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El Grillo posted:^^they're pretty poo poo reviewers sometimes. They have an absolute aversion to knowing anything about the games they're reviewing, it seems. Kind of irritating. The only reviews they have are written. The rest of their video content is not review based. They are just trying stuff out like everyone else. Usually it's their first or second time touching the game, especially with VR.
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AndrewP posted:I've definitely noticed some slowdown in terms of actual game framerate with my 1070 but the "look" framerate has been silky smooth, which I guess is what keeps me from feeling nauseated. ATW is cool. I wish American Truck Sim ran better - unstable framerate on High but the resolution general crispness looks too bad with anything lower. Since a 1070 is ~= to a 980Ti currently (until the VR specific special abilities get implemented in VR games) that means your about the same as me and Euro/American Truck Sim has an issue they have still yet to fix in their engine. You sit in a town, and the framerate/cpu/gpu usage goes to crap (FPS drops, CPU and GPU usage are nowwhere near max) but the minute you drive outside of town, usage climbs as does FPS and whatnot. No idea what it is and have yet to see anything from the devs about it being looked into/fixed and its annoying because some bottleneck is leaving performance on the table as it holds up everything else in the process line in town, which isn't really that big of a town in the first place. Similar bottleneck feel as running the Rift through SteamVR for games like Elite and such too.
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Jul 11, 2016 21:40
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Cojawfee posted:Some of the "SUPER CRAZY VR PERFORMANCE GAINS" features haven't been implemented in most things. I think Unreal and/or Unity have them. Any game made on a custom engine like most simulators will need to implement it themselves. Couldn't most VR improvements come from using Valve's scaling rendering engine in Unity? Is this something that would be hard to implement for games have already been released?
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How is Dirt Rally, anyone given it a shot? It looks good but the price is relatively high.
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Dirt Rally is super great if you're into racing games. If you think you'd like to play a rally game, pick it up. It's the only modern VR rally game at the moment and it's super good. If you end up not liking it, steam has refunds. Edit: If you play dirt rally in VR and don't like the lock to horizon, go to Documents/My Games/Dirt Rally/hardwaresettings and open the config xml in notepad, find "orientationlock" and set that to true. False locks to horizon, true locks to car. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Thanks! Maybe I'll check it out. Rally racing sounds fun to me since I get bored of most normal racing games pretty quickly.
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EdEddnEddy posted:Since a 1070 is ~= to a 980Ti currently (until the VR specific special abilities get implemented in VR games) that means your about the same as me and Euro/American Truck Sim has an issue they have still yet to fix in their engine. You sit in a town, and the framerate/cpu/gpu usage goes to crap (FPS drops, CPU and GPU usage are nowwhere near max) but the minute you drive outside of town, usage climbs as does FPS and whatnot. Yeah that sounds about right. Hope they optimize it eventually, I just wanna drive my big truck the speed limit down the desert highway  I tried the Vector game, pretty cool but also have framerate issues. I know it's Early Access but obviously for VR that's a tough obstacle. I was wondering if that was more my CPU though since it's so physics based - I have an i7 3770 3.4 GHz. Also, Oculus is kidding themselves if they think I'm going to buy an early VR game on Home instead of the place I can get a refund.
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Dirt Rally is awesome in VR. As soon as I move into the new house I'm working on my simulator station.
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Racing games make me want to get a wheel and pedals
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SlayVus posted:Couldn't most VR improvements come from using Valve's scaling rendering engine in Unity? Is this something that would be hard to implement for games have already been released? If a game uses Unity's built in renderer it would be a moderate amount of work. If it uses a custom renderer it would be a large amount of work. Note that Valve's dynamic scaling technique, while effective, can significantly reduce picture quality. Instanced stereo and fixed foveated rendering are mostly lossless, and they're the things people usually talk about as the new Nvidia tech (even though you can do them almost as well on other hardware). There are no current Unity or Unreal renderers that do these, so it would be a large amount of work for any game. The ideal would be for games to use all three techniques, since they're all compatible with each other and they're all possible on any hardware.
