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Mameluke posted:The Aztecs are back as usual, but there's no Native American civ in the Civ IV sense. I think he meant in the sense of Sioux, Iroquois, Shoshone, etc. I keep thinking the Seminole would make a good addition, they even have a prominent leader for it in Osceola.
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Byzantine posted:loving Brazil and not Byzantium? Gotta have civs from all continents, man. Speaking of, where are the penguins?
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Gotta have civs from all continents, man. loving Brazil and not the Inca?
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Byzantine posted:loving Brazil and not the Inca? Where else are you going to hold the
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Byzantine posted:loving Brazil and not Byzantium? Byzantium would be redundant enough with Rome already in. Even more with the Ottomans.
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Echo Chamber posted:Edit: realized it's not entirely alphabetical Are there any that aren't in order? Some people are thinking that first unknown image might be Georgia.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:03
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All the ones we know for certain are in order.
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Negrostrike posted:Byzantium would be redundant enough with Rome already in. Even more with the Ottomans. Better to have a civ that actually did something ever. The Huns weren't even a civilization and they were still a better choice than Brazil.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:26
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I'd prefer some native civ instead of Brazil personally, like the Tupi, because New World colony nations are just too silly. But yeah, we'll always have to deal with bronze-age Americans, so we might as well have Brazil in.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:36
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Brazil is... I don't feel that strongly one way or the other on that one. Inca and other civs are more interesting to me but also, why not.
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Negrostrike posted:I'd prefer some native civ instead of Brazil personally, like the Tupi, because New World colony nations are just too silly. But yeah, we'll always have to deal with bronze-age Americans, so we might as well have Brazil in. I've always wondered if there are people out there who feel super strongly the other way, like somebody who is super salty about Babylon in the modern era.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:43
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Are there any that aren't in order? Some people are thinking that first unknown image might be Georgia.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:44
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I'd like to see more modern nations in, like Canada or Australia or Argentina. The whole bronze-age Americans thing being a downside in my opinion falls apart if you aren't equally annoyed at industrial age Aztecs.
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Who would you pick for a Canadian figurehead? I'm not versed on Canadian politics so the people I was coming up with were all waaaaay too modern.
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Cythereal posted:I'd like to see more modern nations in, like Canada or Australia or Argentina. The whole bronze-age Americans thing being a downside in my opinion falls apart if you aren't equally annoyed at industrial age Aztecs. Or like, the concept of civs as a continuous entity of 6000 years in general
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Or like, the concept of civs as a continuous entity of 6000 years in general
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Jul 13, 2016 06:01
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sarmhan posted:That would be a different game entirely. I just mean like, the core concept of civ doesn't even hold up as historically accurate so people complaining about stone age abe lincoln are never going to win that fight. flatluigi posted:Who would you pick for a Canadian figurehead? I'm not versed on Canadian politics so the people I was coming up with were all waaaaay too modern. Lester B Pearson is the popular pick, arguably lead near Canada's peak world influence, nationally well regarded. Trudeau is probably the best known leader and also lead during an important period for Canada, definitely a big personality which the mentioned being important for their leader picks, but he's politically divisive and also his son is the current PM so that's a no go. King is the longest serving PM and lead during WW2, a time that really bore the birth of a Canadian identity. A less popular pick, John A MacDonald, the head of confederation and an important figure outside of that, he had a few notable scandals but it's been more than 100 years people so don't give a poo poo. His later descent into alcoholism is surprisingly well remembered though. These are 4 decent picks, but also Canada is pretty far down the list of civs that need to be added to the game.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:07
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When Brazil was added in BNW, it was partly considered because of the World Cup. And also the "long overdue" factor. If all goes to plan, it's supposed to be another big year for Brazil, so having Pedro again sort of makes sense. Of course, the Olympics are going to be a huge clusterfuck but... yeah.
