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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

smackfu posted:

Seems like the wave action has to be practically nil for that to work well.

That's what harbors are for in the first place.

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WhyNoOnePayMe
Dec 20, 2010
I searched and couldn't find this posted to Locomotive Insanity before but it amazed me that this was even possible. The rail grinder will be no help.

This is where I found these images and most agreed that they weren't Photoshopped.
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/65164-Locomotive-Burn-Out



bennyfactor
Nov 21, 2008


Bad day on the Down To gently caress Railroad.

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

WhyNoOnePayMe posted:

I searched and couldn't find this posted to Locomotive Insanity before but it amazed me that this was even possible. The rail grinder will be no help.

This is where I found these images and most agreed that they weren't Photoshopped.


a year or two ago, i was bullshitting with the yardmaster while a crew was switching the ramp. the conductor says something to the engineer about the cars not moving and the engineer replies 'i've got it in notch 8, go knock some hand breaks off'.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

bennyfactor posted:

Bad day on the Down To gently caress Railroad.

Heh, my grandpa used to talk about the Never Come, Never Go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_County_Narrow_Gauge_Railroad

Stick Insect
Oct 24, 2010

My enemies are many.

My equals are none.
From the Maxis/Artdink A-train manual:

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Loaded up and trucking.We gonna do what they say cant be done.

Stick Insect posted:

From the Maxis/Artdink A-train manual:



If you don't laugh at one of these, you don't have a sense of humor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_nicknames

Tex Avery
Feb 13, 2012

InterceptorV8 posted:

If you don't laugh at one of these, you don't have a sense of humor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_nicknames

They don't have my favorite! The Waco, Beaumont, Trinity, & Sabine used to be affectionately known as the Wobbly, Bobbly, Turnover & Stop.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
I think 8 bit axle counters might be a bit too low...

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



So this happened: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36774059

I thought trains weren't supposed to play Chicken.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

apply directly to the forehead

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Preliminary report on the Panhandle Texas head-on
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/dca16fr008-preliminary.aspx

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005
So he just blew through a red signal?

"Oh you don't like PTC? Well that's how you get PTC..."

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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McDeth posted:

So he just blew through a red signal?

"Oh you don't like PTC? Well that's how you get PTC..."

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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UP 844 out and about today
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e58_1469310487

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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If you could hear the souls of the crews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX-OkFWpNBM

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST


Man you can hear that thing coming from a long ways away.

Also that whistle :allears:

Westie
May 30, 2013



Baboon Simulator

B4Ctom1 posted:

If you could hear the souls of the crews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX-OkFWpNBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ICcOu0NkM

well, you wanted trains that sounded like they're screaming

monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007


Toilet Rascal

Westie posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ICcOu0NkM

well, you wanted trains that sounded like they're screaming

Gawd I remember when they were brand new. Used to go spotting on the East Coast Mainline just South of Doncaster when they're were at full chat on a nice straight bit. Loud as gently caress.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
Looks like the time is ripe to form a goon corporation and start a goon railroad!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/25/texas-city-tries-to-sell-historic-108-foot-steam-locomotive.html

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Looks like the time is ripe to form a goon corporation and start a goon railroad!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/25/texas-city-tries-to-sell-historic-108-foot-steam-locomotive.html

I just showed this to someone in the UP Steam Program. If the UP went and got it, that would be a hell of an insult to Buffet.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Metrolink had to close part of their Antelope Valley line cause of the fires getting to the tracks. A cool picture:



Source http://www.railpictures.net/photo/583770/

Akion
May 7, 2006
Grimey Drawer
Someone down in The Firing Range thread suggested I crosspost my friends J34-powered train dragster thing here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulW-14iyyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3joLfb9700

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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http://www.railpictures.net/photo/148631/

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners
we had a bridge strike last winter on a fully cleared route. ice/snow buildup in the well had raised the boxes enough that it hit a bridge at speed. totally decapitated the top box.

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005

How does that even happen? Aren't those inter-modal containers a standard height and width?

