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It's really interesting how sometimes the Church sticks multiple US states together, sometimes has one area per state, and then sometimes completely breaks from state borders.
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fishmech posted:It's really interesting how sometimes the Church sticks multiple US states together, sometimes has one area per state, and then sometimes completely breaks from state borders. Here's a map with the individual dioceses visible, do they generally stick to county borders too? e: I just noticed that Orange county had its own diocese and looked it up, it has over a million Catholics I know Orange as consistently voting Republican, but apparently it's really densely populated, how come? e2: in that urban areas normally tend Democrat. Is it literally just suburbs or what? System Metternich fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jul 7, 2016 |
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System Metternich posted:
What is with: The orange area south of Maine And the Texas split between the Triangle and the Uninhabited Hellscape?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:What is with: Otherwise known as Connecticut? Yeah, that state is a bit of a mystery to everyone.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:What is with: its just a map of catholic density in the us more or less. texas and the southwest has tons of mexican-americans, mexicans, and other latin americans, and they tend to be heavily catholic
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OddObserver posted:Otherwise known as Connecticut? Yeah, that state is a bit of a mystery to everyone.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:What is with: Virtually all Catholic dioceses are part of larger "church provinces", headed by an archbishop (sometimes also called "metropolitan bishop"; the other bishops in a province are called "suffragan bishops"). In most cases this is merely ceremonial, though. The orange area is the church province covering Connecticut, led by the Archbishop of Hartford. The Texas split is simply because a single metropolitan shouldn't have too many suffragan bishops at once; it may also be a relict of westward colonisation? I dunno
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i see the maps for the papist takeover of america have already been drawn.
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Kurtofan posted:i see the maps for the papist takeover of america have already been drawn. Now to stage 2: Issuing the crocodile mitres.
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System Metternich posted:e: I just noticed that Orange county had its own diocese and looked it up, it has over a million Catholics I know Orange as consistently voting Republican, but apparently it's really densely populated, how come? Yeah, Orange County is pretty much just wealthy LA suburbs. Suburban counties in general tend to vote heavily Republican in the US once you leave the Northeast.
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HorseRenoir posted:Yeah, Orange County is pretty much just wealthy LA suburbs. Suburban counties in general tend to vote heavily Republican in the US once you leave the Northeast. orange county also has tons of more downscale mexicans and vietnamese (who probably form a huge chunk of the county's catholic population)
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System Metternich posted:
Some of those stick well to county lines, others ignore them entirely. No consistency - and of the ones I compared against they don't seem to conform to historical county or even colony boundaries all that well. I also find it quite funny that the state of Delaware just gets completely lumped in with eastern Maryland for diocese purposes. Seems to be the only state that doesn't have a diocese of its own, although the diocese covering it is in fact headquartered in the state.
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steinrokkan posted:China has been subject to active missionary efforts, and those administrative districts are based on missionary organisation whenever there are no historical dioceses. I think they mostly map to the actual provinces in the region too.
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Related:
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Mike the TV posted:Related: What's up with the four corners being a 3/4 circle?
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Ron Jeremy posted:What's up with the four corners being a 3/4 circle? I'm not sure the exact reasoning, but it's the Navajoland Area Mission.
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Is it Mormons?
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Ofaloaf posted:Is it Mormons? Episcopalians. e: for any non-Americans, that's what Anglicans call themselves here Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Badger of Basra posted:Episcopalians. Isn't there a split now over ordaining gay people?
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Shbobdb posted:Hong Xiuquan who lead the Taiping Rebellion and claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus. He was a pretty interesting figure, especially since his understanding of Christianity came from proselytizing tracts. This is one of those "probably bullshit" "according to tradition" stories, but it's one that's at least contemporary with Hong: The story goes that horrified Westerners would send him lists of Bible verses emphasizing Jesus was God's "Only begotten son," and Hong would send the verses back with the word "only" crossed out.
