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KittyEmpress posted:And honestly. If the excuse is that Ms. marvel was advertised and shown off and stuff and thus people knew ahead of time, then gosh, maybe DC should do the same? Yes but then DC would have to do something smart that Marvel does like recap pages and we can't risk doing that!
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New York style pizza is a sin, Might as well just throw some mozzarella on a piece of cardboard.
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Rhyno posted:All food in Pennsylvania is horrible. pierogi are not horrible and PA is where I first had pierogi therefore you are wrong and bad and dumb.
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Jul 10, 2016 22:09
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:pierogi are not horrible and PA is where I first had pierogi therefore you are wrong and bad and dumb. I am beautiful and wise and know all things.
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Jul 10, 2016 22:12
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I'm pretty interested in New Super-Man. The cover does come across as a bit much to me, but given that it's written by a Chinese writer, and Chinese users are saying it's fine I'm not going to make a stink about it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the actual book will be like, but I feel somewhat optimistic about it since the preview was interesting.
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Roth posted:The cover does come across as a bit much to me, but given that it's written by a Chinese writer, and Chinese users are saying it's fine I'm not going to make a stink about it. Nope, the goon hivemind says it must be poo poo so it's already poo poo.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:pierogi are not horrible and PA is where I first had pierogi therefore you are wrong and bad and dumb. Pierogi are thanks to Slav ingenuity. No need for Pennsylvania, Chicago has plenty of Slavs with plenty of pierogi. Squizzle posted:wtf franchise crap are you all talking I have never had pizza here and I turned out okay.
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Rhyno posted:Nope, the goon hivemind says it must be poo poo so it's already poo poo. The art is bad, the story will probably be fine.
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X-O posted:The art is bad, the story will probably be fine. I'm sorry the story is racist
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Mr Hootington posted:I'm sorry the story is racist You misunderstood me, I don't have a problem with what is depicted on the cover at all. The art in the preview for the actual pages is just not very good.
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X-O posted:You misunderstood me, I don't have a problem with what is depicted on the cover at all. The art in the preview for the actual pages is just not very good. well that is compounded by the story being racist in the book that we haven't read yet
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Mr Hootington posted:well that is compounded by the story being racist in the book that we haven't read yet DC has addressed our concerns and every copy will include a limited edition set of NEW SUPER MAN chopsticks.
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Rhyno posted:DC has addressed our concerns and every copy will include a limited edition set of NEW SUPER MAN chopsticks. And hidden pandas (that only racists can see)
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As a Indian woman I think the cover is ok
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Pierogis loving rule and are the only thing I miss from when I lived in PA.
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Rhyno posted:All food in Pennsylvania is horrible. Extremely true, with two caveats:
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Why does everyone keep complaining New Superman seems like a jerk? Like I'm pretty sure the up fronts literally say the character starts out self centered and learns to take responsibility and be a real hero. Like Spider-Man. Now of course that may be a story you're tired of, but it's not just "that character is an unlikable rear end in a top hat".
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greatn posted:Why does everyone keep complaining New Superman seems like a jerk? Like I'm pretty sure the up fronts literally say the character starts out self centered and learns to take responsibility and be a real hero. Like Spider-Man. Why is he a jerk? Oh I dunno, maybe the preview pages where he's beating up a kid and stealing his lunch and calling him names. Just a hunch that might be it.
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X-O posted:Why is he a jerk? Oh I dunno, maybe the preview pages where he's beating up a kid and stealing his lunch and calling him names. Just a hunch that might be it. You know, like Spider-Man!
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Also the comic literally goes "You thought this would be a Peter Parker story? Nuh-uh, it's about Flash Thompson!" and Flash Thompson turns out to be awesome and cool and rad and strong. I'm willing to give New Super-Man a chance literally solely because he's Asian, but his entire intro came off as tone deaf at best.
