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Pham Nuwen posted:Equalizers provided an unparalleled opportunity to turn whatever you're listening to into a muddy, booming mess.  "My EQ curve looks like ^_^? Awesome let's call it a day"
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Jul 13, 2016 17:51
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It's a real sign of how fast EQ died when the single greatest EQ plugin for Winamp is/has been at version 0.17 for over a decade; the "about" popup directs you to the creator's Geocities site.
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Jul 13, 2016 18:04
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I'd rather spend my money on overpriced headphones to listen to 96kbps streaming music on my cellular telephone. e: Just realized this will be what a lot of people will get hard nostalgia feels or whatever on in the future.
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Jul 13, 2016 18:11
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The trick to make EQ not suck is to always use negative bias, especially with digital eq where the signal will clip really harshly if you max the volume, and only do subtle changes. I use a big fat lowpass filter for casual listening because it makes my tiny computer speakers sound much bigger than they are, the tradeoff is that my max volume is much lower than it could have been but that's ok. It's one of the perks of having an ancient firewire studio sound interface I guess 
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Jul 13, 2016 18:14
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I haven't seen a car yet that doesn't have at least a bass and treble slider. Of course most people never touch it. I feel like most stock car systems today are designed to make rap, r&b, edm, etc sound good but rock will sound like a compressed, muddy mess.
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Jul 13, 2016 18:22
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I can't tell the difference between literally any EQ settings I've ever tried beyond "bass up/down". It's me, I'm the KIDS THESE DAYS with the SOME GIZMO that is ruining apprecation of REAL ART.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:38
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420 scooped mids everyday.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:50
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I remember downloading equalizer profiles for foobar2000 and finding this one and it makes everything sound pretty crisp because all I've ever had were dinky little laptop/portable speakers  
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Jul 13, 2016 19:55
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error1 posted:The trick to make EQ not suck is to always use negative bias, especially with digital eq where the signal will clip really harshly if you max the volume, and only do subtle changes. Lol Mark Of The Unicorn, I'd forgotten about them! I'm also a FireWire interface buddy, but I went with RME (FireFace 800 specifically). E: from the audio computer world, dongles have gotta be relics nowadays. I have Logic Pro 7 and iLok dongles, and the annoyance of having to use a USB hub on my MacBook just to utilize the goddamn audio programs and a separate mouse pushed me to switch to Ableton Live and its dongle-free lifestyle. I think Waves finally ditched the iLok, but by that point I'd given up on them since they kept on hounding me for $ to get updates/any kind of support for the plugins, which was lovely when you look at how much they cost to begin with. The Gasmask has a new favorite as of 20:45 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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Jul 13, 2016 20:36
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Cojawfee posted:Kids today have iphone docks with speakers. Equalizers probably died in the 90s because of car stereos. People have an unamplified head unit in their honda with 2-4 lovely speakers. In order to be able to listen to the music, the record company has to compress the song into something car stereos can play. I think having more dynamic range has been coming back recently but it didn't help that we went from lovely car stereos to poo poo quality MP3s. There's like a 20 year span where people accept listening to terrible quality music. I was thinking about this after my last post and one way to look at it is there was a 10 year high point when CDs were everywhere, car and home, but the mp3 player had not yet been invented. Prior to CDs people ran cassettes in their cars so mobile sound was poor then too, though I don't know how a compressed file would compare to a good fresh tape.
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Jul 13, 2016 20:43
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Brand new cassettes with a -good- car tape deck were still fairly crappy on the high frequencies, and the loving hiss would screw up music with a ton of hi/low dynamics, like classical. And with well-used tapes played on standard mediocre car decks, you just lost all the highs. But lovely low-bitrate MP3's have a really weird, disturbing "clang" effect to cymbals and higher frequency vocals that bugs the living poo poo out of me far worse than mediocre cassette quality. It might be because I grew up listening to cheap tapes, though, never had the money or the 'tism to be an 'audiophile'. High-bitrate mp3's sound, to me, better than any cassette ever did, but everybody has their own opinion on audio.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:01
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After reading these equalizer posts I have now doubled the amount of time I've spent in my life ever thinking about music sound settings.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:02
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drunk asian neighbor posted:It's a real sign of how fast EQ died when the single greatest EQ plugin for Winamp is/has been at version 0.17 for over a decade; the "about" popup directs you to the creator's Geocities site. I always pronounced it Geo-Cities but one time I heard someone pronounce it like it rhymed with atrocities (which may have been more accurate for it's content).
