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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thallium_poisoning The poisoner's poison! Colorless, odorless, tasteless, slow-acting, and make's the victim's hair fall out. The article includes a section titled "Australia's 'Thallium Craze'".
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Oh man, I haven't watched The Young Poisoner's Handbook in 15 years. Quite a good movie as I recall.
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Syd Midnight posted:I did not eat the fish, which were horrible half-amphibian catfish that look you in the eye and hiss then try to crawl back into the water. It all dumps into Lake Erie next to the nuclear power plant so who cares, jesus. If Godzilla is real, he won't emerge from the Pacific, because there's no way he's not coming out of Lake Erie.
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Jul 9, 2016 10:45
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This seems FOOFy in the etc. way. My dad and his friends all pitched in for a boat in the 70s which they used in Lake Erie. When water skiing, the driver would try to make the skier fall into algal mats or garbage patches.
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Jul 9, 2016 13:09
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Syd Midnight posted:You forgot about the amnesia, so they forget they've re-dosed and think "Oh hey I think I'll take some" while eyeballing the amount with less accuracy each time. And this cycle continuing for days. Someone needs to post a dump of all the crazy RC/joose posts.
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Jul 9, 2016 19:35
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Yeah, of all the things crazy people could easily brew up in a bathtub, VX is more or less off the table.
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A White Guy posted:If you do find reliable information, good luck getting those ingredients and handling them in a safe manner (I'll give you a hint, one of these ingredients is white phosphorus) Secondly, it's ingredients all react to form wonderfully poisonous things on their own, so good luck synthesizing it in your bathtub without killing yourself/your entire neighborhood - for example, one of the possible contaminants is sarin (the nerve gas), so uh, be careful with that. Finally, you need specialized equipment to spread it in a manner that would harm people, like specially designed artillery shells fired from a 155mm howitzer. And, if you spill this poo poo all of over your floor and don't die, the decomposition of VX from sunlight yields other, toxic nerve gases. Fun stuff. I might be missing something here, but if you're going to be producing VX, a bit of sarin contamination on the way there sounds unlikely to make that much difference to the outcome. Either you're perfect at containment and survive, or you're not and you die horribly; if it's from the VX or sarin seems sort of secondary.
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Computer viking posted:I might be missing something here, but if you're going to be producing VX, a bit of sarin contamination on the way there sounds unlikely to make that much difference to the outcome. Either you're perfect at containment and survive, or you're not and you die horribly; if it's from the VX or sarin seems sort of secondary. What I'm trying to say is that, producing VX and Sarin isn't really all that difficult. Producing it in a manner that doesn't lead to your quick and vicious death is. Secondly, even if you make a dangerous chemical weapon, you have to spread it correctly to kill a lot of people with it - VX, for example, takes very specialized equipment to kill a lot of people, so too does Sarin. If you're going to manufacture dangerous chemicals that are also simultaneously difficult to spread, why not just skip the whole really deadly chemical weapons and go straight to tried and true explosives?
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It made relative sense for Aum Shrinkiyo but that was because they had actual chemists and experts in their number, and were working towards mass scale NBC warfare to bring about the apocalypse. There's a reason they're the startling minority of terrorist gas attacks, and even they had real trouble aerosolizing it for the subway attack (though they did manage it with their earlier truck-based attack.)
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Belgian researchers found traces of TATP (triacetone triperoxide) in the blood of the Brussels suicide bombers. TATP is an extremely explosive compound that can be synthesized relatively simply from regular store products. For that reason it's "popular" in bombs used by terrorists, at least in Europe. It decomposes when it explodes, but before that, it's also toxic. Now, they suspect that TATP enters the bloodstream during the preparation of bombs. That means, they believe they can find terrorists before they blow anything up by testing the blood of potential suspects for TATP. Interesting find. However, I don't have any clue if it's legally possible to draw blood from potential suspects who haven't done anything yet. And if they change laws to make it possible, what consequences that has for innocent people. Authorities always seem to find a way to abuse any new powers they're given.
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Carbon dioxide posted:
Christ, we've already crossed that line here, for DUI suspects. In some cases they have judges at the checkpoints to sign warrants straight off.
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Jul 10, 2016 14:49
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Phanatic posted:Christ, we've already crossed that line here, for DUI suspects. In some cases they have judges at the checkpoints to sign warrants straight off.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Belgian researchers found traces of TATP (triacetone triperoxide) in the blood of the Brussels suicide bombers. TATP is an extremely explosive compound that can be synthesized relatively simply from regular store products. For that reason it's "popular" in bombs used by terrorists, at least in Europe. It decomposes when it explodes, but before that, it's also toxic.
