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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kenney-harper-support-1.3671651

quote:

Jason Kenney says he has Stephen Harper's support in uniting Alberta's right
'He believes it’s important to unite free-enterprise Albertans to get this province back on the right track'

Jason Kenney says his Alberta PC leadership aspiration — which involves reuniting the province's fractured right — comes with the support of his old boss Stephen Harper.

"You know I have discussed this with him and he, I shouldn't probably discuss our private conversations ... he's encouraged me to offer myself in either the provincial or federal leadership," Kenney told CBC Calgary News at 6 on Friday.

"He believes, I think, it's important to unite free enterprise Albertans to get this province back on the right track."

Kenney announced Wednesday his intention to run for the leadership of the struggling Alberta Progressive Conservative party, prompting an outpouring of support and opposition.

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation criticized Kenney's decision not to take an unpaid leave of absence from his position as a federal MP, while trying to woo Alberta conservatives over the summer.

"It's not appropriate for taxpayers to be paying for someone to campaign for a different job," Aaron Wudrick, a director with the federation, said.

There is no requirement for Kenney to step down or take leave and there is recent precedent for a member of Parliament staying in office while campaigning for a provincial leadership. In 2014, former Conservative MP Patrick Brown announced he would seek the Ontario PC leadership. He didn't resign his seat in the House of Commons until after he won the leadership.

Kenney, despite strong endorsements from many conservatives — both federal and provincial — faces opposition by some who say he is too far to the right on social issues.

Earlier this week NDP MLA Marie Renaud challenged Kenney to state his position on abortion.

"My position is consistent since I first ran for Parliament in 1997. I believe in the value of human life and I apply it to capital punishment and all bioethical questions, but in my 20 years in Parliament I haven't given a speech about this, let alone proposed a motion or a bill," Kenney told CBC News Thursday.

But in 2012, when he was the immigration minister, Kenney defied the wishes of then-prime minister Stephen Harper and supported a motion to set up a parliamentary committee to study when life begins.

Critics said the motion, defeated 203-91, was an excuse to reopen the debate on abortion in Canada and set limits on the procedure.

Another hurdle Kenney will face is the fact that not everyone agrees the right needs to be united or what that merger will look like.

When asked if he would run as an MLA if his leadership ambitions didn't pan out, he offered a qualified yes.

"I would certainly be open to that, but ... here is a new beginning for the free enterprise political forces in Alberta. I am not sure that things are going to be locked into this division. I hope they won't be," he said.

"I am not interested in running for the leadership of one of the two current centre-right parties. I am interesting in bringing them together and other like-minded Albertans."
i'd be totally willing to give up abortion for free enterprise

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Imagine how many problems would've been solved if Jason Kenney's mother had got an abortion. The world would be a better place for it.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Ikantski posted:

I like how the rumor turned from buying them drinks to sneaking them in and getting them blackout. One of you guys should just post the whole story.

It was reported on, although I don't remember by whom. It was an unsubstantiated allegation from a teenage girl who had subsequently been busted for being publicly intoxicated IIRC. If someone has archives and search they should be able to find the link posted in the previous edition of this thread.

When I say it's down the memory hole, I mean it's gone. Either it never happened and we fabricated the whole thing or there's no easily searchable articles on the event with the name Patrick Brown in them any more.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

namaste faggots posted:

But in 2012, when he was the immigration minister, Kenney defied the wishes of then-prime minister Stephen Harper and supported a motion to set up a parliamentary committee to study when life begins.

Wow, there aren't too many situations where defying the wishes of Stephen Harper makes you look like a bigger idiot, but he managed to find one.

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
Have they begun Canonizing Herper a la Reagan? Dear god

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben
PM Duckface, PM Ads, PM Herpes and PM Selfie.

God I, ... something this country.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Ikantski posted:

I like Yakabuski provincially. If there is some supremely unlikely ONDP surge, I'd vote for them too, ABL.

