Final Fantasy Megathread - People here, it sounds like sickness

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Shoren: Apr 6, 2011; victoria concordia crescit

Awesome! That's exactly what I was hoping for and more. I knew they did away with the 4 nondescript chests that make the Zodiac Spear disappear forever which was a remarkably stupid idea in the original version.

I've never been fond of how Square makes these upgrades versions of their games Japan-exclusive (most notably with the Final Mix versions of Kingdom Hearts), but it's cool that they're finally releasing them in NA and in HD to boot.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 02:25

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# ? May 24, 2024 01:04

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Uh, Square makes the upgraded versions of games the debut in the States the standard version. There are exceptions like Zodiac and the FFX international, but for the most part, the americans get the improved versions out. Bravely Default 1.0 was a shitfest compared to what we got.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 02:30

Super No Vacancy: Jul 26, 2012

yeah sounds like the 'exceptions' are the ones worth caring about tho

# ? Jul 11, 2016 03:15

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

The original "International" version was FF7, wasn't it? The original Japanese version didn't have Ruby or Emerald Weapon, nor did it have the fight with Diamond Weapon, or the sweet Super Nova spell animation in the final boss fight that the North American version did. So they released an updated International version later so Japanese players could have the new things we played first.

You're definitely right that the exceptions are the ones worth caring about, though. For FFX, the International version really was international--it was the version released in Europe as well--and so it was at least fairly easy to play as a US player because they kept all the English text in. But yeah, there were tons of changes there that really improved the game. As for FFXII, I'm not even sure why its updated rerelease has "International" in the title at all, because I'm pretty sure that one really was Japan-only, and the enhancements it got weren't at all based on another region's version. Still has only English voices, though; I guess they decided those were the "canon" voices, so I'm pretty sure IZJS doesn't even have the option to switch back to Japanese. (Which is why it was pretty easy to release a translation patch for English--they could just take the English text from the original FFXII and slap it on with a patch, then correct the few discrepancies like the new weapon names.)

# ? Jul 11, 2016 12:59

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Bravely Default originally didn't let you control the random encounter rate.

I can't imagine how miserable that would be.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 13:20

Captain Baal: Oct 23, 2010; I Failed At Anime 2022

Iirc, the Japanese version also did not have some of the Zack cutscenes later too.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 13:37

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Mega64 posted:

Bravely Default originally didn't let you control the random encounter rate.

I can't imagine how miserable that would be.

It also did not have the group-based Asterisk battles in Chapters 7 and 8. They were originally just Chapters 5 and 6 copy-pasted again.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 13:50

Terper: Jun 26, 2012

Make Lucis Great Again

Terper fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jul 11, 2016

# ? Jul 11, 2016 13:50

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Mega64 posted:

Bravely Default originally didn't let you control the random encounter rate.

I can't imagine how miserable that would be.

Pureauthor posted:

It also did not have the group-based Asterisk battles in Chapters 7 and 8. They were originally just Chapters 5 and 6 copy-pasted again.

Yeah, as much as I loved Bravely Default, I don't think I'd have been able to finish it without the "international" improvements we got. I had random encounters permanently off from Chapter 5 onward, except during a couple of bursts of turbo job grinding and a little bit of blue magic hunting. That, and the cool Asterisk group battles in Chapters 7 and 8 were highlights of the game for me.

I haven't played Bravely Second yet. Did they carry forward the random encounter controls, at least?

# ? Jul 11, 2016 14:01

Terper: Jun 26, 2012

Yup. In fact they tie it to the story.

The improvements to the version we got was titled "For the Sequel" in Japan. Guess why!

