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Bisse: Jun 26, 2005

SirPenguin posted:

The more I read on the quest system the more anxious I get

I like my RPG content to be akin to a checklist. A system in which I am just continuously locked out of content as I spend time elsewhere is going to make it way more stressful than it should be. How can you enjoy a quest if you know that others are being automatically failed as a punishment?

e: on second thought, a system that essentially punishes people for playing the game is a very poetic and relevant to Barkley 2's overall goal of punishing people who want to enjoy it

I was about to write up a more detailed explanation, but it's better if you all experience the game by playing it. But in summary, it's literally impossible to experience the entire game in one playthrough, and that's kind of the point. Everyone who plays the game will have a unique experience. If you really want to experience the entire game (as in all quests), or to find better/different outcomes for quests you weren't satisfied with, you'll need to play through the game several times. Some might call this 'replay value', but personally I call it 'just a depressingly bad game'.

Bisse fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Jul 12, 2016

# ? Jul 12, 2016 10:11

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# ? May 30, 2024 22:46

HMS Boromir: Jul 16, 2011; by Lowtax

Bisse posted:

it's literally impossible to experience the game

good to have confirmation of this

# ? Jul 12, 2016 10:25

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

Bisse posted:

I was about to write up a more detailed explanation, but it's better if you all experience the game by playing it. But in summary, it's literally impossible to experience the entire game in one playthrough, and that's kind of the point. Everyone who plays the game will have a unique experience. If you really want to experience the entire game (as in all quests), or to find better/different outcomes for quests you weren't satisfied with, you'll need to play through the game several times. Some might call this 'replay value', but personally I call it 'just a depressingly bad game'.

when's all quests speedrun WR

# ? Jul 12, 2016 19:41

randomcommoner: Sep 6, 2006; it's a-me

You guys added geocaching to the game yet?

# ? Jul 12, 2016 20:02

Friend Commuter: Nov 3, 2009; SO CLEVER I WANT TO FUCK MY OWN BRAIN.; Smellrose

randomcommoner posted:

You guys added geocaching to the game yet?

yes, in fact the recommended way to play is to bury it miles away from your house and encourage someone else to dig it up

# ? Jul 12, 2016 20:26

Mr.Pibbleton: Feb 3, 2006; Aleuts rock, chummer.

Bisse posted:

I was about to write up a more detailed explanation, but it's better if you all experience the game by playing it. But in summary, it's literally impossible to experience the entire game in one playthrough, and that's kind of the point. Everyone who plays the game will have a unique experience. If you really want to experience the entire game (as in all quests), or to find better/different outcomes for quests you weren't satisfied with, you'll need to play through the game several times. Some might call this 'replay value', but personally I call it 'just a depressingly bad game'.

It made me a little sad to find out that most people didn't bother to play through all the starting options on Dragon Age: Origins and the most popular choice was human noble.

# ? Jul 13, 2016 00:14

owl milk: Jun 28, 2011

that one was advertised as being "like game of thrones" so of course it'd be more popular

# ? Jul 13, 2016 02:34

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Bisse posted:

it's better if you all experience the game by playing it

lol

# ? Jul 13, 2016 14:07

Mr.Pibbleton: Feb 3, 2006; Aleuts rock, chummer.

owl milk posted:

that one was advertised as being "like game of thrones" so of course it'd be more popular

I can only hope Barkley 2 handles romance with the same grace as game of thrones and dragon age did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNRaTejGNps

# ? Jul 13, 2016 14:29

BinaryDoubts: Jun 6, 2013; Looking at it now, it really is disgusting. The flesh is transparent. From the start, I had no idea if it would even make a clapping sound. So I diligently reproduced everything about human hands, the bones, joints, and muscles, and then made them slap each other pretty hard.

I still can't believe they promised more regular updates with a regular schedule and then immediately stopped after two.

This pretty much sums up the game's development, tbh

# ? Jul 14, 2016 19:06

Mr.Pibbleton: Feb 3, 2006; Aleuts rock, chummer.

At least the sprite art was neat.

# ? Jul 15, 2016 06:18

Ryaomon: Mar 19, 2007; Ask me about being a racist piece of shit with a racist gimmick

In the time it's taken for this game to be made From Software made 2 Souls games and Bloodborne.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 00:31

Roobanguy: May 31, 2011

Ryaomon posted:

In the time it's taken for this game to be made From Software made 2 Souls games and Bloodborne.

i guess that just goes to show quality takes time

# ? Jul 16, 2016 00:37

kikkelivelho: Aug 27, 2015

Ryaomon posted:

In the time it's taken for this game to be made From Software made 2 Souls games and Bloodborne.

Quality over quantity friend

# ? Jul 16, 2016 13:23

Philip Rivers: Mar 15, 2010

kikkelivelho posted:

Quality over quantity friend

In the case of Barkley 2 this produces a divide by zero error.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 21:55

Khorne: May 1, 2002

BinaryDoubts posted:

I still can't believe they promised more regular updates with a regular schedule and then immediately stopped after two.

This pretty much sums up the game's development, tbh

Regular updates are very trend and corporate attitude.

# ? Jul 16, 2016 23:14

Convex: Aug 19, 2010

Every time i see an update for this game it sounds like when Tom Arnold kept saying True Lies 2 was in production and it was gonna be some crazy poo poo. Now Arnold is old and James Cameron is making 4 sequels to his lovely 3D blue cat movie and also 9/11 happened.

Basically this game is gonna be cool as poo poo and also kickstart Tom Arnolds career

# ? Jul 16, 2016 23:15

100 HOGS AGREE: Oct 13, 2007; Grimey Drawer

If Homestuck can get finished before the heat death of the universe then certainly this dumb game can too.