I like how the rumor turned from buying them drinks to sneaking them in and getting them blackout. One of you guys should just post the whole story.

Yakabuski is the one saving grace for the cons in Renfrew county by virtue of being a decent human being while our mp is a raving lunatic.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
The NDP has a lot of problems but Cheri DiNovo is not one of them. I hope she wins, but I doubt she will.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Di Novo isn't actually running because she didn't feel like paying the $30,000 entry fee (the race Mulcair won had a $15,000 entry fee, the race Layton won had a $7,500 entry fee). So she's just doing a symbolic candidacy to raise awareness, not a real run for leadership.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/welcome-to-the-country/article30820904/

This is a genuinely heartwarming story about mennos in Altona helping settle Syrian refugees. Great article and I felt that there was hope for canadians.

Then you read the comments.



and then you realize canadians all need to be exterminated

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
Eliminate all online commentators imo especially this thread

mik
Oct 16, 2003
oh
:ironicat:

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/welcome-to-the-country/article30820904/

This is a genuinely heartwarming story about mennos in Altona helping settle Syrian refugees. Great article and I felt that there was hope for canadians.

Then you read the comments.

and then you realize canadians all need to be exterminated

Just people that read and comment on the globe and mail and any other news papers.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

The CPC trying to rally their base around their natural allies, organized labour. In solidarity, we march together.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

apatheticman posted:

Just people that read and comment on the globe and mail and any other news papers.

That's where you're wrong. It's really easy to imagine a utopian canada from the comfy confines of your university dorm while you complete your BA in gender arts but the majority of canadians are debt slaves living in the misery of declining wages and expanding unemployment pit of hell, wondering where they're going to move to when they default on their missisauga mcmansion, atv, bmw, boat, and cottage. These people are easily tweaked by any threat no matter how irrational, especially when their PM is completely unrelatable. Good looking, university educated, young and rich. It's just a lot easier to hate muslims and watch hockey.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

No, you need a bigger ironicat for that. A weapons grade ironicat.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

namaste faggots posted:

That's where you're wrong. It's really easy to imagine a utopian canada from the comfy confines of your university dorm while you complete your BA in gender arts but the majority of canadians are debt slaves living in the misery of declining wages and expanding unemployment pit of hell, wondering where they're going to move to when they default on their missisauga mcmansion, atv, bmw, boat, and cottage. These people are easily tweaked by any threat no matter how irrational, especially when their PM is completely unrelatable. Good looking, university educated, young and rich. It's just a lot easier to hate muslims and watch hockey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkci85pi_oI

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

namaste faggots posted:

That's where you're wrong. It's really easy to imagine a utopian canada from the comfy confines of your university dorm while you complete your BA in gender arts but the majority of canadians are debt slaves living in the misery of declining wages and expanding unemployment pit of hell, wondering where they're going to move to when they default on their missisauga mcmansion, atv, bmw, boat, and cottage. These people are easily tweaked by any threat no matter how irrational, especially when their PM is completely unrelatable. Good looking, university educated, young and rich. It's just a lot easier to hate muslims and watch hockey.

Do you really think this makes Canada all that distinct from the rest of the anglosphere though? This just seems to be what happens when a formerly all powerful protestant culture slams headfirst into the reality of perpetually falling living standards.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Not at all. Canadians are just really good at convincing themselves they're better than everyone else.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
B-b-but our healthcare :negative:

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
Ci and Helsing are slowly merging into a gestalt entity

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
No, I'm the most cynical!!

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Sep 9, 2022

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I hope he announces that he's going to run against Jason Kenney for leadership of the Alberta PC party.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Sep 9, 2022

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



It's okay, Uber drivers now have insurance in Alberta and Ontario:

quote:

Uber drivers in two Canadian provinces are now insured, as Ontario joins Alberta in approving coverage that extends from when the app is turned on to when passengers exit the vehicle.

Ontario’s insurance regulator announced Thursday that it has approved a policy from Intact Financial Corp. for private vehicles transporting paying passengers through the ride-hailing service.

