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Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Is Descent worth it for the solo camping with the App? I liked what I saw of the system with the Vassal module, but it was too clunky to keep playing that way.

Also, after two years of buying the game, I'm finally playing Twilight Struggle regularly... on iPad :(

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ElNarez
Nov 4, 2009

Gutter Owl posted:

Leigh and Quinns did an article dissecting the idea of gamifying sex. They conclude you likely end up with a boring game or with boring sex.

Not quite what you're asking about but related, Naomi Watts of DeadPixel.co designed an art game about negotiating sexual consent with an alien who doesn't speak earth-languages. I can see it having a parallel purpose to video games like Radiator 2 or Consensual Torture Simulator, in that it explores ideas of consent, care, patience, and nonverbal communication. Which are all very important to a healthy bedroom (or gently caress-dungeon, whatever works for you).

James Wallis did a great talk on the history of sex board games that's super well-researched and well fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o9Yc6vjfZA

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love
All this talk about Scythe is making my purchase hand tremble. I think I will hold off until a meetup and hope someone already took the plunge.

I got to try Arkham Horror this weekend and I didn't mind it. It went by quickly and even though we hosed up a few of the rules it wasn't as terrible as I was expecting it to be. I think my main problem with it wasn't necessarily the dice chucking but more the swingyness between the monsters that showed up and the lack of gradual amp up. It felt like poo poo just gets out of hand instantly and unless you know what you're doing or get very lucky with the Other World event cards it could be super frustrating. I was thinking that maybe a better way for monsters to arrive is to have them in stacks of various difficulties and that as more and more gates open or horror climbs that the difficulty of the monster increases, as opposed to getting butt-hosed right away by something insane. But anyway, it wasn't bad and the guy who owned it got it and the expansion for :10bux: so... not bad?

On the plus side I get to try Omega Centauri this week. Sinewave, any advice on the first play through?

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay



Not interested unless it's campaign for north africa.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

Jimbozig posted:

Hahahahahaha.

Get ready here comes the thread

My wife has an almost irrational hatred of Dead of Winter after playing it a few times. She's happy to know she's not alone.

pbpancho
Feb 17, 2004
-=International Sales=-

MockingQuantum posted:

My wife now works at Fantasy Flight/Asmodee NA. Help me. My game collection has tripled since she started and it only keeps growing.

Your wife now works with me then! What's she do? I'm the demo coordinator.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

FulsomFrank posted:

All this talk about Scythe is making my purchase hand tremble. I think I will hold off until a meetup and hope someone already took the plunge.

I got to try Arkham Horror this weekend and I didn't mind it. It went by quickly and even though we hosed up a few of the rules it wasn't as terrible as I was expecting it to be. I think my main problem with it wasn't necessarily the dice chucking but more the swingyness between the monsters that showed up and the lack of gradual amp up. It felt like poo poo just gets out of hand instantly and unless you know what you're doing or get very lucky with the Other World event cards it could be super frustrating. I was thinking that maybe a better way for monsters to arrive is to have them in stacks of various difficulties and that as more and more gates open or horror climbs that the difficulty of the monster increases, as opposed to getting butt-hosed right away by something insane. But anyway, it wasn't bad and the guy who owned it got it and the expansion for :10bux: so... not bad?

I wonder if there's a good way to homerule this, as I've felt the same way about the monster in Eldritch Horror. One moment you're fighting cultists, the next you're fighting Starspawn, the next you're fighting a simple vampire.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

It's less of a concern in Eldritch, since most of the monsters don't do anything to the game state besides guarding a gate. And there's always Tokyo encounters to get rid of/do damage to monsters.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:

GrandpaPants posted:

It's less of a concern in Eldritch, since most of the monsters don't do anything to the game state besides guarding a gate. And there's always Tokyo encounters to get rid of/do damage to monsters.

There a quite a few monster that add doom or hop to the closest investigator on those red events.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Shadin posted:

My wife has an almost irrational hatred of Dead of Winter after playing it a few times. She's happy to know she's not alone.

It's not irrational.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Caros posted:

If you get a chance, try it with the most recent expansion. Something something blood (I honestly can't remember).

I liked the game at first but soured on it quickly once it became clear that the arena combat has a lot of fiddly mechanics and really unthematic strategies. The first expansion introduced a 2v2 primus that was fun but basically never triggered. The newest expansion kept the primus but added festival intrigue cards that force the 2v2 with special rules such as 'only slaves', '2vs1', 'slave and gladiator' etc.