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Jul 13, 2016 21:06
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Sten Freak posted:Prior to CDs people ran cassettes in their cars so mobile sound was poor then too, though I don't know how a compressed file would compare to a good fresh tape. Old cassettes? gently caress you might as well have stuck pillows on your speakers, Especially if you had Dolby NR on. I think my first audio sperg moment came when I used the GameBoy headphones with Tetris for the first time. The exact same music sounds way better than coming out of the little GB speaker  Then finding out the SNES actually had bass that my little TV was murdering. 
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Jul 13, 2016 21:11
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Plug a Gameboy into a big stereo, it's magical and funny.
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Jul 13, 2016 21:22
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8 track betamax posted:After reading these equalizer posts I have now doubled the amount of time I've spent in my life ever thinking about music sound settings. 
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Jul 13, 2016 21:53
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JnnyThndrs posted:But lovely low-bitrate MP3's have a really weird, disturbing "clang" effect to cymbals and higher frequency vocals that bugs the living poo poo out of me far worse than mediocre cassette quality. It might be because I grew up listening to cheap tapes, though, never had the money or the 'tism to be an 'audiophile'. "HD Radio" seems to have this too, especially if the signal is a little bit sketchy; I've had songs come on that had such a harsh note to the cymbals and other high-frequency components that I had to hit the button to switch back to regular FM. I'd leave it set on regular (non-digital) FM all the time but the drat thing re-enables it every time you change stations and there's no setting to say "just loving leave it turned off thanks".
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Jul 13, 2016 22:14
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Lowen SoDium posted:I always pronounced it Geo-Cities but one time I heard someone pronounce it like it rhymed with atrocities (which may have been more accurate for it's content). Also I pretty much turn the treble up and the bass down on every volume equalizer thing I have ever encountered. I think my brain's bass receptors are broken, since what other people perceive as pleasantly booming I just hear it drowning out the melody or whatever. So yes, my EQ generally looked like uh code:Oh wait, nobody asks anymore because I do not have any friends 
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Jul 13, 2016 22:41
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audio casettes typically sounded pretty poor, even when new, but some configurations like Dobly S apparently sounded pretty good. Techmoan has a great video about it imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoSQP2yUYA
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Jul 13, 2016 23:18
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i'm HTC corporation and what's an equalizer?
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Jul 13, 2016 23:26
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Mechanism Eight posted:i'm HTC corporation and what's an equalizer? An equalizer: now needed for cellphone speakers. The HTC One has the best speakers I've ever heard in a phone, regardless.
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Jul 13, 2016 23:43
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wallaka posted:An equalizer: now needed for cellphone speakers. I would argue that the shittier the speakers, the more improvement you can squeeze out of a solid EQ setting.
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Jul 13, 2016 23:46
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Sten Freak posted:I was thinking about this after my last post and one way to look at it is there was a 10 year high point when CDs were everywhere, car and home, but the mp3 player had not yet been invented. Speak for yourself, my brother and I built *amazing* speaker boxes with parts sourced from Radio Shack. That cassette hiss was crystal clear.
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Jul 13, 2016 23:49
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I kinda miss tape hiss now. My dad had these tapes of old radio shows that included a "soundburst" at the start of the cassette that supposedly let you calibrate your stereo equipment and mentally chart the slow sad destruction of your recording's quality.