# ? Jul 11, 2016 14:08

In Training: Jun 28, 2008

Looking forward to play BD2 whenever I get sick of fire emblem

# ? Jul 11, 2016 14:10

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

Terper posted:

Make Lucis Great Again

Throw Away The Treaty, Not The People

We Gave Him Our Lives,
He Gave Them Our Homes

this is brilliant :allears:

# ? Jul 11, 2016 21:11

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

How long until I can wander around my city casting Firaga on moogles using my phone? SE is pretty hip on mobile, I want to see a FF-themed Pokemon Go ripoff so I can watch every last ounce of shame I have die.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 21:16

Terper: Jun 26, 2012

DACK FAYDEN posted:

Throw Away The Treaty, Not The People

We Gave Him Our Lives,
He Gave Them Our Homes

this is brilliant

For those curious about the context, (Kingsglaive spoilers) The peace treaty Regis signs is basically the Empire going "Alright you can keep the capital but we get everything else" and Regis basically has no choice, which seriously pisses off the people.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 21:25

Augus: Mar 9, 2015

Terper posted:

Make Lucis Great Again

This is pretty cool

# ? Jul 11, 2016 23:21

Gologle: Apr 15, 2013; The Gologle Posting Experience.

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Yeah, well, Bahamut can't melt steel beams.

# ? Jul 11, 2016 23:26

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

quote:

Siliconera recently caught up with Square Enix producer Shuichi Kobayashi, who talked about some of the changes the company saw in the approval process of games after Yosuke Matsuda became CEO.

Kobayashi-san, it seems like you�ve been quite passionate about bringing back forgotten Square Enix IPs. What has changed in Square Enix as a company from when Wada-san was the president to now when Matsuda-san is the president to allow you to do this?

Shuichi Kobayashi, Producer at Square Enix: When the president changed from Wada-san to Matsuda-san, the approval process for creating new projects has changed too. When Wada-san was the president, everyone in the executive committee needed to agree to start a new project. When we changed to Matsuda-san, we created the business divisions and all of the approval processes will go from division to division so it�s become a lot speedier.

The approval process you have to go through became shorter too. It�s not that everything gets approved now, but because it�s faster it shortens the time to get approval. The idea behind this kind of process is at Square Enix as a company we want to push out more titles at a faster speed. That is why it has become easier to do this.

Even with this new process it doesn�t mean everything will get approved what came with this change in the approval process is a lot of responsibility. Whether you succeed or not, you have so much more responsibility now than before. We have to create something fun and something that will sell. That�s where each producer decides if they want to create a new IP (intellectual property) or if they want to use a previous IP to create something new.

But, we all have to think about creating something fun. If we succeed with Star Ocean: Integrity & Faithlessness then I will think about what I can do with Star Ocean next, but if I fail then I might have to think about what other titles I might be able to do. Each of the producers at our company are now thinking about what is fun to play with and what would be a good seller. When I was looking at the titles I could do, Star Ocean was the one I really wanted to work on and that is why I did Star Ocean this time.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 02:37

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Sounds neat that old IP's could come back, but honestly what other ones are there? FF, DW, and KH have all been thriving, but all the other various IP's besides Star Ocean, Mana, SaGa, and Parasite Eve (and maybe one or two I'm forgetting) are all too dormant or too messy to really bring back.

Maybe we could get that Live-A-Live 2 I've heard brought up in a "wouldn't it be nice if it happened?" context from one of the staff a year or two ago. The original did get a song in Theatrhythm, and its chapter-based set-up could work well as a mobile game. Maybe drudge up some old classics like Bahamut Lagoon or Actraiser or something else that'd work in mobile. There's also a lot of potential in cheap digital sequels/rereleases for the consoles/handhelds/Steam.

It'd be a nice income supplement for their big mobile games, their AAA games, and Eidos, plus AoM had a good reception (though no idea about sales obv., plus I haven't followed anything about SO5 but that series is kind of a train wreck anyway).

I'm kinda optimistic that we may actually see the weird, experimental side of Square that really shined in the SNES/PS1 era. New IP's would be welcome too of course, especially with the likes of Bravely Default.

It's SE so I expect more FF15 sequels to recoup the costs of the original, KH3 to be continuously delayed in favor of more side games, and FF7r to be vaporware. Still, it feels like SE is the best its been in years, and I'm actually looking forward to their games again (I probably won't play them but they look good).

