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McSpanky posted:It's especially messed up that this happens in a comic that goes out of its way to call out and dismantle victim blaming. I mean vigilantism is basically victim blaming's big angry older brother, you're justifying murder by saying to yourself that the victims had it coming. Eventually you'll start to notice that a lot of those people who had it coming have similar beliefs, or wear the same clothes, or hang out together... why bother waiting for them to do it, you already know the type. If they didn't want to get murdered they shouldn't have said it/worn it/ganged up like that, know what I mean? #marywasright #bernardgoetzit The really frustrating thing to me is that the comic seemed to understand that Mary's actions were bad as of the barn scene. She is portrayed as unhinged and sadistic. It felt like she was going to be a character who was doing the wrong things, but for understandable reasons. But nope. 8 months later we get Mary giving Alison sad puppy dog eyes and laying down the moral of the chapter. "Vigilante murder is more worthwhile and more moral than going to college to try and figure out how to make a positive difference."
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Alison didn't tell anyone about Mary either, did she? The killings will continue, Alison's going to see in the paper ever so often that there's still men with their throats spontaneously splitting open in the middle of the street, and she'll roll her eyes and carry on. She wasn't particularly picky about her victims either, one only did domestic abuse instead of rape, one was only guilty of being a jerk and one hadn't actually committed any crime yet, they had just been caught probably attempting to commit one and was already going to expelled for it anyways, and she stabbed that guy's roommate. She's pretty capricious with her extra-judicial killings. Hell, with all those high profile mysterious murders that an awful lot of people react to by going all, "Gee whillickers, I'm not going to do all the stabbing myself, but I sure don't mind people being gruesomely murdered in public!" They've basically written the setup for Death Note.
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Jul 9, 2016 19:35
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And now we just see her spectating support groups and going on dates while a super-powered serial killer whose identity is only known by her and a couple others is still on the loose.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Alison didn't tell anyone about Mary either, did she? The killings will continue, Alison's going to see in the paper ever so often that there's still men with their throats spontaneously splitting open in the middle of the street, and she'll roll her eyes and carry on. She wasn't particularly picky about her victims either, one only did domestic abuse instead of rape, one was only guilty of being a jerk and one hadn't actually committed any crime yet, they had just been caught probably attempting to commit one and was already going to expelled for it anyways, and she stabbed that guy's roommate. She's pretty capricious with her extra-judicial killings. I recall that guy was already being sued for sexual assault that he did in a previous school he went to and was running from. So don't worry, 100% guilty! EDIT: Here it is: http://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/2308/ The thing with Mary with me is that at the beginning, it is clear that she was set up to be an anti-Alison: She was trying to change things for the better, yes, but through destructive means that will eventually cause more problems than she can fix. But somewhere along the line, instead of having the natural consequences of that sort of thing happening, they buckle and shrug, and makes it so her killings are 100% JUST TOTALLY PERFECT INFO. Makes me think that Mary has become a pet character. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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Jul 9, 2016 20:17
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HAHAHAHA this loving page.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Alison didn't tell anyone about Mary either, did she? No she did. http://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-149/ On that same page, Mary also tapes her own confession, and in the next page Alison is seen handing it over.
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Jul 9, 2016 21:33
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Mary was still right though. 
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Cat Mattress posted:http://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-6/page-61-3/ I wanted to say that but then I remembered that there are real places in my country where "safe space" means a room filled with tv's playing movies of puppies and children's toys. This is supposed to be for a safe space for adults by the way. It's funny reading the comments because one very enthusiastic person is going around telling people why whenever someone establishes their boundaries it's violent to even question it. Like there's no room for negotiation or even talking through why some words, especially non-slurs, should be stigmatized because one person in the room doesn't like it.
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Brought To You By posted:I wanted to say that but then I remembered that there are real places in my country where "safe space" means a room filled with tv's playing movies of puppies and children's toys. This is supposed to be for a safe space for adults by the way. Hahaha, that guy  
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I enjoy how blatantly wrong his first sentence is. The ability to consider others complexly sounds like theory of mind. Sociopaths typically have incredible theory of mind. The comments that get to me are the responses to people wondering why this support group doesn't seem very supportive. Apparently, it's just normal for support groups to be extremely challenging, difficult spaces. Is this really true? Seems kind of awful if so.
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Clemens is not doing a fantastic job of selling his point of view and mode of thought to people who don't already share it. To the extent that I agree with him I'm embarrassed to be associated.
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edit: doublepost, I am a trash pile
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Wittgen posted:The comments that get to me are the responses to people wondering why this support group doesn't seem very supportive. Apparently, it's just normal for support groups to be extremely challenging, difficult spaces. Is this really true? Seems kind of awful if so. You're taking a bunch of people with their own damages and ways of coping, and hoping that together they can forge something for each of them to use. That is NOT a pretty process, even when it works. And when it doesn't...