Last week, Intact began offering coverage for Uber drivers in Alberta and both companies are working with Quebec to get similar insurance in place.

“This new ride-sharing insurance approved by (the Financial Services Commission of Ontario) should serve as a practical solution designed for ride-sharing,” Uber Canada’s general manager, Ian Black, said in a statement.

“Both (Intact) and Uber remain engaged with regulators across Canada to bring new ride-sharing insurance policies that offer a smart, seamless and simple solution for driver-partners.”

The Financial Services Commission of Ontario said the “blanket fleet coverage” addresses a “critical insurance gap” for the industry.

CEO Brian Mills said in a bulletin posted to the regulator’s website that he anticipates new insurance policies that build on what has been approved for Intact will be filed in the future.

“Going forward, I want to emphasize that the sharing economy in general, and the automobile insurance implications in particular, will continue to evolve and will require innovative solutions and responses by all stakeholders, including FSCO, that respond to technological advances,” Mills wrote.

At the same time, I want to emphasize that approved solutions may also need to evolve and adapt as circumstances and legal requirements change. Therefore, any policy form or endorsement that I approve is also subject to ongoing review.”

Uber operates in more than 40 municipalities in Ontario, including the Greater Toronto Area, Hamilton, London, Windsor, St. Catharines, Kitchener, and Kingston.

The new policy covers all Uber drivers, passengers and vehicle owners when Uber is in use, and when the app is off the vehicle owner’s personal auto insurance policy applies.

The Ontario government approved a regulatory change under the Insurance Act to allow insurance companies to develop commercial fleet insurance policies for ride-hailing companies.

It says the regulatory change is an interim measure while the province works with FSCO and the insurance industry “to modernize the auto insurance system to develop a permanent solution for emerging transportation services.”

The Liberal government doesn’t appear keen to pass a private member’s bill from Progressive Conservative Tim Hudak to regulate Uber, Airbnb and other services in the so-called sharing economy. The bill passed second reading in last fall but has yet to go before committee to be studied.

But the government has set up a sharing economy advisory committee to look at policy, regulatory and legislative challenges associated with the emerging industry.

The Intact policy provides coverage that includes statutory accident benefits, uninsured motorist coverage and third-party liability of up to $1 million while the app is in use but no ride has been accepted and $2 million after a ride has been accepted.

For collision and comprehensive coverage to apply, the vehicle owner must be covered in that way under their personal policy.

Liberalism 101: When faced with a innovative new "technology" from barons of industry that just happens to erode workers' rights and public safety, give in to their demands entirely while giving a toothless finger wag and promising to have a committee study the consequences of your decision long after the fact. (Also blame John Tory for his equally meek acquiescence to Uber in Toronto).

Also spotted in Munich:



Look, Germans can be bothered to protest free trade agreements with Canada.

Fluffy Chainsaw
Jul 6, 2016

I'm likely a pissant middle manager who pisses off IT with worthless requests. There is no content within my posts other than a garbage act akin to a know-it-all, which likely is how I behave in real life. It's really hard for me to comprehend how much I am hated by everyone.

eXXon posted:

It's okay, Uber drivers now have insurance in Alberta and Ontario:


Liberalism 101: When faced with a innovative new "technology" from barons of industry that just happens to erode workers' rights and public safety, give in to their demands entirely while giving a toothless finger wag and promising to have a committee study the consequences of your decision long after the fact. (Also blame John Tory for his equally meek acquiescence to Uber in Toronto).



You should like a longshoreman who can't believe that the dock has the audacity to use cranes to unload ships.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

You should like a longshoreman who can't believe that the dock has the audacity to use cranes to unload ships.

