|
Check out this ridiculous gear. Not sure where to go from here. Probably can get the abyssal rune without too much difficulty. Would like to get glaciate online eventually but that will take a while.
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 06:50
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 11, 2024 07:46 |
|
|
Ewar Woowar posted:Check out this ridiculous gear. Holy poo poo that gear...did you scum to get it because that might be one of the best non-multi Zigg sets I have ever seen. Really you can go anywhere. Abyss will be a joke and Pan should be a cakewalk barring something incredibly unlucky like being dropped into the middle of hellion island. Actually nevermind you can just slouch it. If you dump all exp into conj and ice magic then even with orange crystal plate glaciate will come online insanely fast, especially doing pan and wrecking lords. Have fun with that readout...might never see another one like it!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 07:02
|
|
|
Ewar Woowar posted:Check out this ridiculous gear. More seriously, that trident's pretty uninspiring unless you're just using it as a statstick. Remember that holy wrath is a percentage damage increase, not a flat increase. Might be worth picking up a higher-tier polearm as melee backup. You have ridiculous defenses & Step From Time so it's not a huge safety issue, but it's nice not taking a year to poke things to death.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 07:21
|
|
|
Person Dyslexic posted:Holy poo poo that gear...did you scum to get it because that might be one of the best non-multi Zigg sets I have ever seen. Funnily enough I've done no scumming at all, just insanely good luck! Yeah I'm putting everything into Ice and Conjurations. 18 and 12 respectively atm. Haifisch posted:+0 pair of boots? Quit and start a new character. Haha yeah the plain boots make me do a little twitching. Hopefully I find something better in a zig or something. I have a +8 demon trident of electrocution but I just cleared out Crypt so went with Holy. Think it's worth using the former? I don't really want to use a two-hander as I haven't found anything great and have 25 points in shields. Given the luck I'm having I'll probably find the Lance soon 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 07:42
|
|
|
 beogh secret power, warbird formation increase flapping speed...!  Ewar Woowar posted:I have a +8 demon trident of electrocution but I just cleared out Crypt so went with Holy. Think it's worth using the former?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 08:02
|
|
|
IronicDongz posted:
I giggled
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 08:18
|
|
|
Gentlemen, I come bearing sad news. The last mountain dwarf has been slain. Wiglaf is no more. quote:Combine Wiglaf and Donald
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 13:59
|
|
|
Person Dyslexic posted:If you dump all exp into conj and ice magic then even with orange crystal plate glaciate will come online insanely fast, especially doing pan and wrecking lords. Have fun with that readout...might never see another one like it! Even with those stats and +1 wiz it's going to take him an eternity to get glaciate online while wearing CPA. With Vehumet (+2 wiz) and regular int (maybe 25ish) you're looking at roughly 22 levels in the relevant skills and high spellcasting to get a level 9 reliable in robes. The extra int helps but it's not going to offset the CPA penalty, which will be huge even with that strength and 27 armour skill.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 14:02
|
|
|
the Orb of Zot posted:Gentlemen, I come bearing sad news. Wiglaf and Donald ought to be merged into Donglaf - a horrible mistake of Cigotuvi's genetic experiments set free to wander the dungeon looking for curemut
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 14:11
|
|
|
Oh, while it was forgotten in the thread, Maud has been merged into Urug. RIP reference to a Nethack reference
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 14:14
|
|
|
Fuckkk the uniques are taking a beating lately. First they came for Norris, and I said a bit because I liked Norris. When they came for Donald and Wiglaf (who used to terrify me) I said nothing because I just heard about it. When they came for Maud I got a bit sad... and then forgot about everything else
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 14:29
|
|
|
Venom mages are so much nicer now that they don't self poison via radiance. It's a shame that it's still awful unless you find ignite poison and/or poison arrow though. Otherwise you better hope you find the tools to change your build and have the racial perks to get good at it fast or very quickly half the monsters you meet become [unkillable, avoid fighting] which is loads of fun. The background would be so much better with ignite poison in the starter book. It wouldn't even be that much of a power creep, meph+ignite is 6 mana and 5 different spell schools, both rely on power a fair deal and the combo is really unreliable at lower power especially if you can't resist meph. Radiance+Ignite is good damage but it's much worse for mana efficiency than just radiance and takes multiple turns of standing still in los of enemies instead of turning radiance on and kiting. Being able to wipe out orc and killer bee packs is neat but it's not worth it when you are totally ineffectual against the many, many enemies with rpois.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 17:31
|
|
|
Wiglaf's hat on Joseph just isn't the same.  Mostly it doesn't take up a comically large portion of the tile anymore, but still.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 17:49
|
|
|
I won't miss Wiglaf at all. the most boring unique. goodbye!!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:06
|
|
|
Are there any uniques that malmut? Also, are people running into less wizlabs lately? I haven't seen one in ages it feels like, though I do usually die stupidly in S branches as I've been trying to get mummy/octopode wins.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:14
|
|
|
pathetic little tramp posted:Are there any uniques that malmut? Mnoleg, but through melee and summoning malmuters
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:26
|
|
|
Yo can we get a unique neqoxec that's like a hydra with 12 heads and each one can malmutate every turn? Thaaaanks
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:30
|
|
|
Actually, I forgot ice devils or whatever can cast torment, because I'd tabbed through single ones of them a bunch and they never did, then in the last room a conga line of them got bored of waiting to face me and 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:33
|
|
|
