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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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During my spiteread of Wheel of Time (in which men must retake the mastery of the gender-divided world from a hairy coven of man-hating lesbians, and in which cosmic justice is meted out through spankings), I was told to read Sword of Truth next. I'm not falling for that poo poo again.

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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Data Graham posted:

During my spiteread of Wheel of Time (in which men must retake the mastery of the gender-divided world from a hairy coven of man-hating lesbians, and in which cosmic justice is meted out through spankings), I was told to read Sword of Truth next. I'm not falling for that poo poo again.

Sword of Truth is everything you hate about Wheel of Time but ten times as much and twice as often.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Fathis Munk posted:

There is a let's read of the series going on at the moment https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668845&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

It's baaaaaad. Really loving terrible. I am so happy I bounced off the first book when someone gifted it to me.

That let's read is a pro-click, I'll let it build up some content and spend an evening reading it.

I have to shamefully admit I loved that book when I was a teenager. Not for the libertarian ideologies, I never even noticed them until I was much older. Just that it was a cool and edgy fantasy book, much more violent and dark than boring old Lord of the Rings.

I think the best part is I was recommended to read it in high school by a friend who is also very left-wing and anti-libertarian. I guess teens are just bad at being critical, who knew?

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.

Fashionable Jorts posted:

That let's read is a pro-click, I'll let it build up some content and spend an evening reading it.

I have to shamefully admit I loved that book when I was a teenager. Not for the libertarian ideologies, I never even noticed them until I was much older. Just that it was a cool and edgy fantasy book, much more violent and dark than boring old Lord of the Rings.

I think the best part is I was recommended to read it in high school by a friend who is also very left-wing and anti-libertarian. I guess teens are just bad at being critical, who knew?

I've been a huge reader all my life, but my best friend never had much use for books. However, he told me freshman year of high school that he loving loved the Sword of Truth, that he'd read all the books in middle school. I didn't think about because I knew nothing about them, but a decade later I bought the first one for the Kindle on a whim. I was expecting better-than-average genre fiction.

When I called him to ask him what the gently caress, he was very chagrined. Apparently he had liked them originally because they had a message he had never heard before, and as an idiot middle-schooler that was edgy and interesting enough to make him completely dispense with critical thought. He had figured out how terrible they were shortly after our HS conversation, but never bothered to tell me because that's not really a natural or important conversation topic. He had no idea what libertarianism was when he read them in 7th grade, and the hormone surges from stabbings and hot chicks washed pretty much everything else away.

Thank god, because I love the dude and would hate to drop him, because who the gently caress wants to be friends with an adult fan of the Sword of Truth.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Data Graham posted:

Wheel of Time (in which men must retake the mastery of the gender-divided world from a hairy coven of man-hating lesbians, and in which cosmic justice is meted out through spankings)

I don't really know anything about Wheel of Time but :eyepop:

Darkhold
Feb 19, 2011

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Chomp8645 posted:

I don't really know anything about Wheel of Time but :eyepop:
Eh there's stuff in those books that are questionable but he's really taking the dimmest view possible of them.

Sword of Truth on the other hand makes anything in the Wheel of Time look like total bush league. It really is an experience reading the series.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Darkhold posted:

Eh there's stuff in those books that are questionable but he's really taking the dimmest view possible of them.

Sword of Truth on the other hand makes anything in the Wheel of Time look like total bush league. It really is an experience reading the series.

Yea the books have some wonky gender politics, but it's more written by a clueless old dude then being actively horribly misogynist.

Like you could even argue the books have a vaguely feminist if extremely clumsily handled slant to them.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Ambitious Spider posted:

Yea the books have some wonky gender politics, but it's more written by a clueless old dude then being actively horribly misogynist.

Like you could even argue the books have a vaguely feminist if extremely clumsily handled slant to them.

I'll grant that it was probably a whole lot more welcome in the 90s, and I picked a particularly bad year to pick it up. It's just that, perhaps by an accident of history, the universe concept feels like exactly the kind of thing a Gamergater or one of those Return of Kings people would come up with.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!


Hrm....open carrying an absurd weapon during a racially charged protest. Would could go wr.....OH THAT. THAT COULD GO WRONG. EXACTLY THAT COULD GO WRONG.

That70sHeidi
Aug 16, 2009

Postal Parcel posted:

Wait, what happened here? At first it sounded like they were coming together(though it sounded like GREEN was trying to do some one upmanship but not completely off topic) but then after RED comes back she's pissed and called(I'm guessing) a reverse racist. I really need to know what happened on her wall for this to happen.

I went to green's profile but we're not friends and I couldn't see what she posted. However, I can say I know maroon pretty well and for her to get pissed off takes a lot, so I'm sure it was something about All Lives Matter trying to co-opt from all the black folk being killed.

