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Falken posted:I think he had to follow some instructions to get the car to actually get out of 7th gear. First part of the message was perfectly fine, the car was stuck in 7th gear and about to come to a stop at that exact moment. The problem was nico panicking and asking how he should shift gears after he had put it in the driver default mode and was told "affirm". It wasn't even a complicated work around, it was some basic karting level poo poo. 10 seconds is fair and probably the minimum they were allowed to give as it was a minor mistake that didn't really impact the race, but they did have to implement the "rules is rules" thing Charlie is on at the moment.
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enri posted:Another dull Hamilton run to the finish line.
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enri posted:...and one final random question, there was a race where it started raining towards the end and Barrichello of all people had made some miraculous tyre choice the lap before it started raining and was lapping 5-6 seconds faster than everyone. It's bugging the poo poo out of me that I can't remember what race it was, I'm sure he was at Honda or Williams at the time. Anyone? 2008 British GP?
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Alain Post posted:I love the radio ban because it's a perfect example of the kind of dumb rear end rule the people on Reddit or the Autosport boards would come up with if they ran F1. It's retarded.
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I'm sure teams have figured out by now that they can use different ways of telling "I can't answer that" to answer basic questions.
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Jul 11, 2016 01:45
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It should either be you can't physically have a radio transmitter/receiver in the car or you can say anything you want. Anything inbetween is just going to be stupid.
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1500quidporsche posted:It should either be you can't physically have a radio transmitter/receiver in the car or you can say anything you want. Anything inbetween is just going to be stupid. How else is Nico going to complain about Vestappen using his frog voodoo to stay ahead of him?
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Jul 11, 2016 01:58
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Man even as someone who thinks Nico is garbage. 10 second penalty for violating a rule that shouldn't exist loving sucks.
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Minto Took posted:I'm sure teams have figured out by now that they can use different ways of telling "I can't answer that" to answer basic questions. Is there anything specifically banning hand signals like baseball? I want to see Pat Symonds and Rob Smedley frantically sending coded signals by touching their belts and hats to explain to Massa what gear to use when cornering.
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Jul 11, 2016 02:59
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Nico's so bad he needs the FIA's incompetence on top of his own just to lose properly
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Norns posted:Man even as someone who thinks Nico is garbage. 10 second penalty for violating a rule that shouldn't exist loving sucks. The penalty was because he needed help being told how to change gear. Even after being told such, he managed to ignore the advice and jam it in the broken gear. He's also (one of) the drivers who needed constant coaching that led to the ban in the first place. Fraudberg brings it on himself.
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The minutiae behind why he got the 10 second penalty doesn't matter when the rule itself sucks
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The retarded thing is now every race strategists are going to be looking at every problem and wondering if it is worth the 10 second penalty to tell their driver, so it really isn't a ban.
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They should just un-ban two-way telemetry. That way they could just reset the gearbox and put the engine into the correct mode from the pit box.
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If you think about it geargate and radiogate would be easily solved if teams just reverted to stick shifts and no radios like in the good 'ol days.
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Whitey Ford posted:Is there anything specifically banning hand signals like baseball? I want to see Pat Symonds and Rob Smedley frantically sending coded signals by touching their belts and hats to explain to Massa what gear to use when cornering. Massa won't be able to figure it out. Pre-spring Massa could
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gret posted:They should just un-ban two-way telemetry. That way they could just reset the gearbox and put the engine into the correct mode from the pit box. Autobots roll out
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bring back carburetion The driver should have to adjust the air to fuel mixture themselves. I'm tired of these drivers having everything automated for them.
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Both from reddit: https://streamable.com/4lq9 Kart Racing at Alonso's Track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ieUSh-YoXk Halo14 fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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So, I assume it's now Sky that's producing the British GP? Because that was one of the worst race productions of the year. New onboard-next-to-helmet cams are cool, though. Also nice to see Verstappen proving this thread wrong.
