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yea tracer still dies to a direct from pharah with the 30% buff; she does something like 156 damage while boosted mccree can oneshot a pharah to the head with the 50% tho (70+35=105, or 210 with a headshot), and fth does 405 damage; pharah's got nothing on damage boosted mccree. tho going back to instadead tracer, firestrike would do 150 damage while boosted so lol tracer. thankfully they're not keeping the 50% damage boost because that'd be crazy
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Bolow posted:The British are a blight on this world loving Tea-aboos
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I don't play tracer but I want to say if you manage to get hit by a direct rocket as tracer it's probably your fault
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tracer's accent isn't even english it's just that weird voice americans make when they try to do impressions of us
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SqueePower posted:loving What is wrong with us English people,. Tally ho and what what! We just got an idiot as Foreign Secretary so we can't all be bad
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TheresaJayne posted:What is wrong with us English people,. Tally ho and what what! Nice alt account, Theresa "Jayne" May
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Nice alt account, Theresa "Jayne" May Why am i not surprised at that comment. #Pressthebigredbuttonnow
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vulturesrow posted:Someone kind of alluded to this already but for those of us playing in scrub tier hell will suffer from the Hanzo fix in that two people will inevitably slam pick him regardless and now they will be even more of a liability. That said, I think it was the right thing to do.
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cosmicjim posted:The key to lucio potgs is booping people on koth maps. Almost all of my lucio potgs have been from using my ult to shield allies from an enemy ult. Using it when an enemy zarya has people trapped in her black hole thing gets it pretty often.
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After playing some PTR I can see that Ana is really great in the right hands. She's just not for me. Zen, on the other hand, is superfun to play once again and I think I'll probably play him a lot more once the patch hits, instead of mostly playing Mercy in comp.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I'm still wondering why everyone is so pissed at hanzo when tracer exists in this game. It's hard to ever be mad about about a character who will run into my bear trap and let me blow them up over and over and over
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Xaris posted:fyi it's not just targetted towards hanzo, all projectile hitboxes are mostly normalized now (mei2, zen, shurikans, etc) aren't as large. They're now like hitscan hitboxes. And that's a good thing except when you remember that this is a huge nerf to all projectile weapons when they don't really need that. all hitscan weapons should be nerfed damage-wise along with this change. or all projectile weapons should be buffed. what's the point of picking someone like pharah, mei or hanzo when heroes like mccree, soldier and widowmaker deal way more damage way more accurately? one of the things valve figured out with tf2 was that hitscan weapons weren't fun to play against. most of the hitscan weapons in TF2 were shotguns and secondary weapons, with the sniper's rifle as the only real exception. it's only in overwatch that you can get killed in 1 second because a mccree managed to headshot you and then bodyshot you at 30m, which isn't really all that difficult Ddraig posted:Can we make this the new thread title because lmao are telling me you have an easier time getting direct hits with pharah than bodyshots with mccree? what the heck Minorkos fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea tracer still dies to a direct from pharah with the 30% buff; she does something like 156 damage while boosted I'm kinda on the fence about this, as 50% hits break points on virtually every character, but in comparison 30% limits the usefulness to a handful, such as Pharah and Junkrat. McCree is a good example, at 30% his damage is 91which is just under a 200 damage headshot, so for 30% he still needs the same number of shots while not boosted. 50% mean he needs one shot less no matter the scenario. Rienhardt still needs to hit Reaper three times @ 30%, only twice if 50% (tanks move from 5-6 to 4-5, etc). It does mean though there are times when it's legitimately better to pull out the pistol then boost @ 30%, such as above mentioned cases.
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I'm just now catching up, but can we revisit the mccree fth suggestion that he instead shoots his gun rapidly at their feet forcing them to dance.
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What if they gave hanzo a proximity bomb at the end of his arrows that used the old hitboxes
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Hanzo needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. When Hanzo isn't selected on the character screen, all of your teammates should be asking "Where's Hanzo?"
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The hitbox salt is for real. Listen nerds, it never felt good watching an arrow fly a foot to the right of your head only for the server to claim its a headshot .2 seconds later. I have a super magical way of fixing projectile issues now that they have been nerfed: increase projectile speed. Now I know it's hard to grasp this seemingly simple concept, but increasing a projectile's travel velocity is way more effective than wonky invisible hitboxes. I could only imagine if Tribes went with retarded hitboxes instead of modifying projectile speeds.
