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Bufuman posted:Wait, I have an idea now! Take this one (sorry for the tiny image, can't find a better one at the moment), turn Kuzco into Zidane, and label the cookie as "duty" or something.
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Bad Seafood posted:Now we're just delving into the realm of Alexandrian political cartoons. Pee pee doo doo she is a bad queen
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Pee pee doo doo she is a bad queen THOSE FUCKERS OUR poo poo
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AlphaKretin posted:Holy poo poo, your avatar. He's definitely Patrick Warburton. That's not even up for discussion.
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Fister Roboto posted:He's definitely Patrick Warburton. That's not even up for discussion. I dunno, when Robert Z'Dar exists. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0120494/?ref_=tt_cl_t1 The man doesn't even look human, but he sure does look like Steiner. Edit: oh wait, he's dead.
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This is from a long time ago but an interesting callback to Dali is when Steiner and Dagger are crossing the gate with Dagger hiding in the pickles. When Zidane and Dagger are waiting on Vivi/Steiner in Dali, Zidane mentions his plan for crossing the South Gate involves hiding Dagger since The Man isn't searching for the rest of them.
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Got ten whole GIFs and another video in the coming update. Hopefully it'll be up in a couple hours, but if not it should be up tomorrow. In the meantime, enjoy another avatar. 
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Bad Seafood posted:Now we're just delving into the realm of Alexandrian political cartoons. every comic has beatrix crying
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Endorph posted:every comic has beatrix crying
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   So last time, Zidane and company finally reached Cleyra, where Freya found the King of Burmecia still alive. After saving a prince from a once-docile antlion because that was a thing that happened in a previous Final Fantasy game, Freya then riverdanced to strengthen the sandstorm protecting Cleyra from harm. Then said sandstorm stopped, exposing Cleyra to potential harm. Also Dagger lost all her summons, notably Odin.   Tell me. Why do you think the sandstorm disappeared? I don't know. I was surprised that there even was a sandstorm. Did you know the sandstorm was here for a thousand years...? And in all that time, it never disappeared, not even once.  Brahne is the logical choice, of course, but...she was a good and noble ruler before. Dagger was kidnapped in the first place because Cid noticed something was off about the old Brahne. Perhaps, as Dagger herself figured out independently, that man accompanying Brahne is the true mastermind here...  That man... I wonder who he was... Zidane, I'm going to head down to find out why the sandstorm disappeared. Hey, I was thinking the same thing! Let's go together. And with that, we have control of Freya. For now, let's catch up with the town.   So a thousand years of protection gone to an end... This certainly does not bode well, as you've probably guessed.   This is no ordinary force we're dealing with. This is someone with powerful magic. Of course, we've seen Brahne have all of Dagger's eidolons extracted from her, but are summons really that powerful?  Actually that's a good question. Just dance it back up again or whatever. I don't think the game actually outright tells you what causes the sandstorm to stop in the first place, though I may have overlooked that somewhere.   I hereby bestow it upon you, in hopes that you may learn to use it. The Emerald is a rare gem, of which I believe you can only obtain three of. It teaches Haste (which no one can actually learn yet), MP +10%, and White Draw, a move for Freya that steals enemy MP and gives that MP to the entire party. It's a random number between 0 and twice the enemy's level minus one, so not that great, plus the move itself is rather expensive, but I guess if your entire party is low on MP I guess it might be worth using? Ethers seem plentiful enough to me anyway, especially if you have Zidane constantly stealing like I do.   You can also loot a few items in this room, though nothing exciting.  Hospitable until the end.    Don't loving say that you know what will loving happen when you loving say that. Also despite being no Biggs and Wedge in this game this is far from the most explicit Star Wars reference in a game built around calling back other games that all have callbacks to Star Wars.   It's funny because the view must be gorgeous now but if you live your entire life wrapped around a sandstorm and suddenly you're exposed and stuff it's kinda hard to appreciate the new view when you could get shanked in a moment's notice.   At least it's a lot quieter... I'm worried! I'm so worried! The only major change in town is Stiltzkin! He's here with more items to buy.  Again, you want to buy from him anyway to get the final reward, and because this is a great deal regardless.  Makes me wonder if he was supposed to be talking to Zidane here, but I guess Freya is still pretty young herself.  This place is so dusty, you know! I can't stand it!   That sounds awful! Kupo!! I'm gonna pack and leave with Stiltzkin!Trouble follows us everywhere.  Alright, let's get going.  I couldn't find Puck... I wonder if he went down the trunk?  This city have very yummy sand! This city delicious. I failed Burmecia... but I won't fail Cleyra, no matter what.   