Let's get a unique Cacodemon who only has Malmutate and Summon Eyeballs as its spell slots. Also permanent Haste on it so it gets to do those spells twice every turn. Also also special combat so it ignores psychically attacking and only ever casts and move. And it shatters all your Potions of cMut on its death. GreyjoyBastard posted:Actually, I forgot ice devils or whatever can cast torment, because I'd tabbed through single ones of them a bunch and they never did, then in the last room a conga line of them got bored of waiting to face me and If the front of the cave is filled with a bunch of demons be prepared for the fiend at the end. World Famous W fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jul 12, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:39
|
|
|
Fitzy Fitz posted:Yo can we get a unique neqoxec that's like a hydra with 12 heads and each one can malmutate every turn? I should make a DCSS branch called DCSS Roulette where every enemy has the power to malmut but malmut is now weighted to give you 50% good mut 50% bad mut.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:39
|
|
|
pathetic little tramp posted:Are there any uniques that malmut? I've been playing for a year and a half and have only ever seen one wizlab the entire time - and it was probably a year or more ago. Granted, I'm not very good, but I wish they popped up more often as I remember thinking how cool it was, flavor-wise, the one time that one appeared.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:45
|
|
|
the Orb of Zot posted:Gentlemen, I come bearing sad news. Some more anti-dwarf bullshit up in here  Never forget that these devs are fundamentally bad people!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:54
|
|
|
People talk sometimes about beogh being not good in zot because the orcs just die, but I'm liable to believe they're just not playing beogh right. Go in with 4 orcs...  Murder everything easily with your 4 orcs, kill 2 Orbs of Fire in a row just by smiting them 4 times...   Get to the orb with 4 orcs...  Chop your way through a brimstone fiend, multiple aliches and a pan lord in a row with your 4 orcs...     Leave dungeon with 4 orcs.  Beogh is powerful, and my good friend. I bless every day these burly handsome orcs carry me above the rabble of the dungeon GreyjoyBastard posted:Actually, I forgot ice devils or whatever can cast torment, because I'd tabbed through single ones of them a bunch and they never did, then in the last room a conga line of them got bored of waiting to face me and  but these dudes(ice fiends) can:  also ice devils only hit for 16 plain+11-32 cold damage, while ice fiends hit for like 25 plain+18-53 cold damage, twice per turn(so up to 106 bonus cold damage). and also have 3d27(81 max) bolt of cold
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 18:55
|
|
|
quote:Remove monster-cast Death's Door
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 20:10
|
|
|
I don't think so, and I'm very glad it's gone. Nergalle was really annoying because of it
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 20:15
|
|
|
It never actually killed me but I could see it working if she had a bunch of spectral summons up and then did the DD
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 21:11
|
|
|
I had to flee a couple times when I was on even terms with Nergalle and then they cast DDoor with at least a couple spectral orc knights or a warlord out. Then I smashed their face in after I skipped that level for a bit and gained a couple more levels. Sage Grimm fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jul 12, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 21:38
|
|
|
demonspawn with lajatang of speed, nightstalker, powered by death, regen amulet and following makhleb... time to immolate V5 e:       I just found the Sword of Power, as well-I might actually skill into using that for kicks with this build. LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 12, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2016 22:44
|
|
|
You realize the Sword of Power is an unbranded great sword that will only have a +17 enchant with your current HP, right?
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 01:00
|
|
|
wouldn't you get ripostes with it, though? that seems cool, and also good. Hey CanOfWorms, I really like your tile-work. Any chance you'd take requests? 
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 02:01
|
|
|
Mara showed up on Snake 4. Welp, guess I'm not getting that rune for a little bit.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 02:08
|
|
|
Can Of Worms posted:You realize the Sword of Power is an unbranded great sword that will only have a +17 enchant with your current HP, right? It's sad how many sweet fixedarts are totally outclassed by a +9 weapon with a decent brand.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 02:11
|
|
|
Can Of Worms posted:You realize the Sword of Power is an unbranded great sword that will only have a +17 enchant with your current HP, right? also it's +24 now and I'm just wading through pan with it. regen amulet+powered by death+mak for HP, with both Augmentation and Sword of Power to reward high HP, is really fun and good  e: died to gloorx but I wasn't even using the sword atm, was just being stupid LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jul 13, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 02:11
|
|
|
A great sword has the same base damage as a lajatang though, so assuming the lajatang is at min delay, with enough enchantments a lajatang of speed will outclass a +20ish great sword.Someone Awful! posted:wouldn't you get ripostes with it, though? that seems cool, and also good.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 05:27
|
|
|
when you get a cool unrand and can get by with it you are, IMO, basically required to use it, especially if it has goofy synergies with other stuff you have
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 05:31
|
|
|
Smdh at not jamming on every unidentified artefact you see & using it until another one takes its place
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 05:43
|
|
|
What's the relationship between the armor skill and how effectively you use armor? Is there any minimum armor skill required to use certain types of armor? I just got a fire dragon armor on a troll so I'm wondering where I should train armor up to. I've got strength in spades so that's not a limitation.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 05:56
|
|
|
Pretty sure armour skill doesn't work that way, just strength.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 05:57
|
|
|
Armor skill does affect how many "your [armor] prevents you from hitting the [thing]" misses you get, but I'd generally ignore that factor unless it's noticably hampering your damage output. In general you want to train armor skill for extra AC, and stop when the returns diminish too much for your tastes.
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 06:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 11, 2024 07:46 |
|
|
Alternatively, play a MiBe and train armour up to 27 because you don't really have that many things to train 
|
|
#
?
Jul 13, 2016 06:30
|
|