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Play posted:Who's that in your avatar? Hunter Pence, crazy eyed king of San Francisco & AT&T Park
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Ron Jeremy posted:Isn't there a split now over ordaining gay people? That, and women's ordination, mostly. It's only a comparatively small bunch of dioceses and parishes in the States that have either joined more conservative provinces or left the Church altogether, the real problem is in the Global South which is way more conservative than the vast majority of of Anglicans/Episcopalians in Europe and North America.
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System Metternich posted:
This is basically Catholic population density.jpg. Look at the size of the dioceses in the North, which got wave after wave of Catholic imagrants from Italy, Ireland, and Quebec, to the South which basically had no voluntary imagration after the origenal english settlers until post WW2.
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Vorpal Cat posted:to the South which basically had no voluntary imagration after the origenal english settlers until post WW2. That's basically only true for the old south, Georgia and the Carolinas. Mississippi, Alabama, etc. weren't even heavily settled until TL;DR plenty of people moved into the South. EDIT: 1850 census: Texas' population ~212k. 1860 census: Texas' population ~604k. 1870 census: Texas' population ~818k. 1880 census: Texas' population ~1.59 million. It was a major immigration magnet. Patter Song fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jul 8, 2016 |
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Vorpal Cat posted:This is basically Catholic population density.jpg. Look at the size of the dioceses in the North, which got wave after wave of Catholic imagrants from Italy, Ireland, and Quebec, to the South which basically had no voluntary imagration after the origenal english settlers until post WW2. It really doesn't map with population density of Catholics well at all. If it did, there would be way more variance.
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Patter Song posted:That's basically only true for the old south, Georgia and the Carolinas. Mississippi, Alabama, etc. weren't even heavily settled until I've been told many times by Texans that Texas isn't the south. Texas is Texas.
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System Metternich posted:That, and women's ordination, mostly. It's only a comparatively small bunch of dioceses and parishes in the States that have either joined more conservative provinces or left the Church altogether, the real problem is in the Global South which is way more conservative than the vast majority of of Anglicans/Episcopalians in Europe and North America. I love the Archbishop of Canterbury's eventual proposed and accepted solution. "Okay, how about you guys temporarily join the archdioceses of Uganda and Nigeria while we sort the administrative details out, and also we will refer the question of sodomite marriage to committee for the next four centuries while everyone does what they feel like doing." Anglicanism akbar. The upshot is that my father was under the authority of the Archbishop of Nigeria for a while.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I've been told many times by Texans that Texas isn't the south. Texas is Texas. Texas is Mexico. They even share two letters.
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Texas is cowboy yeehah big hat big gun big gut, right?
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Ron Jeremy posted:I've been told many times by Texans that Texas isn't the south. Texas is Texas. Fair enough, but New Orleans sure as hell is "the South" and it was a pretty vibrant place throughout the 19th century. For whatever reason, people seem to forget that one of America's most important ports, a critical city to the entire economy of everything west of the Atlantic seaboard, is in the Deep South.
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OddObserver posted:Otherwise known as Connecticut? Yeah, that state is a bit of a mystery to everyone. And Rhode Island which everyone forgets because it's so tiny.
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Patter Song posted:Fair enough, but New Orleans sure as hell is "the South" and it was a pretty vibrant place throughout the 19th century. For whatever reason, people seem to forget that one of America's most important ports, a critical city to the entire economy of everything west of the Atlantic seaboard, is in the Deep South. It's all the Frenchness.
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doverhog posted:Texas is cowboy yeehah big hat big gun big gut, right? Yeah that's the one.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I've been told many times by Texans that Texas isn't the south. Texas is Texas. As a Southerner, I agree with your Texans.
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Patter Song posted:Fair enough, but New Orleans sure as hell is "the South" and it was a pretty vibrant place throughout the 19th century. For whatever reason, people seem to forget that one of America's most important ports, a critical city to the entire economy of everything west of the Atlantic seaboard, is in the Deep South. New Orleans also spent many decades as in the top 5 cities by population in the country - at its height it was 3rd after New York City and Philadelphia
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There's so much to go with here, but I think I'm the rad gigantic submarine serving as the national capital
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"Made in USA"
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I love how you can tell the exact spot where the mapmaker was like "okay, gently caress this".
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New England is a tumor
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