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To be clear, I think having it be an unlikable bully is a good idea because too often it is a character you instantly sympathize with. But it's clear he's supposed to be unlikable at first. I'm happy it wasn't just another shy kid that wants to do good.Toxxupation posted:Also the comic literally goes "You thought this would be a Peter Parker story? Nuh-uh, it's about Flash Thompson!" and Flash Thompson turns out to be awesome and cool and rad and strong. I'm willing to give New Super-Man a chance literally solely because he's Asian, but his entire intro came off as tone deaf at best. I don't think it's tone deaf at all. That's a weird way to feel about them just telling a similar story with a different character type. A more interesting story even.
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There's nothing more tone deaf than a clearly defined character arc.
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Semper Fudge posted:There's nothing more tone deaf than a clearly defined character arc. Come on man, we've seen three or four pages. It's a lost cause. This guy will never change.
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I agree that in theory centering the Peter Parker story around Flash Thompson is an interesting one, but from the preview pages I read it felt too on-the-nose and "we're doing Spider-Man but with Flash Thompson" and too much glorification in how much of a total rear end in a top hat Kenan Kong was over just portraying a total rear end in a top hat honestly. But I don't know for sure. They got me interested enough to pick up the first issue, that's for sure, but a lot of things about the writing of the preview pages rubbed me the wrong way. It felt like "Man this guy's a real loving dick, isn't that rad?"
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Yeah, sounds to me like you're judging a story based on three pages of in character first person narration during a time when the character is clearly not what he's going to eventually turn into. Maybe pump the breaks a little on throwing out terms like tone deaf.
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I'm in the camp where I honestly kind of like reading about people that are assholes, so I'm interested in the concept based solely on that. I think what we saw in the preview is just to make it as clear as possible that he's a bully despite bearing the Superman name.
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I loved Superman #2. Superman as a dad is so good I don't know why they took Chris Kent away years ago. If Batman can have a bunch of kids, why can't Superman?
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I genuinely hope that New Super-Man is still pantsing nerds by the last issue.
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Adnor posted:I loved Superman #2. Superman as a dad is so good I don't know why they took Chris Kent away years ago. And if any of Superman's kids happen to come out without superpowers, he can toss them to Bruce for the Robin farm.
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I'd love a Superman who was Silver Age Superdickery Superman.
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I can enjoy a story about an rear end in a top hat. I do not think the preview for New Super-Man gives me the feeling he'll be the kinda of rear end in a top hat I would find enjoyable. I will still read at least the first two issues to see though. These are my DC Comics opinions.
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Travis343 posted:And if any of Superman's kids happen to come out without superpowers, he can toss them to Bruce for the Robin farm. Does that mean that Damian was in line for superboy training?
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There's probably a readably Ok essay/article lurking somewhere in the portrayal of Superman with different racial and ethnic identities in recent years, with President Superman from Morrison, the Gods & Monsters Zod-sired Superman raised by Mexican immigrants, and now the New Super-Man.
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I'll wait a little while and see what other people have to say about New Super-Man before I buy his comic. I understand that a preview isn't indicative of the entire comic let alone the run, but man.....I do not wanna read cape stories about unlikable bullies.
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It's not going to be about an unlikable hero. It's going to be about an unlikable person becoming a likable hero.
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Didn't Marvel just do that with Alpha? I mean, I didn't read the mini-series, but I thought people said in that he was actually likeable as opposed to how he was in Spider-Man.
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bobkatt013 posted:Does that mean that Damian was in line for superboy training? Oh now I want stories with Damian and Superman, it would be the opposite of Nightwing and Superman stories because I doubt Damian would be a Supes fanboy.
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X-O posted:It's not going to be about an unlikable hero. It's going to be about an unlikable person becoming a likable hero. Why is your assumption of his character arc any better than Toxx's?
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SonicRulez posted:Why is your assumption of his character arc any better than Toxx's? Because his sounds like a comic someone would actually write as opposed to the idea that somehow it will be about the adventures of Super rear end in a top hat who beats people up and is a bully or whatever.
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