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Jul 14, 2016 00:18
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wallaka posted:An equalizer: now needed for cellphone speakers. But yeah, the One series sets the bar with solidly, erm... 'laptop-quality' speakers. Terrible, but slightly less terrible than everyone else's
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Jul 14, 2016 00:24
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If you want to fall into a bizarrely long (seriously) rabbit hole, The Loser Living Upstairs predates pretty much all public blogs and trumps them by sheer length alone: http://losernet.tripod.com/loser.html He just would not stop writing, I think he only stopped in like, 2006, which is 10 years, and it all started because he lived under someone that flushed the toilet too much.
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Jul 14, 2016 00:48
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Casimir Radon posted:Plug a Gameboy into a car stereo, it's magical and funny.
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Jul 14, 2016 01:01
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I used to plug my GBA into my stereo receiver when I played WarioWare, and "magical" really is the only word for it.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:25
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I always played my game boy with headphones so the Pokemon music is seared into my synapses.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:34
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EQs are okay but don't boost with them, if you want to hear more of something turn your whole volume up then cut with the EQ where it's too much.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:16
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Equalizers exist to shut up the assholes who would otherwise endlessly opine about The Loudness Wars.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:42
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Guy Mann posted:Equalizers exist to shut up the assholes who would otherwise endlessly opine about The Loudness Wars. Those two things really don't have much to do with each other e: rear end in a top hat
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Jul 14, 2016 03:57
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Sten Freak posted:Most devices today (phones I guess) have volume. Do they even have bass treble sliders? I don't think my phone does - I've never seen it but never looked for it to be fair. The default "Music Player" app on my old Samsung Galaxy S2 has a "SoundAlive" setting with some options like "Normal", "Pop", "Rock", "Concert hall", "Custom" and "Auto" (what the hell, how does the phone decide?). "Custom" gives you a 7 channel equalizer and some extra settings: "3D", "Bass", "Reverb level", "Room size" and "Clarity". If you set any of the levels in the equalizer positive, it seems to reduce the volume. What if I actually want distortion?  quote:E: ANyone remember quadraphonic sound? A few years ago my dad said he knows a guy with a quadrophonic system. Thanks for listening to my story.
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Jul 14, 2016 08:10
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Armacham posted:I always played my game boy with headphones so the Pokemon music is seared into my synapses.
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Jul 14, 2016 08:32
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I'm old enough to have watched Mr. Ed on Nickelodeon and watched an episode where the guy who owned the talking horse promise him he'd install a quadraphonic sound system in his horse barn.
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Jul 14, 2016 08:34
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In storage at my parents I have a room full of antique Marantz audio gear that I bought off a guy who was a Hi-Fi tech in the 1970s. the 510M power amp the 150 oscilloscope tuner so you could tune stations visually and examine your eq settings on the tube, it even has a switch so it displays quad inputs. The 3200 preamp an additional amp that acts as a +2 to allow rear channels for a quad setup A pair of Ohm I speakers I haven't turned it on in years and am afraid it'll pop all the capacitors when i do.
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Jul 14, 2016 09:08
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Pubic Lair posted:In storage at my parents I have a room full of antique Marantz audio gear that I bought off a guy who was a Hi-Fi tech in the 1970s. I know some people at Marantz that would be probably delighted to help if they can. Even if it is just old service manuals/schematics.
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Jul 14, 2016 09:17
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Thanks for the offer, I'll probably just give it a shot sometime and see if it's still working. The problem is that I have 30ish other components stacked in front of the Marantz gear that need to go on ebay before I can get to the Marantz setup. It all probably needs to be looked over and the guy I got if from is who I used to have fix my stereo equipment and he passed away a few years ago so I'll probably have to learn how to do it myself.
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Jul 14, 2016 09:41
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Pubic Lair posted:Thanks for the offer, I'll probably just give it a shot sometime and see if it's still working. The problem is that I have 30ish other components stacked in front of the Marantz gear that need to go on ebay before I can get to the Marantz setup. It all probably needs to be looked over and the guy I got if from is who I used to have fix my stereo equipment and he passed away a few years ago so I'll probably have to learn how to do it myself. I'll reach out to Nigel at least anyway and give him a list of what you have. EDIT: Email sent with what you have. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 10:53 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Jul 14, 2016 10:47
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