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Thor-Stryker posted:The hitbox salt is for real. Listen nerds, it never felt good watching an arrow fly a foot to the right of your head only for the server to claim its a headshot .2 seconds later. Increasing speed so that they might as well be hitscan weapons?
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Papercut posted:Increasing speed so that they might as well be hitscan weapons? Why do people think a fast projectile is anywhere near hitscan? Even a mere 30m has super obvious differences. Ana's projectiles are in a good place, what would be wrong with Hanzo's arrows having similar velocity? Add in penetration so the arrow can hit multiple targets in its trajectory and Hanzo fulfills an interesting niche role.
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Papercut posted:Increasing speed so that they might as well be hitscan weapons? What are your thoughts on dva's pistol
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i can't believe they nerfed lucio's dps output
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I like the idea of cutting Sonic Arrow's cooldown. I think Scatter Arrow can be reworked to be a lot easier to land by pubbie Hanzos. Maybe make it biased towards an enemy you revealed with Sonic Arrow?
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I'm glad they're making comp 1 of each hero but it sucks because it basically means whoever loads in first gets the character they want and people with slower rigs get hosed.
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urea posted:Now that they've made projectile hitboxes hitscan-sized, they need to finish the job and change all hitscan attacks to projectiles. It's only fair (and way more fun). picture pharah stomping on the face of every map forever
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Verranicus posted:I'm glad they're making comp 1 of each hero but it sucks because it basically means whoever loads in first gets the character they want and people with slower rigs get hosed. Yeah, but this doesn't really change anything, Right now you've got two people picking Hanzo and one of them screaming he picked it first and both refusing to change.
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Dias posted:i can't believe they nerfed lucio's dps output They did? Can't see anything about it in the patch notes.
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so the strategy will be hold hanzo until the game begins, then choose the character you're actually going to play
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If I get a loot box in the PTR does it count or vanish into the ether when I go back to the real game?
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, but this doesn't really change anything, Right now you've got two people picking Hanzo and one of them screaming he picked it first and both refusing to change. I guess I'm just salty that I really like Ana and I know I won't be able to play her for like 3 weeks after release until the new character smell goes away. =/
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, but this doesn't really change anything, Right now you've got two people picking Hanzo and one of them screaming he picked it first and both refusing to change. nickhimself posted:so the strategy will be hold hanzo until the game begins, then choose the character you're actually going to play
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I can't take credit for the idea, but it is a good one
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ManSedan posted:If I get a loot box in the PTR does it count or vanish into the ether when I go back to the real game? Vanishes, PTR is only a test realm, everything is wiped when they are finished with it.
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Verranicus posted:I guess I'm just salty that I really like Ana and I know I won't be able to play her for like 3 weeks after release until the new character smell goes away. =/ same but for the game in general new hero syndrome is the worst
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Ravenfood posted:In qp, my general solution to a slapfight like this is to switch to Hanzo too. Usually at least one other person joins me after that, sometimes everyone else. If we can't have a decent winning round, at least I''ll have a fun gimmick round. No idea what I'd do in comp, but even then I think I'd rather just tank my rating than try to deal with a team that's fighting over Hanzos. The 1-character change is only for Comp AFAIK at least. Verranicus posted:I guess I'm just salty that I really like Ana and I know I won't be able to play her for like 3 weeks after release until the new character smell goes away. =/ Yeah, I know that feeling. I main support and good luck with that for the next month.
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Papercut posted:Increasing speed so that they might as well be hitscan weapons? There's a huge gap between Hanzo's current projectile speed and hitscan. If players are missing too many shots because it's hard to effectively lead targets, then slightly increasing projectile speed will make it easier because players won't have to account for as much player movement unlike now. I mean Blizzard could make Hanzo hitscan and adjust all his values to match, or they could just up the velocity until they reach the % hit/miss ratio they want.
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If you need to buff Hanzo to change for the hitbox changes, maybe up his movement speed while charging so he can be closer to the action more safely? Give him a movement buff after a kill? Though really, I don't see what his role is supposed to be: Widow has long-range sniper down and McCree has the short-range headshot thing. Change scatter so it can't be used to insta-gib people but tracks really well around corners? Give him a wall-piercing arrow ability instead of scatter?
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Can you be reported for being bad in comp? Legit curious.Zoness posted:same but for the game in general I really feel like they should have released at -least- 2 new heroes at the same time to get around that.
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Lovechop posted:tracer's accent isn't even english it's just that weird voice americans make when they try to do impressions of us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IArbWR6XSs
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To be honest, I tried Mei on the PTR for like an hour last night and didn't notice a difference in her M2.
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