# ? Jul 17, 2016 03:09

Gravitas Shortfall: Jul 17, 2007; Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

If Homestuck can get finished before the heat death of the universe then certainly this dumb game can too.

You heard it here first, Barkley 2 is going to be 7 minutes of disappointing anime

# ? Jul 17, 2016 03:16

captain innocuous: Apr 7, 2009

2323 here we come.

# ? Jul 17, 2016 03:48

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

I am confident that ToG will have this game come out before James Cameron gets around to making Battle Angel.

# ? Jul 17, 2016 04:30

NmareBfly: Jul 16, 2004; I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Nessus posted:

I am confident that ToG will have this game come out before James Cameron gets around to making Battle Angel.

So they're going to farm it out to a lovely developer team so they can make more furry escapist porn instead?

# ? Jul 17, 2016 04:47

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

So does the first game work on windows 10?

# ? Jul 19, 2016 04:07

100 HOGS AGREE: Oct 13, 2007; Grimey Drawer

BillmasterCozb posted:

So does the first game work on windows 10?

Actually yes, it does. I replayed it earlier this year.

Hasn't been updated to DirectX 11 yet tho.

# ? Jul 19, 2016 04:13

Mr.Pibbleton: Feb 3, 2006; Aleuts rock, chummer.

BillmasterCozb posted:

So does the first game work on windows 10?

Yes and it plays best in full screen mode.

# ? Jul 19, 2016 04:19

Trabandiumium: Feb 20, 2010

make sure you upgrade to a 1080 first

# ? Jul 19, 2016 12:02

FrankieSmileShow: Jun 1, 2011; wuzzathang

Streaming some pixelart work on Barkley2 right now, drawing some of the last assets we need for Tir Na Nog, some missing animated NPC portraits.
https://www.twitch.tv/frankiepixelshow

# ? Jul 21, 2016 00:03

Lamprey Cannon: Jul 23, 2011; by exmarx

I know it's been like a year since CBoyardee posted in this thread, but I was wondering about this game 'The Screamer', a Japanese Dungeon crawler for the PC-88. There's some text in there that caught my eye:

Also, what elements of this cyberpunk adventure will be incorporated into Barkley 2?

# ? Jul 22, 2016 07:56

Gortarius: Jun 6, 2013; idiot

Character: Quickly

# ? Jul 22, 2016 08:14

Chas McGill: Oct 29, 2010; loves Fat Philippe

Not a character those togsters can relate to...

# ? Jul 22, 2016 12:04

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

well i just beat barkley shut up and jam gaiden, and all i can say is "what"

# ? Jul 23, 2016 04:34

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

other goon project starbound actually updated WHATS YOUR EXCUSE, TOG

# ? Jul 23, 2016 06:51

spit on my clit: Jul 19, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Uncle Wemus posted:

other goon project starbound actually updated WHATS YOUR EXCUSE, TOG

TOG is actually making sure their game works

probably

# ? Jul 23, 2016 07:03

Khorne: May 1, 2002

BillmasterCozb posted:

TOG is actually making sure their game works

probably

At some point they decided to just keep working on the game until they couldn't work on it anymore.

That and they have no actual release schedule or publisher pressure so they're just working on stuff instead of cutting features and content to make a deadline.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jul 23, 2016

# ? Jul 23, 2016 07:35

Ice To Meet You: Mar 5, 2007

Here's an update.

bballbisse posted:

So there�s a memory leak with enemies at the moment which causes the game to crash after playing it for around an hour depending on how much combat you encounter and how much RAM your computer has.
Memory leaks are normal and tracking them down is standard dev work. With Game Maker though, finding these memory leaks is a nightmare.
Finding leaks in any language is tough, but what makes it harder with GM is that there is no tooling whatsoever to help. There are no tools to show what is allocating your memory, or metrics on allocation/deallocation, etc. The only number you have is current memory usage in MB.
So tracking down memory leaks is very much manual work, moreso than usual. Turn on the game, enter/exit a room, watch memory go up and down. Track the difference and see how much you�re leaking. Inspect every part of your code and look for obvious issues. After that, turn on/off features you think are leaking, and check the difference in leaked MB�s. Repeat until it�s down to zero.
Not glamourous work, but finding and plugging a leak after a long time is pretty satisfying, and you learn a lot in the process.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 17:14

funk_mata: Nov 1, 2005; I'm hot for you and you're hot for me--ooka dooka dicka dee.; Clapping Larry

I'll just install 64Gb of RAM to play Barkley 2, what's the big deal? :smug:

# ? Jul 23, 2016 18:30

Admiral H. Curtiss: May 11, 2010; I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.

So wait, GameMaker makes you do your own memory management, but has no debugging tools for when you inevitably make a mistake somewhere? Geez, that sounds awful.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 18:39

kikkelivelho: Aug 27, 2015

CIG just released a ton of new info on Star Citizen and they're going to have a massive demo at Games Com. It's good to see there are still kickstarters that respect their customers

# ? Jul 23, 2016 19:16

kikkelivelho: Aug 27, 2015

Memory leaks are a nice feature and all but maybe you ToGsters could finally reveal what type of procedural technologies Barkley 2 is going to use

# ? Jul 23, 2016 19:22

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Fayez Butts: Aug 24, 2006

kikkelivelho posted:

Memory leaks are a nice feature and all but maybe you ToGsters could finally reveal what type of procedural technologies Barkley 2 is going to use

The Gun's System

# ? Jul 23, 2016 19:54

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