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eclipses are every 216 years, and conveniently enough, they're on an island where they can rip van winkle into the future on the other hand, it would mean that gut's crew would never meet rickert again, and those guys got up to some badass shenanigans
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Phobophilia posted:eclipses are every 216 years, and conveniently enough, they're on an island where they can rip van winkle into the future Yeah, okay, can't have that. Maybe it's a mega eclipse instead, which has never happened before Griffith ain't gonna play by your rules
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Jul 10, 2016 02:19
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It's every 216 years unless the dark priest Shaft interferes
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Jul 10, 2016 02:26
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You need to get the magic glasses from one of the witches so that when you fight Griffith you can see he's being controlled by the dark priest Shaft.
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As I said before, I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better. I think if Casca is healed, there's going to be some really rough tension especially if she remembers everything post eclipse. Guts technically abandoned her, came close to raping her, and it's been a bumpy ride for lack of better terms. I think if Casca is healed, we have a mini arc about her and Guts working things out. After that there's a lot of different threads. I'd like to think that Guts and co would just continue on in safety. I could see a newly reunited Guts and Casca trying to just stay away and keep far from Griffith and Falconia. Guts fighting all the way across the sea just to abandon Casca to go kill Griffith is a huge contrast to the character we've seen develop since the Guts got Casca back. I can see Griffith aggravating the situation and coming directly after Guts, but I do think there's going to have to be something major for Guts to resume his quest to kill Griffith. I know there are also implications that the story is setting up for another Eclipse, and I think Guts does still have the behelit from the count. I think the story ending on a second eclipse gone right isn't a bad idea, but I don't see current Guts bringing it about.
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There is no need for a second eclipse since both Casca and Guts are already outside causality and they can gently caress things up royally for void & co. Which brings me to the thing that interests me the most: the actual objective of the godhand/idea of evil. We do know that they were helped greatly by the weakening of the borders between realities that griffith created but to what end? I don't trust that brain dude one bit, and neither should the other godhand members. e: also, to me it seems that the eclipse is not the catalyst for the weakening of "fate" but the behelits themselves: once you have activated one you're able to actually make a choice outside causality, and puck's behelit is there for a reason. trucutru fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jul 10, 2016 |
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I mean for Griffith, and possibly also for Slann, Ubik, and Conrad, this IS the endgame. Griffith wanted a kingdom, and he's got THE kingdom. The others have carved out their little slices of paradise. Void I could see having a higher goal but until we get the Gaiseric flashback we'll remain in the dark about that. The Idea of Evil technically has yet to be formally returned to the canon, but even if it were I doubt it would have a "goal" per se. It begets suffering, that's kind of it. To that end it empowered 5 individuals who would cause untold suffering.
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I feel like we're gonna get to see what some of the other God Hand have been up to after they leave Elf Island. So like some time around 2025.
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Ubik and Conrad had goals? Do you know where those were shown or discussed specifically? It might have happened after I took a break from the series for a while, but I don't remember them really having anything except maybe one spreading rats and plague in a city I think?
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I was going to mention earlier. What is the motivation for Griffith now? Guts and Griffith have squared off once before and another time by proxy. There is more development needed before I can make any predictions.
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Crabtree posted:Ubik and Conrad had goals? Do you know where those were shown or discussed specifically? It might have happened after I took a break from the series for a while, but I don't remember them really having anything except maybe one spreading rats and plague in a city I think? No I'm saying we have no real idea what they, Slann, or Void might really want, but that I wouldn't be surprised if they and Slann didn't have the same endgame as Griffith: kick back and enjoy your own personal slice of heaven that's been written into Fantasia. Void is the only one I really think has some kind of grand design beyond this. I mean for gently caress's sake, the others you all see hanging out and Griffith of course has his self-insert fanfic, Void just gets a full page shot of a brain (which he might have turned into? Maybe there's a vast, mountain ranged sized brain just sitting around somewhere now?) temple posted:I was going to mention earlier. What is the motivation for Griffith now? Guts and Griffith have squared off once before and another time by proxy. There is more development needed before I can make any predictions.