Which, incidentally, I have blocked my entire Newsfeed using Facebook Purity (extension?). I already used it to customize what I want to see on FB, but right now I need a goddamn break from the racism and reverse racism and double reverse no-give-backs racism. I still see news on the right and my games and communities on the left, but the middle column of bullshit posts is gone for a few days. Bliss.


















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Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.


That seems like such a "nice guy" thing to post.

trapped mouse
May 25, 2008

by Azathoth

Maker Of Shoes posted:



Hrm....open carrying an absurd weapon during a racially charged protest. Would could go wr.....OH THAT. THAT COULD GO WRONG. EXACTLY THAT COULD GO WRONG.

Lmao at trying to make Mark Hughes on their side of the politics. Actually listen to the guy himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X78hoKSXAcQ

Once he was in custody, he described how the cops were immediately lying to him, saying that they had footage of him shooting his gun, and that they had witnesses saying the same thing, and they have still refused to apologize for any of it. This was while being fully cooperative. It doesn't say anything about good guy or bad guy with a gun, it just says you're not allowed to be a black man with a gun.

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

Maker Of Shoes posted:



Hrm....open carrying an absurd weapon during a racially charged protest. Would could go wr.....OH THAT. THAT COULD GO WRONG. EXACTLY THAT COULD GO WRONG.

Why didn't he immediately take out all the Bad Guy Gun Nuts, like Good Guy Gun Nuts are supposed to?

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Fathis Munk posted:

There is a let's read of the series going on at the moment https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668845&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

It's baaaaaad. Really loving terrible. I am so happy I bounced off the first book when someone gifted it to me.

711 posts since I last read it. I'm in for a treat.

I'm another person who read a bunch of them while young and indiscriminate and god drat they are just the worst.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

trapped mouse posted:

Lmao at trying to make Mark Hughes on their side of the politics. Actually listen to the guy himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X78hoKSXAcQ

Once he was in custody, he described how the cops were immediately lying to him, saying that they had footage of him shooting his gun, and that they had witnesses saying the same thing, and they have still refused to apologize for any of it. This was while being fully cooperative. It doesn't say anything about good guy or bad guy with a gun, it just says you're not allowed to be a black man with a gun.

Also, black people have a history of open carrying rifles and shotguns where legal as a protest against police brutality. The Black Panthers made it famous, but it still happens today. And unlike white rednecks walking into Chipotle with a Tapco-covered SKS to pose, they have a political purpose more realistic than "Scare pansy liberals by waving guns at them."

White guys open carrying is usually an extended "I'm not touching you". Black guys doing it is "Stop loving killing us for no reason."

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Isn't that the series where the protagonist cuts off the heads of protesting pacifists and it's portrayed as unambiguously good?

Darkhold
Feb 19, 2011

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No Soul👻
No Service🙅

Regalingualius posted:

Isn't that the series where the protagonist cuts off the heads of protesting pacifists and it's portrayed as unambiguously good?
Yes. He also kicks a little girl in the jaw so hard it shatters all her teeth and severs her tongue. This is also a good thing. Really you could make a post listing 50 things that if you didn't know he was the 'hero' you'd assume I was talking about a villain.

In the first book of the series the First Wizard gives the hero a lecture about how evil is a matter of perspective and that if you're not careful you can be as evil as those you fight. I always thought the series would have been interesting if at the end they looked back and realised they were villains they were just fighting men even eviler than they were.

Sadly that is not what happens. All of the horrible things they do often for little to no reason is always treated as justified as the libertarian superman just fighting the good fight against communists.

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

also the authors fetishes are all over the place. at least in the two books i read.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Also evil fantasy Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Re: open carry, wasn't it the oathkeepers that had a schism because some of them were supportive of black open carry guys during Ferguson?

Magnus Manfist
Mar 10, 2013

Attitude Indicator posted:

also the authors fetishes are all over the place. at least in the two books i read.

I used to read a lot of fantasy and I remember I picked up one book and the main character had something really painful happen to her boobs while she had to stay quiet maybe four or five times. Like a magic amulet heating up on her chest but she couldn't move it or scream because she was hiding from some dude, getting bitten on the titty by some big insect while hiding from a different dude, a third dude I think threatening to chop them off or something. Real loving specific, just...again and again.

Can't remember what it was called but it was a fantasy series so there was probably like nine books of The Nippletwister Saga: Shadows of Midnight: Chronicles of Getting Your Tits Bit Off

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Magnus Manfist posted:

I used to read a lot of fantasy and I remember I picked up one book and the main character had something really painful happen to her boobs while she had to stay quiet maybe four or five times. Like a magic amulet heating up on her chest but she couldn't move it or scream because she was hiding from some dude, getting bitten on the titty by some big insect while hiding from a different dude, a third dude I think threatening to chop them off or something. Real loving specific, just...again and again.

