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Brady posted:Not sure what you mean. Also not sure if that was a stupid question to ask or not in the first place, sorry. I've seen tax services and the like on here so I didn't think it was too far-fetched. he was making a joke about morally bankrupt services. We all provide that, because we are all morally bankrupt. Well, not all of us. Most of us, though.
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Mr. Nice! posted:he was making a joke about morally bankrupt services. We all provide that, because we are all morally bankrupt. Well, not all of us. Most of us, though. Ah, duh. ::woosh::
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Jul 12, 2016 18:23
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I don't know of any Kansas lawyer goons off the top of my head, but there very well might be. You might have just as much luck in the phone book. Good luck with your bankruptcy, though!
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Jul 12, 2016 18:29
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't know of any Kansas lawyer goons off the top of my head, but there very well might be. You might have just as much luck in the phone book. Good luck with your bankruptcy, though! Thanks!  
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Jul 12, 2016 18:34
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Mr. Nice! posted:he was making a joke about morally bankrupt services. We all provide that, because we are all morally bankrupt. Well, not all of us. Most of us, though. At least all the traffic lawyers. You know who you are. 
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Jul 12, 2016 19:28
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I refuse to bow to the calls of expediency at the expense of justice.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:10
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blarzgh posted:I refuse to bow to the calls of expediency at the expense of justice. how well do those wars over $500 speeding tickets pay off?
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Jul 12, 2016 22:19
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Funny thing is, lots of my projects DO involve bridges. Makes me wonder if Ewok knows me. Can't imagine I'm that hard to find. Probably time to edit all my posts to "."
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Jul 13, 2016 00:55
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I knew you worked for the government, the bridge law was a joke since I think you mentioned it I don't know you. Yet
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EwokEntourage posted:I knew you worked for the government, the bridge law was a joke since I think you mentioned it Sounds like you have a fan, Hot Dog Day #91
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Jul 13, 2016 02:38
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Are you the all beef variety? Perhaps also kosher?
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Jul 13, 2016 03:42
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I wish I could remember my original username, but I think it's been 12 years.
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Jul 13, 2016 04:14
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I wish I could remember my original username, but I think it's been 12 years. So now you know what it's like to be one of those stolen generation kids in australia huh
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Jul 13, 2016 13:34
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Mr. Nice! posted:how well do those wars over $500 speeding tickets pay off? If by "wars" you mean "20 minute, patty-cake jury trials," then yes, the rate of return is sufficient, I would say.
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Jul 13, 2016 16:33
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blarzgh posted:If by "wars" you mean "20 minute, patty-cake jury trials," then yes, the rate of return is sufficient, I would say. The thought of a jury trial over a traffic ticket amuses me. Just seems like such a petty waste of time and the guy is almost always absolutely guilty and is just fighting it because he can. I'm glad you're able to do well off of it.
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Jul 13, 2016 17:33
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blarzgh posted:If by "wars" you mean "20 minute, patty-cake jury trials," then yes, the rate of return is sufficient, I would say. And I though Minnesota was wasteful by having actual lawyers prosecute traffic tickets. Jury trials? Lol.
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Jul 13, 2016 18:38
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Its a pretty rampant fallacy that police departments and municipal courts exist as some sort of revenue engine, whose sole purpose is to drain the noble poor of their last meager pennies. Enforcing the law is not a profitable endeavor. It doesn't matter if trial and prosecution cost more than the amount of the ticket. Even still, people are entitled to their trial by jury, and I'm there for my docket regardless, so it doesn't really cost anything more than an extra half hour of my time. The only alternative is to stop enforcing traffic laws, and thats not a reasonable alternative.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:04
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Mr. Nice! posted:a petty waste of time and the guy is almost always absolutely guilty and is just fighting it because he can. Agreed. 
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Mr. Nice! posted:The thought of a jury trial over a traffic ticket amuses me. Just seems like such a petty waste of time and the guy is almost always absolutely guilty and is just fighting it because he can. I'm glad you're able to do well off of it. But losing a trial over a ticket isn't really going to hurt you, right? What's the worst case scenario in most cases, being found guilty and having to pay the ticket? Seems like that whole system is far more evil in criminal cases. Go quietly for a few years because the prosecutor "knows" you're guilty, or try to make your case and risk basically losing your life.
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Jul 13, 2016 19:25
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I'm suggesting that a jury trial is excessive for a traffic violation.
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Should probably be a jurisdictional limit on jury trials for a class c. Can you get a jury trial in muni court?
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm suggesting that a jury trial is excessive for a traffic violation. You can't constitutionally deny that without just dropping the charge anyway, right? I guess you could get rid of them by treating speeding tickets like drug cases. Make the penalty for speeding $50,000, then let everyone who admits guilt get off with $100 or whatever. If they try to defend themselves, nail them to the wall for the full penalty.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm suggesting that a jury trial is excessive for a traffic violation. I disagree. Someone call the Admiral.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:You can't constitutionally deny that without just dropping the charge anyway, right? The supreme court has really narrowed what type of crime gets a jury trial. If it is a fine only, you generally are not entitled to one under federal law (there may be a dollar trigger but it is high).
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nm posted:The supreme court has really narrowed what type of crime gets a jury trial. If it is a fine only, you generally are not entitled to one under federal law (there may be a dollar trigger but it is high). The hell with the fine, you can get 6 months in jail without a jury trial I thought?
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spacetoaster posted:Agreed.