The analogy is more like the dock has started assembling cranes out of longshoremen while also canceling their health insurance.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
If the drivers are carrying the proper insurance and the drivers have a commercial license, both things which I think are now the case for rideshare drivers in Alberta and possibly Ontario, where exactly is the risk to public safety, eXXon?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
lmao i don't even give a gently caress if uber start enslaving drivers. gently caress the taxi industry so hard and gently caress taxi drivers

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

PT6A posted:

If the drivers are carrying the proper insurance and the drivers have a commercial license, both things which I think are now the case for rideshare drivers in Alberta and possibly Ontario, where exactly is the risk to public safety, eXXon?

Now we're just down to exploitative labour practices that move the entire cost of operating to the "contractor", who can't set their rates.

So UberX will at least be a legal way to convert the value of your car into sub-minimum wage income.

Edit: And all they had to do to get there was ignore the law and operate illegally for two years.

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jul 10, 2016

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
maybe when they're slaving away they can think about the last oh 100 years they spent ripping their customers off

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
I don't know where this idiotic dichotomy of "You point out how Uber is bad so you must love cabs" comes from, but it's facile at best.

Uber is poo poo for myriad reasons, regardless of what's wrong with the cab industry.

There are plenty of good ways to start reforming things, Uber and specifically UberX are none of them.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

infernal machines posted:

Uber is poo poo for myriad reasons, regardless of what's wrong with the cab industry.

There are plenty of good ways to start reforming things, Uber and specifically UberX are none of them.

Uber and Lyft are fantastic from the consumer perspective, and destroying an entrenched monopoly in a couple of years (as they've done in several major markets) is no small feat. I'd suggest that they are definitely on to something.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

infernal machines posted:

I don't know where this idiotic dichotomy of "You point out how Uber is bad so you must love cabs" comes from, but it's facile at best.

Uber is poo poo for myriad reasons, regardless of what's wrong with the cab industry.

There are plenty of good ways to start reforming things, Uber and specifically UberX are none of them.

lol gently caress you cab cuck

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ham-radio-maple-ridge-1.3668418

quote:

Ham radio tower frustrates Maple Ridge neighbours

For 10 years, residents of a Maple Ridge neighbourhood have been fighting to have an amateur radio tower taken down, but a coalition of ham enthusiasts says they're providing a valuable service.

The tower's next-door neighbours Al and Evelyn Shkuratomf say it's an intrusive and dangerous eyesore.

They also claim there are no engineering permits or papers to go along with the ham tower, and worry it could come down in a big windstorm or earthquake one day.

"We have this structure overhanging us with really no place to fall except on us," said Evelyn. "It's going to happen at some point in time."

To make matters worse, every time their neighbour starts broadcasting, they start getting strange sounds through their computer speakers from the radio interference, they say.

They've asked him to take it down, but say he has refused. So for ten years, the Shkuratomfs have been writing to Industry Canada in Ottawa for help.

But all they have received so far are generic replies from the faraway federal bureaucrats, with no offers of assistance.

"I've written a total of six or seven letters, pointed out the documentation they've created themselves and pointed out what they can do and what they should be doing and how the structure was built without following their guidelines, but nothing happens," she said.

Fighting from city hall

And it's not just the Shkuratomfs who want to see it taken down.

"It's annoying and it also just seems like an invasion," said Richard Cordes, who also lives in the neighbourhood.

"It's not properly tied down," agreed City Councillor Gordy Robson. "That thing is going to come over one day, and I don't know what the answer is going to be about why we let it stay there."

Robson also says he's heard complaints that it interferes with the 911 service in the area when the operator is broadcasting.

But like the Shkuratomfs, the city has been stonewalled in its efforts to remove it, he says.

"Our staff has taken it to everybody and we cannot find a way to do anything about that monstrosity."

'Don't hate us'

Amateur Radio Coalition co-founder James Fowler calls situations like these "frustrating."

"A lot of people just see it as an annoyance," he said. "That couldn't be further from the truth."

Fowler, who has also battled with his neighbours in Edmonton about his own 15-metre radio tower, admits that amateur radio operators are often "your typical geekier types" who admittedly do use the service to simply chat with people from all over the world.

But he says they also help with emergency situations when other forms of communications aren't available, like wildfires, earthquakes or even Maydays.