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TheManSeries posted:As I said before, I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better.... I could see a newly reunited Guts and Casca trying to just stay away and keep far from Griffith and Falconia. Guts fighting all the way across the sea just to abandon Casca to go kill Griffith is a huge contrast to the character we've seen develop since the Guts got Casca back. Behi is right there waiting, and the only person in the party who hasn't evolved out of their despair is Casca.
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Rodyle posted:No I'm saying we have no real idea what they, Slann, or Void might really want, but that I wouldn't be surprised if they and Slann didn't have the same endgame as Griffith: kick back and enjoy your own personal slice of heaven that's been written into Fantasia. Void is the only one I really think has some kind of grand design beyond this. Slaan is the one most likely in it just for the kicks, although I still think she's be interested in Guts using the blue Behlit or maybe doing something else with her. Although I'll agree that Griffith probably already he thinks he's won and Void will probably have something with Skull Knight. It'd be boring if he didn't have some sort of grander religious vision to seek. Either into the devotion of the idea or to bring about his personal vision of God -- if he likely is that religious leader Gaiseric imprisoned.
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Jul 10, 2016 06:35
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I think Griffith is the good guy.
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If the brand attracts demons, how was Casca safe while Guts was out slaying demons? I am forgetting something?
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Crabtree posted:Slaan is the one most likely in it just for the kicks, although I still think she's be interested in Guts using the blue Behlit or maybe doing something else with her. Although I'll agree that Griffith probably already he thinks he's won and Void will probably have something with Skull Knight. It'd be boring if he didn't have some sort of grander religious vision to seek. Either into the devotion of the idea or to bring about his personal vision of God -- if he likely is that religious leader Gaiseric imprisoned. whatever Skull Knight and Void's deal is has to have something do with free will versus causality, they're the two who primarily bring up that poo poo To that end, I really do question how much Griffith really "won" in his meeting with Skull Knight and bringing about Fantasia. The God Hand can manipulate a ton of poo poo and predict things to some degree, but we know from their dialogue with each other and can speculate from certain details in their little Griffith storyline that this isn't absolute. What's more, Skull Knight's sword interests me: when he shows it to Guts, he describes it as a weapon "to entomb them in that chaos," and whatever else you might say about the current situation, the God Hand are no longer untouchable ensconced in the astral world.
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Maera Sior posted:If the brand attracts demons, how was Casca safe while Guts was out slaying demons? I am forgetting something? the mine Erika, Godo, and Rickert kept her in was an elfhome, which warded off evil spirts
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Rodyle posted:the mine Erika, Godo, and Rickert kept her in was an elfhome, which warded off evil spirts Thanks, that was really bugging me.
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temple posted:I was going to mention earlier. What is the motivation for Griffith now? Guts and Griffith have squared off once before and another time by proxy. There is more development needed before I can make any predictions. The same as before. He's just aiming higher. That's his nature. My guess is that he's just being used by Void for some unknown reason.
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Watched episode 2. The pacing made sense compared to the first one, so that's good. However the action scenes were so light on animation frames that it was a slideshow almost. Speaking of that, the show is being animated like a low-budget cel animation show where only lips move while everyone else strikes a pose. This tends to look horrifically wrong in 3D. As a final complaint, all of the head nodding without their spines moving is driving me nuts. Humans can't quite do that from the weight shift alone. Oh well. All of that more or less stopped bothering me for the last 5 minutes until Serpico's reaction and I was sad the episode ended. poo poo was about to get awesome it seemed and I actually just wanted to keep watching. Lowered expectations probably.
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trucutru posted:The same as before. He's just aiming higher. That's his nature. That sounds unlikely, to me... Void is awesome and definitely up to something, but I would be very disappointed if Griffith turns out to be manipulated. Griffith is just not that sort of dude - he's self-determination and ambition personified. I think we're about to hit an extremely interesting point of development for Griffith as well: he's reached the absolute top. Now what? Several rulers we see are devoured by paranoia and loneliness. Griffith will be forced to look at his grand dream, and see what it got him. We already know that he harbours a strong sense of nostalgia: he revives the Band of the Hawk, and he explicitly invites Rickert to join. He doesn't just want to be the absolute king on a mountain of corpses, he wants his buddies as well, and no-one of his current entourage can fill that void: Zodd obeys the prophecy and believes in strength above all; Locus fully identifies with the prophecy; Grunbeld follows out of personal idea of honor; just look at Rakshas; Sonia is batshit insane; I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a gently caress about Charlotte personally (talk about a tragedy in the making...); everybody else is enraptured by the otherworldly prophecy, which Silat explicitly calls out as a potentially terrible idea. I'm not expecting MacBeth-esque levels of guilt, but I believe that starting with Rickert's rejection, he'll start to realize that he will NEVER, EVER truly have his dream fulfilled. He sacrificed the Band of the Hawk. Does that make him feel regret (probably not), or the most spectacular hissy-fit of all time, or something else? It might drive him to drastic actions that trigger the finale. Because right now, both Griffith and Guts might be in a position where they could reasonably leave things as they are - if it weren't for Rickert and Silat... (And Casca, who's obviously a wildcard for now.)