Hambilderberglar
Dec 2, 2004

McDeth posted:

How does that even happen? Aren't those inter-modal containers a standard height and width?
Insufficiently roomy loading gauge is (afaik) a big reason why doublestacking containers isn't a thing yet in Europe. That bridge looks more than generous for a single stack, but apparently not a double! I wonder how it feels from the driver's position.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

Hambilderberglar posted:

Insufficiently roomy loading gauge is (afaik) a big reason why doublestacking containers isn't a thing yet in Europe. That bridge looks more than generous for a single stack, but apparently not a double! I wonder how it feels from the driver's position.

"yet" as in will never happen on existing lines due to bridges and most of it being electric.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

McDeth posted:

How does that even happen? Aren't those inter-modal containers a standard height and width?

According to the link it's because the cars were set out on a rarely used track which did have the correct clearance, but when they went to bring them back they did it on the next track over which was only used to serve a gravel pit, and did not have the correct clearance.

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

McDeth posted:

How does that even happen? Aren't those inter-modal containers a standard height and width?

theyre not all the same height or width. some are high cubes and some are standards. the difference between the two is a foot. all 45', 48', and 53' containers are high cubes. all 20' containers are standards. 40' containers can be either and it depends on the number range. some boxes are also wider but they're almost only used in domestic service.

most international containers(20, 40, 45) have an additional code(ISO size/type code) painted on the box that tells you the exact dimensions and characteristics of the box. the railroads dont use these, probably for data exchange purposes, and instead use an aar code which isn't fully mapped to the iso codes. high cube 40' and 45' boxes usually have caution tape around the top corners but that wears off and is rarely reapplied.

eg. 45G1 is a (4)40' (5)high cube (G1)dry van box. 42G1 is a (4)40' (2) standard (G1) dry van box.

a lot of bridge strikes occur because a clerk at a railyard didn't verify the height of a 40' container or the computer system incorrectly assigned the height based on a faulty database.


edit: an interesting fact about that kind of car: there is nothing holding the top box to the bottom box but gravity. the bulkheads keep the top box roughly centered above the bottom but nothing more.

vains fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 31, 2016

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

theyre not all the same height or width. some are high cubes and some are standards. the difference between the two is a foot. all 45', 48', and 53' containers are high cubes. all 20' containers are standards. 40' containers can be either and it depends on the number range. some boxes are also wider but they're almost only used in domestic service.

most international containers(20, 40, 45) have an additional code(ISO size/type code) painted on the box that tells you the exact dimensions and characteristics of the box. the railroads dont use these, probably for data exchange purposes, and instead use an aar code which isn't fully mapped to the iso codes. high cube 40' and 45' boxes usually have caution tape around the top corners but that wears off and is rarely reapplied.

eg. 45G1 is a (4)40' (5)high cube (G1)dry van box. 42G1 is a (4)40' (2) standard (G1) dry van box.

a lot of bridge strikes occur because a clerk at a railyard didn't verify the height of a 40' container or the computer system incorrectly assigned the height based on a faulty database.


edit: an interesting fact about that kind of car: there is nothing holding the top box to the bottom box but gravity. the bulkheads keep the top box roughly centered above the bottom but nothing more.

Wait, I thought there were still connector pins between the containers to lock them together. Oh god.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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They use these little dogs to lock them together


they are made out of pot metal, are locked with a twist, and apparently not often locked
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-32067130

The real issue with containers is related to their surface area and their empty weight. The V over L forces get rowdy pretty quickly even on lightly loaded containers.