The variance due to festivals means that a lot of the old standby bullshit doesn't work as well, and combat stops being the worst part of the game.

Yeah, I have the festivals expansion (and the promo gladiators), I just need the actual expansion that has the Primus, which I'll probably pick up this week. We're enjoying the game, but yeah, I can see doing "2v2" working a lot better, especially when one person has a great gladiator and everyone else is still working with their starting guys.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
My girlfriend and I are looking for good co-op games that can be played with just two people. Something fairly challenging and with some longevity but not too tedious to set up. So far we think Dead Men Tell No Tales and Ghost Stories look promising. Would these be good choices, or are there others that might be better? Neither of us have that much exposure to board games.

Merauder
Apr 17, 2003

The North Remembers.

MeatwadIsGod posted:

My girlfriend and I are looking for good co-op games that can be played with just two people. Something fairly challenging and with some longevity but not too tedious to set up. So far we think Dead Men Tell No Tales and Ghost Stories look promising. Would these be good choices, or are there others that might be better? Neither of us have that much exposure to board games.

...and then, we held hands. is a great choice. 2 players only, co-op, and is actually about relationships.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Rutibex posted:

It is nice you can enjoy a healthy sex life and also judge others for what they enjoy. A very privileged position even. I'm sure lots of fat awkward nerds are getting invited to the sex dungeon to work out those frustrations just like you :rolleyes:

You have some wires crossed if this is your takeaway, rude boy :(

berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

Pandemic is pretty good on its own, and the expansions throw in a bit of variety when you start to get bored of the base game.

Alternatively you could get pandemic legacy and have the most fun losing over 12-24 games.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

FulsomFrank posted:


On the plus side I get to try Omega Centauri this week. Sinewave, any advice on the first play through?

If you can, I suggest playing the "short" game first which has simplified rules & still highlights many of the facets of the game while still being thinky. Depending on players and experience you can probably just play the short game once then play advanced thereafter.

You can dive straight into advanced but I think the short game was great for learning while still being a legit Gane game experience. (loving phone for some ungodly reason insists on capital-G "Gane" instead of "game" whenever I type :mad:)


Besides that: your reserves are your "fleet tokens bank". Destroyed fleets go back to your reserve, built fleets come from the reserve. The ONLY way more tokens enter the reserve is via Mobilize. So keep the extra fleet tokens separate. Accidentally taking fleets from the stock (ie the spare not in play tokens) when building, or discarding to the stock when destroyed is a big no no.

The Eyes Have It fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jul 11, 2016

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

Fat Samurai posted:

I thought the art was basically the developers and their friends cosplaying, which is charming in a goofy kind of way, but to each their own.





Maybe we're thinking of different games :v:

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

Azran posted:





Maybe we're thinking of different games :v:

He is almost certainly thinking of Dark, Darker, Darkest.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Okay, picked up the Serpent and the Wolf expansion, so now I've got everything for Spartacus.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Rutibex posted:

:eyepop:
I do declare! What revealing outfits, I am going to need my fainting couch. The lasciviousness of these scoundrels is beyond the pale, something really must be done!

Rutibex posted:

It is nice you can enjoy a healthy sex life and also judge others for what they enjoy. A very privileged position even. I'm sure lots of fat awkward nerds are getting invited to the sex dungeon to work out those frustrations just like you :rolleyes:

You're seriously repeatedly mocking someone for boycotting a company over misogynistic art? This is a new, scummy low for you Rutibex.

And yeah bud, you are a thief multiple times over among other less flattering descriptors.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Guy A. Person posted:

You're seriously repeatedly mocking someone for boycotting a company over misogynistic art? This is a new, scummy low for you Rutibex.

And yeah bud, you are a thief multiple times over among other less flattering descriptors.

Actually, revealing outfits and misogyny are not the same thing. I think that's where we might be misunderstanding each other.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Rutibex why do you need to be sexually aroused by your board games when the only people who play with you are your nephews

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Rutibex posted:

Actually, revealing outfits and misogyny are not the same thing. I think that's where we might be misunderstanding each other.