# ? Jul 12, 2016 02:57

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

Mega64 posted:

Sounds neat that old IP's could come back, but honestly what other ones are there? FF, DW, and KH have all been thriving, but all the other various IP's besides Star Ocean, Mana, SaGa, and Parasite Eve (and maybe one or two I'm forgetting) are all too dormant or too messy to really bring back.

Maybe we could get that Live-A-Live 2 I've heard brought up in a "wouldn't it be nice if it happened?" context from one of the staff a year or two ago. The original did get a song in Theatrhythm, and its chapter-based set-up could work well as a mobile game. Maybe drudge up some old classics like Bahamut Lagoon or Actraiser or something else that'd work in mobile. There's also a lot of potential in cheap digital sequels/rereleases for the consoles/handhelds/Steam.

It'd be a nice income supplement for their big mobile games, their AAA games, and Eidos, plus AoM had a good reception (though no idea about sales obv., plus I haven't followed anything about SO5 but that series is kind of a train wreck anyway).

I'm kinda optimistic that we may actually see the weird, experimental side of Square that really shined in the SNES/PS1 era. New IP's would be welcome too of course, especially with the likes of Bravely Default.

It's SE so I expect more FF15 sequels to recoup the costs of the original, KH3 to be continuously delayed in favor of more side games, and FF7r to be vaporware. Still, it feels like SE is the best its been in years, and I'm actually looking forward to their games again (I probably won't play them but they look good).

The Portopia Serial Murder Case 2

# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:12

Gologle: Apr 15, 2013; The Gologle Posting Experience.

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Mega64 posted:

Sounds neat that old IP's could come back, but honestly what other ones are there? FF, DW, and KH have all been thriving, but all the other various IP's besides Star Ocean, Mana, SaGa, and Parasite Eve (and maybe one or two I'm forgetting) are all too dormant or too messy to really bring back.

Maybe we could get that Live-A-Live 2 I've heard brought up in a "wouldn't it be nice if it happened?" context from one of the staff a year or two ago. The original did get a song in Theatrhythm, and its chapter-based set-up could work well as a mobile game. Maybe drudge up some old classics like Bahamut Lagoon or Actraiser or something else that'd work in mobile. There's also a lot of potential in cheap digital sequels/rereleases for the consoles/handhelds/Steam.

It'd be a nice income supplement for their big mobile games, their AAA games, and Eidos, plus AoM had a good reception (though no idea about sales obv., plus I haven't followed anything about SO5 but that series is kind of a train wreck anyway).

I'm kinda optimistic that we may actually see the weird, experimental side of Square that really shined in the SNES/PS1 era. New IP's would be welcome too of course, especially with the likes of Bravely Default.

It's SE so I expect more FF15 sequels to recoup the costs of the original, KH3 to be continuously delayed in favor of more side games, and FF7r to be vaporware. Still, it feels like SE is the best its been in years, and I'm actually looking forward to their games again (I probably won't play them but they look good).

Drakengard 2.5: Nowe's head explodes after kicking a dragon and it motorboats that one chick's tits. Also Caim and Angelus are back for no reason.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:15

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

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# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:29

Grozz Nuy: Feb 21, 2008; Welcome to Moonside.

Wecomel to Soonmide.

Moonwel ot cosidme.

Mega64 posted:

Sounds neat that old IP's could come back, but honestly what other ones are there? FF, DW, and KH have all been thriving, but all the other various IP's besides Star Ocean, Mana, SaGa, and Parasite Eve (and maybe one or two I'm forgetting) are all too dormant or too messy to really bring back.

Maybe we could get that Live-A-Live 2 I've heard brought up in a "wouldn't it be nice if it happened?" context from one of the staff a year or two ago. The original did get a song in Theatrhythm, and its chapter-based set-up could work well as a mobile game. Maybe drudge up some old classics like Bahamut Lagoon or Actraiser or something else that'd work in mobile. There's also a lot of potential in cheap digital sequels/rereleases for the consoles/handhelds/Steam.