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From the comic strip megathread Out Our Way With The Willets (May 8, 1927) 
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Phanatic posted:Christ, we've already crossed that line here, for DUI suspects. In some cases they have judges at the checkpoints to sign warrants straight off. Gobbeldygook posted:That's so 20th century. Judges are now 'on call' and have ipads. If you need a warrant at 3 AM, you send pics of the relevant documents to the judge and signs off on it real quick. We just need a neat hat, a sick gun and a permantent scowl and we'll live in the future! 
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atomicthumbs posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thallium_poisoning Wikipedia posted:(which led to its initial use as a depilatory before its toxicity was properly appreciated)
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I went to NHRA qualifying Friday night and watched top fuel and funny cars run up and down the strip. I forgot how insane those cars were. They're so loud it blurs your vision. If you've never seen nitromethane powered cars before, go check it out sometime. Even if you have no interest in cars or racing. If you like this thread you should enjoy it.
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honda whisperer posted:If you've never seen nitromethane powered cars before, go check it out sometime. Even if you have no interest in cars or racing. If you like this thread you should enjoy it. This thread has taught me that more nitros = more better. One nitro is clearly not enough. Where's the german test track with dinitromethane powered cars?
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In a vaporized orbit
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The Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitaneberg Ring
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:The Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitaneberg Ring I think you mean the Hexanitrohexaazoisowurtzitane Nordschleife  . That's the real reason why the whole loop stopped getting run, the cars couldn't finish the Gesamtstrecke. There's also the much shorter GP-Strecke which is that length because that's how long the hexadecanitrofullerene cars can make it. And that's why they lengthened it in 2001, the cars improved  .
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Do you think the Germans that discovered hexadecanitrofullerene had an Oppenheimer "what have I done" moment? Is a 16-nitrogen soccer ball enough?
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Do you think the Germans that discovered hexadecanitrofullerene had an Oppenheimer "what have I done" moment? Is a 16-nitrogen soccer ball enough? No, they need bigger ones with little ones inside it. like a Russian doll of angry nitrogen.
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Hexadecamatryoshkanitrofullerine?
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KennyTheFish posted:No, they need bigger ones with little ones inside it. like a Russian doll of angry nitrogen. What's German for Recursive Death Ball of Bad Decisions?
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Taerkar posted:What's German for Recursive Death Ball of Bad Decisions?
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Do you think the Germans that discovered hexadecanitrofullerene had an Oppenheimer "what have I done" moment? Is a 16-nitrogen soccer ball enough? No. The German who discovered it was this guy, Thomas Klapotke, who goes to work like this.  This is an interview he did with a chemistry journal: My favorite subject at school was … chemistry. The most significant advance of the last 100 years has been … rocket propulsion. The biggest problem that scientists face is … being misunderstood by the public. Looking back over my career, I … would change nothing. The most important future applications of my research … are defense oriented. My work is significant because … it promotes peace. The worst advice I have ever been given … was to forget about main-group chemistry and to do exclusively organometallic chemistry. I would have liked to have discovered … the element fluorine. If I could be a piece of lab equipment, I would be … a distillation collecting flask. The most groundbreaking discovery in science in the past 100 years has been … quantum mechanics. My favorite composer is … Gustav Mahler. If I could be described as an animal … I would be a penguin.
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Of course he likes Mahler.
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VanSandman posted:Of course he likes Mahler. Gonna need a breakdown of this one.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Gonna need a breakdown of this one. Mahler's 1st Symphony instructs the horns to stand up in the grand finale and bring the house down.
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KennyTheFish posted:No, they need bigger ones with little ones inside it. like a Russian doll of angry nitrogen. 16-nitrofullerene wrapped around a crystal of CL-20 with a nitromethane inside that.
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VanSandman posted:Mahler's 1st Symphony instructs the horns to stand up in the grand finale and bring the house down. Enourmo posted:16-nitrofullerene wrapped around a crystal of CL-20 with a nitromethane inside that. That'll bring down the house, and then some.
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There's explosive, and then there's so explosive you can't actually measure it on the scale, so the head of the department gets very cross with you after you blow up two pieces of very expensive lab equipment on the same day.
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Dinitromethane is surprisingly stable. So are tri- and tetranitromethane (the latter is actually used as a diesel fuel additive, and you can't get the pure substance to explode).
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Kwyndig posted:That'll bring down the house, and then some. I expect you'd find that most of the house would be going up.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I expect you'd find that most of the house would be going up. as long as the house goes up who cares where it comes down, that's not my department says thomas klapotke
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Zemyla posted:Dinitromethane is surprisingly stable. So are tri- and tetranitromethane (the latter is actually used as a diesel fuel additive, and you can't get the pure substance to explode). All the nitros are pulling to try and get away at the same time and ends up being metastable? Kinda like trinitrotoluene (TNT).
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UberJew posted:as long as the house goes up who cares where it FTFY
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1812 Overture would work well too- replace the cannons with the explosions of the analytical instruments/screams of grad students/glass shattering
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thank you, i couldn't think of a rhyme for klapotke and just gave up
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