The sand whirlpools have stopped along with the sandstorm, so we can get these chests without incident.  On the way down, we'll be ambushed by pairs of soldiers. Looks like Alexandria's already striking.  They're pretty weak compared to my crazy-overleveled-and-overgeared party though. Once I have Freya equip Man Eater she starts one-shotting these guys. They can cast -ra spells and only have measly Potions as their common steal.  Then another pair...  ...and another. Yawn.  Those Alexandrian villains back there... Weren't they too few in number to constitute a determined attack? While I do appreciate Zidane going gung-ho about killing, he's a pretty tactical guy being a thief and all so I'd imagine he'd have noticed this as well. Yeah, I thought so, too.    Ya gotta come back, please! No! My fears were true!  You heard him! Let's go!   Ha! They fell for it.-----  NOT BURMECIAN SOLDIER DAN! He sold me some neat equipment upgrades! Why couldn't he have gone home and be a family man!?   Also these guys die but who cares about them, Burmecian Soldier Dan is dead.   Are there really that many!? They just keep coming! Right above that second sand waterfall is a blue orb slowly descending. Inside...  Yep, a black mage.   These are Type B's. They have Hi-Potions to steal but are otherwise unremarkable.  Also with Man Eater Freya can one-shot them no problem. Freya's a freaking beast.   Mopli ran to the antlion's den, you may have noticed, so we can save, regroup, and get our mail priorities straightened out.   Over here! Three more soldiers. Yawnfest.  Oh I guess Vivi does waste a trance on these wimps.   Then a fight with two more Type B's. Not even worth covering.  But the town's in trouble!  The Burmecians are fighting back, but the demons keep coming... We fled, unable to resist any longer...   There's a small thing here where you have to tell the civilians the correct way to go so they don't die. I don't think there's really any way to know the right answers ahead of time, but the correct answer here is right.   So we go to the inn area.  No, I sure haven't...  r.i.p. Burmecian Soldier Dan. Now the only father figure they'll have is, I don't know, maybe Quina?   For this one, left is the correct choice because Let's go left! This is for Burmecian Sol-oh they're already dead nevermind.   Which way now!? Right again. Cross the bridge! More soldiers, more deaths.   No more monsters? It'd be nice to tell the kids we're done but we're obviously not. Zidane can be kind and comforting, but he can also be brutally honest.   Of course, it doesn't really reassure the kids with the dead dad.  Huh? What are you guys doing here? We like this place very much. Yeah, I think it's pretty, too. This whole town is pretty. And everyone here is so nice. C'mon, let's head to the cathedral. We can make our stand there! Where is the high priest? Where is the king? Where's dad? Waaa! Alright, everyone inside! Black Mages to the front...  Black Mages to the side...  Black Mages to the back...    FADE TO SILENCE      You shall fall like leaves in the wind under the forces of my blade!  Dunno who you are, but I owe you one!-----   The person who saved us was none other than Sir Fratley, Freya's long-lost love. The one person she's dedicated her entire life to finding, at least until her homeland fell. I have missed you so much... Where have you been all these years...? To what corners of the world have you traveled? I climbed the highest mountains only to hear rumors of your victories... I searched the deepest valleys only to find your footsteps. But I never found you. And in the end, I heard something... Freya, you say?  I'm sorry, but I cannot remember you for the life of me... Y-You jest! You cannot have forgotten me!    You can't be serious! It's Freya, your lost love! How could you forget her!? That is enough, Zidane... You've been searching for this guy for years, and now he's right here!  Do you remember me, the King of Burmecia? Not at all, I'm afraid. Impossible! Have you forgotten everything that has passed!? Is it not because you learned of the crisis here in Cleyra, whose people are our brothers? As a matter of fact...  I found Fratley during my travels around the world! And you guessed it, he didn't know who I was! Or even who he was! His faint memories as a dragon knight called him back here! Yes, I was once called that... But now, that is all I can remember... Fratley...    I am happy simply knowing that Sir Fratley still lives. I knew you weren't ready to see him, but with Cleyra under attack and all... I need no such courtesy, Highness.  Wh-What? That was Puck?  Ahahaha... To find the man about whom I have dreamt endlessly... To recap, turns out the man Freya's helplessly in love with, the man she sacrificed everything to find and be with...has amnesia and can no longer remember her, nor anything else besides his calling. Freya's...taking this as best as a person could take their beloved forgetting them completely. It freaking sucks, after all, but she also has a surprising amount of strength in her that have gotten her this far. Cleyra's still in danger, and she's not ready to give up on her people just because she lost the one man that gave her drive.  We must regroup! Freya...    Speaking of danger... Eeeeek! Have mercy! You fail to grasp the true power of this jewel! Now that I have this jewel, I am through with your city!    Anyway, all the people we saved will give us random items. Nothing too exciting, the biggest thing is an Elixir, but free stuff is never bad. There's also a moogle to save at before we approach Beatrix, which is good because it's loving Beatrix.  