I think you're misunderstanding everyone around you because you have a subhuman intelligence level

The best part about those pair of quotes is that second one where it reveals who you are really concerned about : those poor nerds being judged for liking a thing (that "thing" being objectifying women in a super gross way)

Guy A. Person fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jul 11, 2016

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

I'm not saying Rutibex is necessarily an incestuous pedophile, but would any of us actually be surprised?

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Also loving christ: can a goddamn crotch panel and your own hair even be classified as "clothing"? What a joke

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Rutibex why do you need to be sexually aroused by your board games when the only people who play with you are your nephews

Lottery of Babylon posted:

I'm not saying Rutibex is necessarily an incestuous pedophile, but would any of us actually be surprised?

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Yo Rutibex, how do you feel about Star Trek?

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Rutibex posted:

Actually, revealing outfits and misogyny are not the same thing. I think that's where we might be misunderstanding each other.

You are scum.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

It's just a little weird that you can't have fun with your nephews without a boner

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003


Nice gif but you deserve this (because of what a genuinely bad person you are)

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Dead of Winter is a mechanically perfect game.

Also, it's fun.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Guy A. Person posted:

Also loving christ: can a goddamn crotch panel and your own hair even be classified as "clothing"? What a joke

I have not interacted with females since I graduated from high school, but I have seen them many a time on TV and they appear to profess appreciation for cute and sexy depictions of women. There-fore I fail to see why anyone should be offended by a woman wearing a self-adhesive cooter cup and nothing else

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Mega64 posted:

Dead of Winter is a mechanically perfect game.

Also, it's fun.

You know its hard to have the worst opinion on a page where Rutibex has posted but congrats.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

Azran posted:





Maybe we're thinking of different games :v:

A Touch of Evil. Don't ask me why. :suicide:

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
OMG check out this sick misogynistic objectification:
:nws:http://imgur.com/7ZN50RR:nws:

Kruller
Feb 20, 2004

It's time to restore dignity to the Farnsworth name!

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Okay, picked up the Serpent and the Wolf expansion, so now I've got everything for Spartacus.

Now just have this on a loop while you play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y09kqOVE4HE

Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

e m b r a c e
t r a n q u i l i t y



Rutibex posted:

OMG check out this sick misogynistic objectification:
:nws:http://imgur.com/7ZN50RR:nws:

This is the kind of argument guys ought to be growing out of shortly after leaving high school.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Rutibex posted:

OMG check out this sick misogynistic objectification:
:nws:http://imgur.com/7ZN50RR:nws:
Rutibex, ignoring the points that people make and trying to bring forward the same arguments over and over again is not going to work.

Let me give you an example: I'm a big fan of Oglaf, the webcomic series. It's not perfect but it is a funny webcomic that features a lot of nudity, but is fairly egalitarian in terms of that nudity. I don't have an issue with the nudity present within Oglaf. Is nudity appropriate within Oglaf? Yes, because I specifically go to that website to see those comics. Is nudity appropriate to the statue you posted? Yes, because the art is the totality of it, and there is nothing else apart from that, and it would be diminished if it was different. The reason why in EXCEED the art is inappropriate is because I didn't buy EXCEED to titillate me: I bought it because I loved the rules and mechanisms of the game. The game would be in no way diminished if you removed the objectionable art: it would remain fundamentally the same game.

It's the same reason why I don't have issues with Tanto Cuore (I do have issues with Barbarossa because sexualising WWII is loving gross). I wouldn't buy Tanto Cuore myself, but if you bought in the game it's pretty clear why you would buy into it.

We can keep slamming against this wall but until you understand that context is important, there's nothing else that can be done. At which point we dip into Poe's Law so many times that the entire conversation is essentially pointless.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Stop actually trying to engage him, it's not going to work. Everyone here except him gets it and he never will so just ignore his lovely garbage basement opinions.

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Gzuz-Kriced
Sep 27, 2000
Master of Spoo
I don't agree with Rutibex's points, but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong about sexualization in media. In my opinion, porn existing in whatever form is not definitively immoral. My issue with this kind of artwork is how pervasive it is throughout the medium and, as in cases like this, where it seems so out of place.

I think Taunto Core or whatever isn't as bad because it's up front about it. It doesn't hide from what it is. Having the rest of the game "normal" and then the females inexplicably dressed like extras in Dominion Does Dallas will obviously upset people and the publisher deserves poo poo for it.

edit: tekopo basically just said the same thing but better. Also Oglaf is great.

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