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Jul 13, 2016 06:40
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I like Brazil just from a possible mechanics angle. I mean sure World Cup blah blah blah, but it's also a nation that in modern times successfully reinvented and reinvigorated its economy, as well as established an 'artificial' city of millions to centralise its government.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:14
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Brazil also helps selling the game in Brazil, maybe.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:31
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Brazil has certainly been on my subset wish list of post-colonial modern states that I think should be a full civ along with America. So they were a nice addition in BNW and also helped "fill the map". Gran Colombia and Haiti (and to a lesser extent, Argentina) are also on this short list of mine. Also with Brazil, it's nice people stopped trying to argue that America "isn't a real civilization because REASONS".
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Civilization is about immortal avatar aspects representing their nations, comprised of peoples with special powers others cannot wholly replicate, in a blank slate cage match fight to victory. Picking a Civ is less simulating a country and more akin to choosing a fighting game character. What I'm saying here is that I haven't seen any compelling evidence that Civilization's Dom Pedro II can NOT emit an electrical current from his body at will.
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Jul 13, 2016 07:48
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A civ beween Germany and Greece could be the Goths. I've googled a few names that I could remember of the top of my head (Theoderic, Alaric, Berig), but I didn't find anything, it doesn't help that there are basically no contemporary depictions of them. Googling 'Gothic King' is also not very productive thanks to modern day idiots. E1 is some Swedish dude maybe?
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Jul 13, 2016 08:58
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Seems a lot of people on reddit are mad that Catherine de Médicis is the France leader
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What, because she's not French? They should have used Marie-Antoinette for maximum trolling potential. 
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Kassad posted:What, because she's not French? Kurtofan posted:Probably because she's "she".
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Jul 13, 2016 10:27
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If we don't get South Sudan or Timor-Leste I'm gunna be fuckin pissed
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webmeister posted:If we don't get South Sudan or Timor-Leste I'm gunna be fuckin pissed Luxembourg or bust. 
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Jul 13, 2016 11:20
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I am disappointed in any French leader who is not le roi de soleil. Nappy can die in a fire.
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Jul 13, 2016 11:22
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loving Russia and not Tannu Tuva?
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Jul 13, 2016 11:57
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Kurtofan posted:Seems a lot of people on reddit are mad that Catherine de Médicis is the France leader It's a little hosed up if you view it from the point of view of them looking for a French leader that isn't Napoleon and settling on an Italian.
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Grapplejack posted:It's a little hosed up if you view it from the point of view of them looking for a French leader that isn't Napoleon and settling on an Italian. Well Napoleon was kind of an Italian himself so... I think it's the best choice for a French female leader though, I was really afraid we were going to get Joan of Arc again.
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Jul 13, 2016 12:23
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They've got a German as the leader of England, so
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Jul 13, 2016 12:55
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And a Greek for Egyptian leader. Globalism
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They were at least born in their respective countries Medici was born in Florence, so... It's a little weird is all I'm saying
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She does seem like she'll be a really fun AI leader to deal with though, so I'm looking forward to that.
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I bought Civ 1 when I was 12, and the Civs included are super iconic for me. I get really, really crabby when they don't include Shaka of the Zulu.  It's just not Civ without Zulu tanks.
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When will Pitcairn Island get represented in Civilization?
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canyoneer posted:When will Pitcairn Island get represented in Civilization? Led by Fletcher Christian
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Hogama posted:What I'm saying here is that I haven't seen any compelling evidence that Civilization's Dom Pedro II can NOT emit an electrical current from his body at will. Okay, now I want Ryu to lead the Japanese civ. An entire Street Fighter mod would probably work shockingly well, especially if you could rip the models/animations from Street Fighter 4. Unique Ability: Yoga Limbs. All melee units have range 2 but 50% health. Unique Ability: Electric Thunder. Start the game with Electricity tech unlocked. Unique Ability: Super Armor. All units ignore zone of control when moving. Unique Ability: Bad Stone. Melee units can make a range-1 ranged attack.
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