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Question: I bought a full cart of junk at wal-mart today and the beeper alarm went off at the door. The old lady yelled at me to stop and come back in, I did. She then proceeded to slowly paw through everything with my receipt (that was long as my arm). She did this for 9 minutes (I checked my phone). What could wal-mart do, legally, if I had just held up my middle finger and kept walking out to my car? I imagine they could ban me from ever coming back, but that would require them to know who I was, find me, and tell me I guess. I asked the lady if she thought I had stolen anything and she said no. She just kept blabbering about store policy.
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They "could" try to detain you with their "loss prevention" team, follow you to your car, get your license plate, and maybe block you in to keep you from driving away, and call the cops, but all the while they would walk the line between, "how sure are we this person stole from us" and "we don't want to get sued for false imprisonment."
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blarzgh posted:They "could" try to detain you with their "loss prevention" team, follow you to your car, get your license plate, and maybe block you in to keep you from driving away, and call the cops, but all the while they would walk the line between, "how sure are we this person stole from us" and "we don't want to get sued for false imprisonment." I wonder how many thefts that door buzzer actually catches? It's gone off several times with me and it's usually some game or dvd that didn't get passed over the rfid thing good enough. Found this interesting: http://www.crimedoctor.com/shoplifting3.htm quote:You must see the shoplifter approach the merchandise I'm not saying walmart follows those guidelines but if they have something similar then everyone could just ignore the dumb door buzzer. spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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How likely is it that California would extradite someone with a felony warrant out for his arrest, arrested in NV for disturbing the peace? I don't have any info about what the felony was, or what county it happened in. Anyone have an idea about how this works out? Grognan fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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lol, Chris McGooey, CPCPESSLM I wouldn't trust anything I read on that website. The complaints I see are usually just 1. Observed them take the merchandise 2. Observed them walk past all points of sale without paying for the merchandise. I don't know where he's getting this outside the store or continuous observation stuff.
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Grognan posted:How likely is it that California would extradite someone with a felony warrant out for his arrest, arrested in NV for disturbing the peace? Goddamn, how bad do you have to disturb the peace to have a felony warrant issued for your arrest? (lol, "Criminal Anarchy"! NRS 203.115 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-203.html)
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blarzgh posted:Goddamn, how bad do you have to disturb the peace to have a felony warrant issued for your arrest? He had a standing CA felony warrant and got arrested in NV for disturbing the peace. I'm just hoping he stays in CA's care for the forseeable future.
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Grognan posted:He had a standing CA warrant and got arrested in NV for disturbing the peace. I'm just hoping he stays in CA's care for the forseeable future. Ohhh, you're asking if NV is going to send him back to CA? Since disturbing the peace is a misdemeanor, they probably would only keep him overnight unless CA and NV are in cahoots in on the warrant system. Then they might ship him off to CA in the morning. Edit: Nevada would be the entity to extradite him to California, in that circumstance. Double Edit: Its probably not likely that NV would send him to CA. blarzgh fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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blarzgh posted:Ohhh, you're asking if NV is going to send him back to CA? I'm pressing charges so he's staying until his court date in august and then I hope they will be shipping him out. The brief amount of googling suggests that CA has to ask for him back though. Judge gave him 2,500 bail, no bonds so he is probably staying in jail until that court date. TLDR: violent manchild that yells at his gf and kid at three in the morning all the time loses his poo poo when she manages to get the car keys and flees. Regularly has the cops called on him but I guess he knew enough to hide/lie to police when they arrive. Trashes a 7-11 and breaks his furniture, screams death threats at me and I'm lucky enough to have witnesses around that take statements.
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spacetoaster posted:Question: I ignored the buzzer and security guy at Best Buy about 15 years ago. He followed me to the car, demanding I let him look in the bag. When I reached my car, I tossed the bag in the trunk and shut the trunk. He blocked me in for a while and a manager came out and demanded I open the trunk and show them what was in the bag. I refused. I told them to review their security camera recordings, but it had already become a contest of wills. They threatened to call the cops. I said OK. Then we all just stood there for a while, each waiting out the other. Finally, they told me to leave and never ever return. I think they are in their rights to refuse to let me into Best Buy. I have gone back, but it was years later.
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blarzgh posted:lol, Chris McGooey, CPCPESSLM When I got loss prevention training in retail management, they talked about this. The whole lost sight so don't stop only applied to Real small items you could pocket, and letting someone shop lift something small was easier/cheaper than a confrontation gone wrong. Whether it had an effect on the legitimacy of stopping a shop lifter didn't really matter The stopping outside thing is bs. It just that repeated line not actual shoplifting until they've actually left the store. Most shoplifters Werner going to get prosecuted anyways, so it didn't matter whether they committed the actual crime or not. And plus I guess attempted theft doesn't exist to some people.
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Grognan posted:I'm pressing charges so he's staying until his court date in august and then I hope they will be shipping him out. The brief amount of googling suggests that CA has to ask for him back though. Ok, if he's being held on charges in Nevada right now, and you're asking whether California will ask for him back before he can go to trial in Nevada, the answer is almost certainly, "No, California will not ask for him back."
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blarzgh posted:Ok, if he's being held on charges in Nevada right now, and you're asking whether California will ask for him back before he can go to trial in Nevada, the answer is almost certainly, "No, California will not ask for him back." No, I just want to know if CA will take him at all. I really don't want to be neighbors with this guy.
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The answer is still, "probably not." Edit: I guess you could call the jurisdiction in California that issued the warrant, and tell them that you got their boy down here in Nevada and see what they say. blarzgh fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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