, the Nitro is pretty.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:05
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AndrewP posted:Finally fired up a brand new AAA game (Witcher 3) on my 1080p TV to actually make my 1070 work. This is my first gaming PC, coming from PS4. I really need a new monitor.
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Jul 8, 2016 21:17
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Since I bought a new headset I've noticed the sound of my reference cooler on the 1080 I have a little more lately and it's kinda bugging me. The Arctic site list the Accelero Extreme IV as supporting the 1080 so I'm thinking of picking it up to make the PC a little quieter. Anybody have any word on why this might be a bad idea? I'm not fussed by taking the card apart or anything, it doesn't seem to void the warranty. FaintlyQuaint fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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FaintlyQuaint posted:Anybody have any word on why this might be a bad idea? It's enormous, you'll lose access to the 3 slots below your x16 slot and SLI will be out of the question. But if that's an acceptable loss I don't see why not. Have you considered an AIO water-cooler adapter? The Kraken G10 supports the 1080FE: https://www.nzxt.com/products/kraken-g10-white repiv fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Jul 8, 2016 21:50
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repiv posted:It's enormous, you'll lose access to the 3 slots below your x16 slot and SLI will be out of the question. But if that's an acceptable loss I don't see why not. Oh, this sounds alright then. I don't ever plan to SLI anything and I can always keep the reference cooler handy I guess in case I do. I have one of those old monster HAF 932 cases from CM and a full atx mobo so it looks like it should fit. Edit: No, I haven't considered watercooling. I'm sure it's just as easy as air, but not sure if I want to dive into it. FaintlyQuaint fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Jul 8, 2016 21:57
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FaintlyQuaint posted:Edit: No, I haven't considered watercooling. I'm sure it's just as easy as air, but not sure if I want to dive into it. AIOs are easy mode. You bolt the cooler onto the GPU, put the shroud over the top of it, and then attach the radiator somewhere (it does need to be above the GPU, you don't want air bubbles in the pump). If you're changing the cooler anyway, apart from having to mount the radiator somewhere it's the same procedure. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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repiv posted:Speaking of the 4870x2, it just occured to me that ATI/AMD basically invented NVlink back in 2008 with their sideport interconnect: They had the tech, and not only did absolutely nothing with it, it was never turned on for the X2 because they said all it did was add heat.  No way it "Idled at 90C", it ran up to 90C though on one of the cores/vrm's easy though if you left the fan profile stock, and with a little extra voltage, could go as high as 130-135C lol. Went through 3 of those beast though. drat it was fast at the time, but they did like to cook themselves to death. Also on the old i5/C2Q guys, are your motherboard void of any overclocking abilities? Stock I can see those chips holding you back a lot, but if you can OC them, both chip should be able to get around an extra 1Ghz out of them with a good cooler that should allow Overwatch to run fine. Another thing you may want to try is turning the scaling down to 50% instead of Auto so it doesn't move up and down a bunch when FPS fluctuates depending on the scene. My old 1st gen i7 720QM laptop with a 5870M runs it fine at 1080P 50% but on auto it goes from 40-60 and you can see the game sort of slow down a bit as the Fps drops, then goes back up as it messes with scaling. :/
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Is it still likely to be forever before the 1070's go down to 379? Should I just say F it and grab one for 430ish? I have my oculus rift but my 770 just isn't cutting it. Also, any idea on a fair price to sell the 770 for?
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jmcg_omg_kekeke posted:Is it still likely to be forever before the 1070's go down to 379? Should I just say F it and grab one for 430ish? I have my oculus rift but my 770 just isn't cutting it. Also, any idea on a fair price to sell the 770 for? There's one Gigabyte Windforce that retails for $399 on newegg but it's not been in stock much. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875
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Thanks. Ordered one in less than 5 minutes from what was available.
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So, I just installed my 1070 and ran Firestrike. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13051621 Does...that seem a little low?
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PerrineClostermann posted:So, I just installed my 1070 and ran Firestrike. With oc this was my result with a similar setup to yours.
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https://twitter.com/OC3D/status/751531325656489988 lol.
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PerrineClostermann posted:So, I just installed my 1070 and ran Firestrike. The results show the core clock really low. Did you confirm that your card is clocking up correctly?
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Prescription Combs posted:The results show the core clock really low. Did you confirm that your card is clocking up correctly?