Can't remember what it was called but it was a fantasy series so there was probably like nine books of The Nippletwister Saga: Shadows of Midnight: Chronicles of Getting Your Tits Bit Off

That's on like page 3 of that let's read thread; it's what happens the first time they meet one of their universe's orcs (only it's that they're getting bit on the neck by flies but they can't move or swat them because then they'll be seen)

So I guess what you're saying is that this happens a lot in that series, which I guess means Goodkind's way-too-specific fetish is about immobilization

DrWrestling69
Feb 4, 2008

Tracyanne...

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Somewhere, someone is making a post reminding their friends that they've CLEARLY posted the special guidelines for how to deal with an introvert like themselves, and would appreciate it those rules would be followed to a T.

The rules were in webcomic form

Nameless_Steve
Oct 18, 2010

by Pragmatica
e: Wait what the hell how did I get in this thread

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

Attitude Indicator posted:

also the authors fetishes are all over the place. at least in the two books i read.

And who could forget, the chicken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTIEiezVu2I

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Nameless_Steve posted:

e: Wait what the hell how did I get in this thread

The PYF Vortex easily claims another victim.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Fathis Munk posted:

Also evil fantasy Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Re: open carry, wasn't it the oathkeepers that had a schism because some of them were supportive of black open carry guys during Ferguson?

Yeah. Some of them hated the police brutality more than they hated black people, so they volunteered to defend black businesses from looters and march with the protesters.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010









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take me you ANIMAL
Nov 28, 2002

Congrats big boy

Samfucius posted:

loving Sword of Truth poo poo.

I used to read fantasy series and was recommend this shortly before a float so picked up the series on a recommendation. I made it through the first book and half of the second before I just dumped that poo poo into the ships library. It was such poo poo. And I even enjoyed Wheel of Time if it is a ton long winded with some books having nothing going on and the entire misogyny thing. After that I picked up The Malazan Book of the Fallen series for my next float and really enjoyed it. It had strong characters, great world building, and no weird fetish poo poo in it. It's easily my favorite of the 5+ book fantasy genre and has more to do with politics and war strategy than rape and torture. Well, except for the fallen god. But seriously, all that rape and torture poo poo, no wonder military poo poo people recommended it to me.

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost
I'm currently in Italy in my honeymoon, and I made the mistake of scrolling FB while lying in bed last night. Fuuuuuck.

The wife and I decided that getting visas and just living here may be a better option than returning to the states. Can we claim asylum because of loving racist idiots?

... Seriously though, the US is hosed.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

trapped mouse posted:

Lmao at trying to make Mark Hughes on their side of the politics. Actually listen to the guy himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X78hoKSXAcQ

I wish we lived in a world where this was a surprise to me.

Mince Pieface
Feb 1, 2006

This guy works in a position of power at my workplace :stare:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zipperelli. posted:

I'm currently in Italy in my honeymoon, and I made the mistake of scrolling FB while lying in bed last night. Fuuuuuck.

The wife and I decided that getting visas and just living here may be a better option than returning to the states. Can we claim asylum because of loving racist idiots?

... Seriously though, the US is hosed.

Italy put Silvio Berlusconi in power and has its own far-right groups. Don't assume Europe is a bastion of liberal freedom and racial harmony.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Zipperelli. posted:

I'm currently in Italy in my honeymoon, and I made the mistake of scrolling FB while lying in bed last night. Fuuuuuck.

The wife and I decided that getting visas and just living here may be a better option than returning to the states. Can we claim asylum because of loving racist idiots?

... Seriously though, the US is hosed.

Europe is losing its poo poo over refugees. The US ain't all that bad, to be honest.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

chitoryu12 posted:

Italy put Silvio Berlusconi in power and has its own far-right groups. Don't assume Europe is a bastion of liberal freedom and racial harmony.

Uh excuse me but here in Socialist Euromoonland we have no guns and all the welfare. :colbert:

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Oct 30, 2009

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Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Have you guys considered staging a coup of Sealand?

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Mince Pieface posted:

This guy works in a position of power at my workplace :stare:



Because It's the TRUTH and our country is a "Free" Country Karen- amendment #1!

Perry Normal
Jul 23, 2010

Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011


chitoryu12 posted:

Italy put Silvio Berlusconi in power and has its own far-right groups. Don't assume Europe is a bastion of liberal freedom and racial harmony.
The hilarious/horrible thing is that when it comes to the issue of race America has already finished conversations that haven't even begun in much of Europe, rather less been dealt with.

It's about the only part, societal wise, where you are actually somewhat advanced compared to the rest of the west.

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Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Lmao yeah, I remember MLK's famous "I have a dream that someday we will live in a nation where black people will stop blaming white people for their problems" speech

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