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Rosberg: “Gearbox problem.” Engineer: “Driver default 1-0-1, chassis default 0-1, chassis default 0-1.” Engineer: “Avoid seventh gear, Nico, avoid seventh gear.” Rosberg: “What does that mean, I have to shift through it?” Engineer: “Affirm Nico, you need to shift through it. Affirm, you need to shift through it.” Fraud.
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learnincurve posted:Rosberg: “Gearbox problem.” Thank you for finally posting it, because it really was just a language issue. Nico got punished for clarifying. If his engineer was more specific it would have been fine. Avoid is not clear. He has two options, shift past it, or only go to 6th. That's what he was asking. And this is all ridiculous. Thank god there are stupid rules cause otherwise what would F1 fans talk about??
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1500quidporsche posted:bring back carburetion The driver should have to adjust the air to fuel mixture themselves. I'm tired of these drivers having everything automated for them. Having driven my friend's Hyundai Veloster and tried adjusting the air to fuel mixture, I didn't find it much more difficult than on a simulator. Not sure if it will add much challenge to the drivers either way
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nsaP posted:And this is all ridiculous. Thank god there are stupid rules cause otherwise what would F1 fans talk about?? It's is an unbearable two weeks between races, praise FIA for generating a topic to squabble about. Praise Ferrari for resigning Kimi too, for the same reason.
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Actually reading it again there it was not Nico's fault right? He was given the 'coaching' before he asked? This radio poo poo is silly...anyway the next MotoGP race...
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Based on the wording of the FIA ruling it sounds like it was okay to tell Nico what mode to put the gearbox into to prevent it from exploding, but continuing on to tell him to avoid shifting into 7th gear was against the rules. I think the rule itself is dumb but this was a pretty clear violation of it.
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Rule or not. Nico continues to be hilarious and bad.
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Norns posted:Rule or not. Nico continues to be hilarious and bad. We're debating rules, not fraud status
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Nico is a fraud but Lewis is insufferable. The only real solution is to support Fernando.
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Thanks Ants posted:Nico is a fraud but Lewis is insufferable. And Dan. And Jense. But NOT 
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Riso posted:And Dan. Max is the best. It's only taken him a few races to show how much of a fraud Rickyclackyclongo is. Give him one more season and he'll prove himself to be the white Lewis Hamilton.
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nsaP posted:Avoid is not clear. He has two options, shift past it, or only go to 6th. That's what he was asking. Heaven forbid the driver should need to work out how to drive a compromised car; the hallmark of 'great' drivers in the sport since forever. Many drivers have finished a race with a sticky gearbox by working it out themselves. It was absurdly obvious even from the HUD on the broadcast it was sticking in 7th both ways.
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Last week Fernando Alonso undid his seatbelt while driving, reached over and hit a button on the outside of his car.
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Brainwrong posted:Max is the best. It's only taken him a few races to show how much of a fraud Rickyclackyclongo is. Give him one more season and he'll prove himself to be the white Lewis Hamilton. Ali G has been done.
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Thanks Ants posted:The only real solution is to support Fernando.
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nsaP posted:Thank god there are stupid rules cause otherwise what would F1 fans talk about??
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El Hefe posted:If you think about it geargate and radiogate would be easily solved if teams just reverted to stick shifts and no radios like in the good 'ol days. There are no "gates" involved with any of those things, Hefe!  Fo3 posted:Haha, I noticed that too. Good on him. I need more history on this... it isn't just a worst thread thing? Halo14 posted:Kart Racing at Alonso's Track That was awesome. 4 cool and good drivers.
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Interesting stat about Max. ”Verstappen took his third podium finish and second in a row. In the six races since he joined Red Bull he has scored 77 points, more than Raikkonen (63), Ricciardo (64), Vettel (65) and even Rosberg (68). Only Hamilton has scored more points in the last six races, taking 110.“
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Max is kinda growing on me after watching him defend on Kimi and Fraudsberg. Sucks he's part of Redbull. Same with Dan really.
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Thanks Ants posted:The only real solution is to support Fernando. Imagine if he had a car with an engine that wasn't a constant huge garbage fire.
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