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Are the Gigabyte Windforce 1070 cards fine? Have there been any problems with them reported?
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Gonkish posted:Holy poo poo, they actually pushed out some basic information on the 480 AIBs: http://videocardz.com/62059/asus-msi-gigabyte-powercolor-and-sapphire-custom-radeon-rx-480-pictured And they're all sporting DVI ports. I suppose that using an AIB cooler means that you don't need the vent holes on the mounting bracket as much but man it seems like we've been teased a DVI-less future for years now..
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Also I have been waiting for this A Desktop 1070 inside a ASUS gaming laptop sounds like a pretty sweet deal. ~980Ti performance on the go would make portable VR setups and demos a lot easier for sure, and with a 1080P screen still, not like you will have any trouble playing anything for the next few years on it at max settings. Though the temptation to wait for a desktop 1080 is there too... Grrr
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I wish that MSI Afterburner was set by actual clock speeds and not offsets. The last time I OC'd any cards was back in the 6870 days. I'll see if I can figure out this brave new world with GPU boosts and whatnot. Is Afterburner still the program to use?
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Looks like AMD is getting ready to do that thing where they stick chips together into one big chip: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/amd-accidentally-lists-radeon-rx-490-on-website/ I know the 480 isn't exactly wowing people, but if they can put two together, lower the clocks/volts so they're not in crazy power-chug mode, and get them to act like crossfire without the crossfire hassles, the 490 could be a hit.
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Paul MaudDib posted:AIOs are easy mode. You bolt the cooler onto the GPU, put the shroud over the top of it, and then attach the radiator somewhere (it does need to be above the GPU, you don't want air bubbles in the pump). If you're changing the cooler anyway, it's really no different apart from having to mount the radiator. Absolutely this - water cooling has come a long way from the DIY kit days. If I had room in my case I'd get a little 120 CLC for my card, they're ludicrously easy.
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Zero VGS posted:Looks like AMD is getting ready to do that thing where they stick chips together into one big chip: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/amd-accidentally-lists-radeon-rx-490-on-website/ I hate to say it, but that is a lot of ifs, especially the part about getting the chips to work together without crossfire related problems.
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Zero VGS posted:Looks like AMD is getting ready to do that thing where they stick chips together into one big chip: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/amd-accidentally-lists-radeon-rx-490-on-website/ How are 2 480s going to compare to a GTX 1070 though? I can't see 2x480 coming in under $400, in which case it's a direct comparison.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I hate to say it, but that is a lot of ifs, especially the part about getting the chips to work together without crossfire related problems. Yeah, don't know how it would work otherwise. "If AMD could act completely differently than they've shown in the past and has magic GPU doubling tech, they could really have something here!"
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PerrineClostermann posted:So, I just installed my 1070 and ran Firestrike. No, this came up a few pages ago, I didn't realize at the time either but the only score you should look at is the graphics score. The finally score involves physics in two of the three scores which completely depends on your cpu, and you cpu isn't going to remotely compare to test bench cpus in terms of raw physics computing power. Your graphics score is close or exactly in line with what it should be. Unfortunately finding score breakdowns is much less common. The score you see in those graphs are only good relative to each other, assuming they always use scores from the same test setup. Might explain why old card scores will be dropped from those lists if the CPU changed rather than being just "too old", I think people wouldn't mind knowing just how much faster a 1070 is to a 470 or something  but the scores would be useless
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Twerk from Home posted:How are 2 480s going to compare to a GTX 1070 though? I can't see 2x480 coming in under $400, in which case it's a direct comparison. Crossfire 480's are on average slightly faster than the 1070 in games that support CF. But there's a lot of variance there, there are some games with really good CF scaling where the 480's zoom past even a 1080. There's also games with mediocre scaling where a 1070 is as fast or faster. Of course, you also have to take in account the games that have no CF scaling at all. A RX 490, if it is a dual GPU chip, won't act differently than any other previous multi-GPU solution, it'll have all the same problems previous dual GPU cards had. I can't imagine wanting it over a 1070.
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I already wasted my meltdown, if the 490 is actually two 480's on one board im out of words. Even if it were somehow magically just twice the cost of a 480, it sucks. If it costs more (Which it always has sometimes by an insane %) then I mean... (was reading this)
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2x 480 isn't better than a 1080? Are you calling #Roy #Taylor a liar?  https://twitter.com/Roy_techhwood/status/750538545434136576
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