Get away? Hahaha. Have you forgotten how badly I beat you back in Burmecia?      Round 2 with Beatrix. Trust me, she's not any easier.  First thing's first, Reis's Wind on the party and Slow on Beatrix.  She has a couple nice steals, namely the Ice Brand for Steiner, but I can't even steal the Thunder Gloves from her since like the previous fight this one will expire after a certain amount of time and I'm not save scumming for it.   Beatrix is as scary as ever. Shock will flat-out one-shot someone unless you're really overleveled.  She has Thunder Slash as well, which isn't too bad. She can also cure herself, but I only saw Shock and Thunder Slash since I was on the defensive while trying in vain to get her rarer steals.   Once again, she lets loose an attack (Stock Break) that renders everyone to 1HP.  Freya goes to Trance but the battle's over so good job?      And so Beatrix jumps into that weird teleport orb and transports away.  What now, Freya? Good question...  There! I'm gonna follow 'em!  Zidane decides to follow and also jumps into the orb.   Besides, this may be your last chance to find the truth about who you are...  Oh no... Freya's gone, too!  Quina fails to follow, and thus our journey with Quina comes at an end. Goodbye, Quina. Hope you don't have to say hello to Burmecian Soldier Dan anytime soon! -----   Without her summoning powers, Garnet is helpless. Now, I'll find out if Kuja's claims are true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ZXnpY4UYI   Brahne decides to class change to Summoner (I assume her past job was Blue Mage since she's gotta be part Qu).   And wouldn't you know it, the job change took!   This is Odin. He's been one of the series staple summons since FF3 and has appeared in every FF since. His signature attack is Zantetsuken, which usually instantly kills enemies.  He rides on his steed, Sleipnir (the same name as Odin's steed in Norse mythology, wouldn't you know) in pretty much every iteration he's in. There's usually some story about him being petrified and/or being a long-lost king.  Most importantly, Odin usually gives no fucks. He certainly doesn't in this game.      So, Cleyra? Utterly destroyed. It's gone. Brahne has just destroyed an entire civilization in under a minute.  And just as soon as he appeared, Odin has vanished. As we leave off for this update, just remember this one thing...  This is the face of genocide.
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I can't believe Burmecian Soldier Dan is loving dead.  Oh, and also the rest of the Burmecians and Cleyrans. Also, I can't read those words without this immediately overwriting whatever music is currently going through my head.
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He died as he lived, getting set on fire by a black mage. Wait that's not how he lived at all! Poor Burmecian Soldier Dan. Given that this is the power of summons, it is both a good thing and a bad thing Garnet never got around to getting enough MP to cast them for us.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Given that this is the power of summons, it is both a good thing and a bad thing Garnet never got around to getting enough MP to cast them for us. I think if you grind her up to about Level 40 before she gets them extracted by the clown crew, she'll have enough MP to cast Shiva a grand total of once. I never knew about this. I guess that's what I deserve for never developing the habit of always talking to NPCs. RIP Burmecian Soldier Dan. He died making a Final Fantasy II reference. Did we really need another fight with Beatrix so soon? I don't feel like it was necessary narrative-wise. We lost to her last time horribly. This time isn't much later on, so the impact is lost a bit since we haven't gotten significantly stronger nor do we have any new party members (unless you did Burmecia without Quina then doubled back for them). Maybe it's meant to hammer in how hopeless saving Cleyra is, but ehhh. Also, where did Fratley leave to? What was more important than staying behind and quelling the invasion? Did he realize he left the tub running or something?   Mega64 posted:
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Oh right, the implication with them being unable to set up the sandstorm again is that the dance is just ceremony, the harp with the stone in it is what really does all the work. With the harp strings broken, they can't do anything with the stone.
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RIP Burmecian Soldier Dan. Gunned down in his prime.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I think if you grind her up to about Level 40 before she gets them extracted by the clown crew, she'll have enough MP to cast Shiva a grand total of once. It's actually 15 or so. Otherwise Dagger-only runs would be nigh impossible due to Black Waltz #2.
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Upon looking at the update again, seeing that Black Mage wait for Vivi before opening the portal makes me wonder if the Black Mage enemies in the game are coded to not attack Vivi until he hits them first.ApplesandOranges posted:It's actually 15 or so. Otherwise Dagger-only runs would be nigh impossible due to Black Waltz #2. How do you do Dagger-only runs on Black Waltz #2 anyway? Doesn't he use Hypnotize on her if she's the only one alive?
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Welp indeed. If I remember correctly, the "right" path to take in that get-the-survivors-to-safety bit is to just take the most roundabout path, sweeping the whole area. Standard RPG rules, visit every possible place before plot progression.