"We're not here to piss off the public," Fowler said. "Don't hate us. We're just trying to help."

"They don't realize fully what that amateur could be doing ... For all the neighbours know he could have saved somebody's life out there."

Fowler says the neighbours shouldn't be concerned about the safety of the tall towers.

"It's definitely not unsafe. These towers are built and engineered by professional engineers. They're anchored in such a way to be freestanding and withstand typical B.C. weather, even extreme B.C. weather," he said.

As for sound coming through the neighbour's speakers, Fowler said it's likely because of poor manufacturing that doesn't properly shield them against radio interference and isn't the operator's fault.

And he said there shouldn't be any interference with emergency operators because they work at a different frequency.

"If that was truly the case they would have legal grounds to actually pursue that," Fowler said.

No response from owner or regulators

CBC News emailed the federal government and has not heard back, and the owner of the radio tower also declined to speak to CBC as well.

Meanwhile at city hall, Robson attributes the tower's staying power at least in part to a historical legacy from days when ham radio operators and their towers were considered an important part of critical infrastructure for communities.

"I don't think that's the case anymore, but they use that power to override bylaws, provincial laws and they are their own law." he said.

And while the Shkuratomfs say it's time the tower is taken down, others in the neighbourhood are wondering if there is any hope.

"Nobody likes it, but you sort of feel helpless," said neighbour Jeannie Swanson.

haha MY HOME EQUITY vs some loving sperglord who is going to save everyone with his mad amateur radio skillz when the apocalypse takes out our phones.

Fluffy Chainsaw
Jul 6, 2016

I'm likely a pissant middle manager who pisses off IT with worthless requests. There is no content within my posts other than a garbage act akin to a know-it-all, which likely is how I behave in real life. It's really hard for me to comprehend how much I am hated by everyone.
The odds of me having a worse experience in a licensed cab than I would in a fortnight stay in the ruins of the kowloon walled city are about 70-30. If the taxi industry provided a better experience, I'd be paying them extra for an app that summoned cabs and split fares, not going to some cut-rate grey market internet startup.

namaste faggots posted:

haha MY HOME EQUITY vs some loving sperglord who is going to save everyone with his mad amateur radio skillz when the apocalypse takes out our phones.

Weird that city hall can come down like Thor's hammer on some dude who wants to burn a few leaves in his backyard, but can't do anything about this 1960s Tower of Babel. I blame Big Ham Radio.

Fluffy Chainsaw fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jul 10, 2016

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

The odds of me having a worse experience in a licensed cab than I would in a fortnight stay in the ruins of the kowloon walled city are about 70-30.

It's a park now, I'd say the odds are better than that.

Just because you're coming out on top of yet another race to the bottom doesn't make it a good solution.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ham-radio-maple-ridge-1.3668418


haha MY HOME EQUITY vs some loving sperglord who is going to save everyone with his mad amateur radio skillz when the apocalypse takes out our phones.

It's disappointing that climate change and the combination of low snow pack / early melt are screwing up the Fraser freshet and making it less likely the Lower Fraser will get the flushing it so badly needs.

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P-Value Hack
Apr 4, 2016

PT6A posted:

If the drivers are carrying the proper insurance and the drivers have a commercial license, both things which I think are now the case for rideshare drivers in Alberta and possibly Ontario, where exactly is the risk to public safety, eXXon?

There are other regulations in place for cab drivers that look to public safety or public good. For example, routine maintenance and inspections that are legally mandated, and having access to handicap equipped vehicles.

Quite frankly if Uber's business model can only exist where it exists in a legal loophole, then its a lovely business model relies on pretending its hiring "contractors" to do "ride-sharing" rather than being a cab company with a fancy app loving over its employees.

If Uber can't play ball with standing regulations, then too bad. If you wanna break up the cab monopoly fine, but just because a penguin is black and white, and so is a newspaper, doesn't make a newspaper a penguin. These are different issues.

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