It'd be a nice income supplement for their big mobile games, their AAA games, and Eidos, plus AoM had a good reception (though no idea about sales obv., plus I haven't followed anything about SO5 but that series is kind of a train wreck anyway).

I'm kinda optimistic that we may actually see the weird, experimental side of Square that really shined in the SNES/PS1 era. New IP's would be welcome too of course, especially with the likes of Bravely Default.

It's SE so I expect more FF15 sequels to recoup the costs of the original, KH3 to be continuously delayed in favor of more side games, and FF7r to be vaporware. Still, it feels like SE is the best its been in years, and I'm actually looking forward to their games again (I probably won't play them but they look good).

Square seems to be back on good terms with Matsuno, so a new Ogre Battle (main series, not Tactics) with him back at the helm would make me extremely happy.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:40

Rirse: May 7, 2006; by R. Guyovich

Here hoping what franchises get revived don't end up like Parasite Eve's long awaited sequel. :smith:

# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:43

Phantasium: Dec 27, 2012

Zweihander, Braver Fencer Musashi, and Ehrgeiz... something bless the ring.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:52

dis astranagant: Dec 14, 2006

Phantasium posted:

Zweihander, Braver Fencer Musashi, and Ehrgeiz... something bless the ring.

A sequel to that roguelike they bolted onto Ehrgeiz.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 03:59

bloodychill: May 8, 2004; And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life; Exciting Lemon

I was going to say "Einhander" but realized that's what you meant with "Zweihander."

# ? Jul 12, 2016 04:07

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

dis astranagant posted:

A sequel to that roguelike they bolted onto Ehrgeiz.

That would own so hard. When I bought Ehrgeiz I had no idea that part was in the game and I had a ton of fun with it even though it was weird and janky.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 04:32

Indecisive: May 6, 2007

final fantasy mystic quest 2

# ? Jul 12, 2016 04:51

PunkBoy: Aug 22, 2008; You wanna get through this?

Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring is up there with The World Ends with You as one of the greatest video game names of all time.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 05:00

Super No Vacancy: Jul 26, 2012

paladins quest 2

hey enix published it

# ? Jul 12, 2016 05:19

Rirse: May 7, 2006; by R. Guyovich

Indecisive posted:

final fantasy mystic quest 2

Wasn't there some unofficial thing that tried to say it was licensed from Square to do a HD remake of the first game and a sequel?

# ? Jul 12, 2016 06:18

Mezzanon: Sep 16, 2003; Pillbug

Super Mario RPG 2

# ? Jul 12, 2016 06:23

Killing Vector: May 3, 2009

Dewprism/Threads of Fate 2

# ? Jul 12, 2016 07:23

kirbysuperstar: Nov 11, 2012; Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Rirse posted:

Wasn't there some unofficial thing that tried to say it was licensed from Square to do a HD remake of the first game and a sequel?

Yes, and the sequel was an episodic thing with online components and Benjamin changed his name to Zash and made a big deal about it. It was a total scam and hilarious.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 07:28

CeallaSo: May 3, 2013; Wisdom from a Fool

Indecisive posted:

final fantasy mystic quest 2

They should actually do this, but then make it the hardest game in the series. Make sure to get Kenji Ito back to compose too, that guy knows how to rock.

E: Excuse me I meant Ryuji Sasai and Yasuhiro Kawakami; not sure who I got that wrong info from. Ito is still radical though.

CeallaSo fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jul 12, 2016

# ? Jul 12, 2016 07:38

Leal: Oct 2, 2009

Harrow posted:

That would own so hard. When I bought Ehrgeiz I had no idea that part was in the game and I had a ton of fun with it even though it was weird and janky.

More games should increase your stats depending on what your character's diet was on level up.

# ? Jul 12, 2016 07:51