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

B4Ctom1 posted:

They use these little dogs to lock them together


they are made out of pot metal, are locked with a twist, and apparently not often locked
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-32067130

The real issue with containers is related to their surface area and their empty weight. The V over L forces get rowdy pretty quickly even on lightly loaded containers.

we use those on all other well cars. bulkhead cars, like the one in the picture, dont use interbox connectors(twistlock, ibc). the ones we use in the us are pretty solidly made, its a 15 or 20lb piece of metal.

whether the containers are locked or unlocked depends entirely on the quality of the people and their management.

edit: letting a container depart unlocked is generally grounds for immediate termination. do not pass go, do not collect $200.

vains fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jul 31, 2016

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

we use those on all other well cars. bulkhead cars, like the one in the picture, dont use interbox connectors(twistlock, ibc). the ones we use in the us are pretty solidly made, its a 15 or 20lb piece of metal.

whether the containers are locked or unlocked depends entirely on the quality of the people and their management.

edit: letting a container depart unlocked is generally grounds for immediate termination. do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Yeah I was looking at that. I have seen those and wondered if it was the case. Do you think that the container would have "sheared" off the stack and into the containers behind it, in a chain reaction if it had not been that kind of car?

re: that edit.. wow

I remember the west coast port worker "lock out" that took place years ago. I guess they had the managers scabbing the work loading trains. We had a historically large number of blow offs back then.

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

B4Ctom1 posted:

Yeah I was looking at that. I have seen those and wondered if it was the case. Do you think that the container would have "sheared" off the stack and into the containers behind it, in a chain reaction if it had not been that kind of car?

re: that edit.. wow

I remember the west coast port worker "lock out" that took place years ago. I guess they had the managers scabbing the work loading trains. We had a historically large number of blow offs back then.

boxes that hit bridges/tunnel portals tend to just get turned from hi cubes into open top standards.

in whatever limited defense you can offer for loving up locking boxes, those managers were probably working 20hrs a day/7days a week during the lockout. tired people tend to miss things and, no doubt, everyone on the division was screaming at the port managers to get the trains in and out. they're kind of in an impossible situation because the inbounds are just going to keep coming, the container yard can't hold multiple ships worth of discharge, and the outbounds need to run.

whatever the case, its a huge safety concern. containers or trailers falling off cars could obviously very easily kill people.

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
Scene of the bridge strike, in case anyone wants to zoom around on google maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1813344,-81.3468417,3a,38.1y,269.68h,79.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFlXhYEwm_yfslcjQFTtJCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Pretty clear to see how low the first track is compared to the second. In 2014 it's all but disappeared in the muck.

Looking around, it's pretty inconceivable a double stack car would have any business being up there. I can understand shoving a bad order car that far, since it's the closest street access you have before getting onto the main line, but in those cases, isn't there usually a conductor on the ground watching the move?

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

NoWake posted:

Scene of the bridge strike, in case anyone wants to zoom around on google maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1813344,-81.3468417,3a,38.1y,269.68h,79.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFlXhYEwm_yfslcjQFTtJCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Pretty clear to see how low the first track is compared to the second. In 2014 it's all but disappeared in the muck.

Looking around, it's pretty inconceivable a double stack car would have any business being up there. I can understand shoving a bad order car that far, since it's the closest street access you have before getting onto the main line, but in those cases, isn't there usually a conductor on the ground watching the move?

probably riding the cut looking in the direction of the movement not checking overhead clearance.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I always assumed containers just rested on the pins and weren't locked in place. Someone really locks and unlocks every corner of every container on all trains and trucks? Container ships?

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

jamal posted:

I always assumed containers just rested on the pins and weren't locked in place. Someone really locks and unlocks every corner of every container on all trains and trucks? Container ships?

idk about ships but trucks and trains yes.

someone has to unlock the boxes when they arrive, pull the pins when the top box comes off, put the pins back in when the bottom is loaded and lock them all down when the top is loaded.

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JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

idk about ships but trucks and trains yes.

someone has to unlock the boxes when they arrive, pull the pins when the top box comes off, put the pins back in when the bottom is loaded and lock them all down when the top is loaded.

They are locked on ships as well. Someone actually has to climb around unlocking all the pins so the crane operator can start unstacking. And they do this ahead of the crane operator getting to that stack.

Edit: fun fact. When doing the process of locking trailers into the dock at my workplace, we have to make sure all 4 pins on container trailers are in the locked position. If a single one isn't locked, we have to report to higher up and are unable to complete checking in the trailer for use.

JuffoWup fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Aug 1, 2016

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