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Jul 11, 2016 02:14
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Creepy thread full of dipshits
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*puts back of hand on forehead* Your use of the word thread has triggered me, I do not feel safe
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This page is kinda neat? I mean the idea of pure positivity about something not always helping, countdown till the comic fucks it up.
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I was cringing pretty bad up until the last panel, which I think might be going somewhere much better.
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Flesh Forge posted:I was cringing pretty bad up until the last panel, which I think might be going somewhere much better. The last panel sparked a sliver of hope in a world of madness.
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Yeah that last panel is actually somewhat hopeful. gently caress basing your sense of self worth on your appearance anyway, I've had way too much trouble with that myself to buy into "we're all beautiful" as a good basis for therapy or whatever's going on here.
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Stormgale posted:This page is kinda neat? I mean the idea of pure positivity about something not always helping, countdown till the comic fucks it up. I like it. Fish girl has spent her whole life getting fed the "your body is beautiful" line but doesn't believe it herself. In a room where at least two other people have bodies that defy any human standard for beauty she's in a good place to get another perspective on it.
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Woebin posted:Yeah that last panel is actually somewhat hopeful. gently caress basing your sense of self worth on your appearance anyway, I've had way too much trouble with that myself to buy into "we're all beautiful" as a good basis for therapy or whatever's going on here. Remember, the facilitator for this session is barely twenty, just like all the attendees.
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Jul 12, 2016 15:17
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I find that I like Amanda.
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It's a really fair point because of course she's not conventionally beautiful, she is some kind of anthropomorphic giant fish that barely looks human. What exactly would "you are beautiful" even mean to her from this group beyond some kind of blind positive reinforcement? It's essentially making the word meaningless. I mean, it's fine to not be beautiful, isn't it? It's through no fault of her own. Maybe this support group shouldn't be saying that like it's important to her self worth.
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Jul 12, 2016 15:27
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It's really just Carmen saying that, and frankly, Carmen's kind of... easy to make fun of.
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armadillo girl: Vanessa green girl: Carmen three-eyed girl: Rian blob-in-a-tank girl: Tina Deep One girl: Amanda we're left with giant orange feathery girl, blue girl, and horns girl. Odds on them all being named before this scene is done? and odds on any of them recurring later? (also, I like how, when everyone else raises her hand. Tina raises her tank's little grasping arm. And also, where Amanda points out that she wears a bow specifically to help reduce misgendering... she's also carrying a frilly pink purse.)
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I really liked the art on this page. Specifically the layout of the 4th panel the way it crops out Amanda's head and really forces you to focus on her body and the way she's trying to sit in the smallest most feminine way possible while holding that flowery handbag. That one panel really said a lot about to me about the character's plight without any words at all. I could practically feel the desperation she felt with her situation. And then she actually said some sensible things too. I hope the author doesn't screw this up. Amanda is the first character to be introduced in years that I really want to learn more about.
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Seriously, if this comic could regularly be as good as this page/Chapter 3 it would be one of the best ever.
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It's irregular. Needs more fiber.
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How're the comments?
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Discendo Vox posted:How're the comments? Pretty boring, they're mostly just patting the writer on the back. One thing I've noticed about the comments on this comic though is that a lot of people read way, way too much into it and then go off on tangents thinking what they assume is 100% fact. Like the first one with the green chick, there was one or two people replying to a dozen other people about how she had to have been raped because reasons. On the previous page a ton of people were making all sorts of weird assumptions about the gas person and how turning into a gas must have felt and using that to just shut down comments they didn't like. Weird poo poo.
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Nuebot posted:On the previous page a ton of people were making all sorts of weird assumptions about the gas person and how turning into a gas must have felt and using that to just shut down comments they didn't like. Weird poo poo. I stand by my crazy extrapolations about Tina's traumatic becoming-a-fluid!
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Jul 13, 2016 06:55
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Oh hey, I remember why I started following this comic 
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Jul 13, 2016 17:29
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Cool, I'm actually interested in seeing where things go again. That's refreshing.
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Anyone else confused by that last panel? I have no idea what that is implying but my first thought involved Furnace floating by.
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I just figured it was setting up for the next page, dealing with what made her stop.
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This is a great great page.
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I like this character I think.
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You know, I remember when Cleaver raged about Allison going "Time to put away the toys and grow up" in that interview, I wonder if that will come up. Amanda isn't as unemployable as Cleaver, but she also couldn't have just taken off a goofy domino mask and go have a normal life that easily.
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