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Well he can always make another sacrifice if he isn't happy with what he has as the offer that was given to the Baron when he was about to die to Guts. Unfortunately for Griffith, all he has left offer is - well - Falconia. And what I saw of episode 2 seemed a bit better than last time, but the action felt very slugish and I was hoping there was more of those detailed art panels we got with crazy girl whipping herself or guts grinning like a bastard. Nice set up for monsters to start popping up in 3, but a real cock tease playing a bit of Hirasawa song at the end.
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Crabtree posted:Unfortunately for Griffith, all he has left offer is - well - Falconia. I don't think we're ever going to get to a point where the animation is good, but sticking closely to the manga and trying to hit the iconic parts is about their best course of action and they're not doing great on either front, even if episode 2 is a big improvement on the first.
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Rodyle posted:the mine Erika, Godo, and Rickert kept her in was an elfhome, which warded off evil spirts Her and Guts' child was shown to be protecting her as well - that was before it went into the egg, though.
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There was also that one scene where she flipped out and killed a bunch of dudes off screen, showing that she is still capable of defending herself sometimes.
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X, X, Y. X, X, Y. x50 Run to next mob group. X, X, Y.
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Congrats you figured out how Musou games work, well done
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sonia's pretty cool imo, she's better described as fey and willful
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Yeah Sonia isn't crazy exactly, more like bratty.
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Musou games (on the whole) are not bad at all and if you can't enjoy them, I am sorry for you. That said this one better be more like dragon quest warriors/ hyrule warriors than the abominable Kens Rage.
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The weakest part of the games (for me) is usually the environment design so I'm hoping it's gonna get mixed up a bit.
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muike posted:The weakest part of the games (for me) is usually the environment design so I'm hoping it's gonna get mixed up a bit. Grey forests and brown wastelands is all that you will get
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and I thought the animation in DBZ Super was bad...
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i enjoyed the 2nd episode more than the 1st
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Phobophilia posted:i hope lucca is super cool I don't think it's possible for them to screw up Lucca, she doesn't even need great animation. But if she and her posse get cut, then I'll be done with this poo poo.
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ANIME AKBAR posted:I don't think it's possible for them to screw up Lucca, she doesn't even need great animation. God, it's hard to imagine but I guess they could just speed the whole thing up to a crazy extent. Like, Guts and Farnesse arrive at the tower, that night the egg apostle meets the baby, then the ritual of incarnation happens and Guts meets up with Casca again in the aftermath. They already skipped the whole Lost Children arc, anything is possible!
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They've already announced VAs for Luka and Nina, so don't worry. They're in the series to some capacity. I don't know how I'm going to feel about the inevitable nippleless pagan orgies in the uncanny valley.
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I started reading Berserk a month or so ago on a whim. Mostly because I finished Dark Souls 3 and was looking for a dark fantasy filler before the DLC came out and I had always heard how much FROM cribbed from Berserk in terms of art design. It's been really neat to spot all the inspiration the Dark Souls games took from the comics, but I didn't expect to get so gripped by the characters and the world. I'm up to the first few chapters of the Falcon of the Millennium Empire arc and it just keeps getting more and more heartbreaking and enthralling and oh my god I hate Griffith so much. I hope he gets what's coming to him because I have never hated an antagonist like I hate Griffith. I want Guts and Casca to live happily ever after at that blacksmith's house and also for her to stop getting raped so much because it's just getting ridiculous now.
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