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W.T. Fits posted:I can't believe Burmecian Soldier Dan is loving dead. I can't believe Quina is loving dead The correct path to escort the survivors is the same path you took on the tour at the beginning, aka the most indirect route. If you just try going up and reaching the cathedral as fast as possible, they get slaughtered. Though I guess that happened anyway 
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Welp indeed. I always thought it was something like "go in the direction nobody came from", with the mentality that they're running that way because they're being chased.
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Schwartzcough posted:Something tells me cutscene summons are SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than gameplay summons. As with Odin in all other Final Fantasies, if this was gameplay, Odin's attack would have landed three miles to the left and a giant MISS! would have appeared over Cleyra.
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Did you make the right decisions to save everyone? Well psyche! They all get blown up anyway. Hahaha! Also where the heck did Sir Fratley go.
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Pureauthor posted:Also where the heck did Sir Fratley go. Jumped clean out of the plot, as far as I remember.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:As with Odin in all other Final Fantasies, if this was gameplay, Odin's attack would have landed three miles to the left and a giant MISS! would have appeared over Cleyra. Nah, that's if he'd actually been using his signature Zantetsuken attack. But the FMV clearly shows him hurling his spear Gungnir, which is tends to be more accurate since it doesn't have to check for immunity to instant death.
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I have never wanted a video game character to die more than Brahne after that look of glee on her face when I first played this years ago
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MarquiseMindfang posted:As with Odin in all other Final Fantasies, if this was gameplay, Odin's attack would have landed three miles to the left and a giant MISS! would have appeared over Cleyra. As if any of the Cleyrans and Burmecians had the HEAVY flag.
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Fratley doesn't have amnesia, he legitimately doesn't know who Freya is. She's been stalking him for years.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Upon looking at the update again, seeing that Black Mage wait for Vivi before opening the portal makes me wonder if the Black Mage enemies in the game are coded to not attack Vivi until he hits them first. That's the one fight where you have to break the rule and keep someone else alive. They do nothing (not even Defend), it's up to Dagger to make sure they're topped up. As for the actual fight itself, you're either auto-attacking for eternity (and throwing a Potion every now and then on your target dummy), or train up to level 15 and then use Shiva and a couple Ethers.
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Squarely Circle posted:I can't believe Quina is loving dead It's also worth noting that after the first choice, you can see the priests fleeing at the start of every screen afterward, and that they'll be fleeing on the proper choice of path. As long as you don't get them killed at the first choice (which is basically a 50/50 shot if you forgot the tour), you can just follow them to safety afterward. You have to feel sorry for Freya. Keep in mind that this is basically the same day as what happened in Burmecia. Freya has lost TWO kingdoms (and a lover) in a day that may very well surpass Billy Lee Black's worst day in pure shittiness.
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Fister Roboto posted:Fratley doesn't have amnesia, he legitimately doesn't know who Freya is. She's been stalking him for years. This is my new headcanon. Freya is an insane stalker. Fratley came home to find his pet oglop boiling on the stove and the trauma caused him to lose his memory.
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Boy, Freya doesn't do it for me as a character. That reunion is, like, the climax of her character arc so far and it's a dud. Give me Puck instead, he has a personality and could act as the game's token rat person. Edit: Is Dagger's plot line meant to be happening at the same time as Zidane/Freya's? Because in a relatively short time span, we saw Brahne in Burmecia, then in Alexandria for Dagger's capture, then here. That's a lot of travelling Jay Rust fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Jay Rust posted:Boy, Freya doesn't do it for me as a character. That reunion is, like, the climax of her character arc so far and it's a dud. Give me Puck instead, he has a personality and could act as the game's token rat person. they aren't strictly concurrent. it takes the party a while to get to Cleyra, and Brahne travels by airship.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Jumped clean out of the plot, as far as I remember. I believe this was the last we ever see of both Fratily and Puck.
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cdyoung posted:I believe this was the last we ever see of both Fratily and Puck. They both show up in the ending.
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For all its colours and funny-looking characters, FFIX is a surprisingly dark game in several ways. It certainly doesn't shy away from a whole lotta people getting killed, and the cause is almost always their fellow humanoids rather than natural disasters or wild monsters. That said Odin riding away from the Cleyra explosion is hella cool.
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Kanfy posted:For all its colours and funny-looking characters, FFIX is a surprisingly dark game in several ways. It certainly doesn't shy away from a whole lotta people getting killed, and the cause is almost always their fellow humanoids rather than natural disasters or wild monsters. Final Fantasy has always kinda done that. 6 had suicide, single mothers and the end of the world. In 7 you're responsible for destroying a huge chunk of Midgar and there's lots of stuff about death and sacrifice. In 8 you listen to love songs and grow up in the same orphanage as every other character with a speaking role and... well 8 is a bit of a mess. A lot of this stuff tends to blur into one big smudge when you're playing the same game for 60-odd hours. But I think the darkness has always been there, no matter how many chocobos you ride at the Golden Saucer, or Octopus-based operas you perform.
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