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My coworker is letting me borrow his DK2, so last night I tried out a Dirt Rally, iRacing, Assetto Corsa, Elite: Dangerous, and House of the Dying Sun. Are there any demos that are interesting? Since I don't own the rift I don't really want to buy a bunch of VR games. So far I am pretty imrpessed with the rift. I didn't realize how well it worked and it does really confuse your brain. I get a little motion sickness, not stomach churning but just feeling hot. Taking jumps or having the car go backwards in Dirt Rally really tricks my brain. Out of the racing sims I own, I think iRacing looks the clearest without having to mess with pixel density. Assetto Corsa does a great job of car interiors but things don't look as defined in the distance. I tired raising it to 1.5 density which is fine for hotlapping but as soon as other cars are loaded it drops to 60 fps. I know ACs rift support is experimental, so I hope they make some improvements. Without the post processing all the colors look blown out - but with it on its blurrier than normal. E:D has a cool cockpit that you want to look at, but I get bored of being a space trucker real fast. House of the Dying Sun throws you right into the action so I enjoyed it in VR a lot. While its vehicles are not as detailed as E:D, once you stop looking for flaws and play its pretty cool. My biggest complaint is not a flaw of the rift, but I have to wear my glasses and the rift feels like its going to mess up my frames which are not huge or wide. Every time I pull off the rift it pulls off my glasses. I adjusted the straps as they recommended on Ocullus' FAQ. I am nearsighted so I thought I would be fine without them but Its just out of focus without glasses.
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The rift focuses to infinity so the screen looks like it is far away. It shouldn't scratch your glasses or anything like that but your glasses might scratch the dk2. The lenses are made of plastic. Oculus is saying Rifts are shipping in 2-4 business days. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 12, 2016 |
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They also said they'd have "a lot more info about touch" at the upcoming developer conference...in October.  Full text: quote:
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FormatAmerica posted:They also said they'd have "a lot more info about touch" at the upcoming developer conference...in October. Glad I got my $20 LeapMotion so I can scratch the itch a bit. They sure are taking their time...
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https://twitter.com/brendaniribe/status/752879386878218240 Touch in Q4. Sometime in October, November, or (hopefully not) December. The fact that they don't say anything specific makes me worry that they are going to try to do a holiday release.
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Fiscal Q4 means early 2017.
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Mordaedil posted:Fiscal Q4 means early 2017. They explicitly say "We’re on track to launch Touch and introduce true hand presence along with an amazing lineup of games and experiences later this year. We’ll have lots more to share about Touch and the 30+ launch titles at OC3." though
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Facebook's fiscal year end is Dec 31. Also they are planning on sending out ~5000 Touch units to developers before consumer release.
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Mordaedil posted:Fiscal Q4 means early 2017. I haven't seen it mean that in quite some time.
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Also Jason Rubin reiterated it's this half of the year https://twitter.com/Jason_Rubin/status/752904837029728257 posted:Shipping in short order, a store full of compelling content, and Touch this half. #FullyOperational
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Poetic Justice posted:Also Jason Rubin reiterated it's this half of the year I'm not touching that half, you naughty dog.
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Zero VGS posted:I'm not touching that half, you naughty dog. Holy poo poo. 
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Ciaphas posted:Racing games make me want to get a wheel and pedals same
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Played quake vr and loved it. Really love the idea of thief vr, hope someone adapts it soon.
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Lemming posted:They explicitly say "We’re on track to launch Touch and introduce true hand presence along with an amazing lineup of games and experiences later this year. We’ll have lots more to share about Touch and the 30+ launch titles at OC3." though
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I have not been following very actively but have there been any announcements of when they will start shipping to the rest of the world beyond the initial release countries?
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Cojawfee posted:https://twitter.com/brendaniribe/status/752879386878218240 And the Rift shipped in Q1. To one person in Alaska.
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Hey, I got mine on March 31st. Never mind that I was one of like 3 people who got an order in the first minute before the servers caught fire.
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Cojawfee posted:I haven't seen it mean that in quite some time. It's entirely industry/company specific. Source: I deal with companies with varying fiscal year ends. I definitely agree that they mean Q4 2017, though.
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Ciaphas posted:Racing games make me want to get a wheel and pedals Find a used G25/27 that fully works and go nuts. The G29/920 have the stupid shifter bought separate and are still essentially identical to the G27 outside of console specific buttons and its stupid.  Also If you don't have a way to mount the wheel nicely to your desk (or just don't want to mess with mounting/unmounting it each time you want to race, I can recommend this neat deal. It is simple but works well once you get the cables all organized well. Makes it easy to move around as a set and you can lower it down to store if need be.
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As far as I'm aware, the 5000 developer touch units are probably already out and being shipped en masse. One of the indie game developers I follow (Glass Bottom Games - Hot Tin Roof people) got 3! boxes of Touch controllers before their HMDs shipped. Also all of the people who are already doing experiments and filming youtube videos using the touch controllers. Don't we even have a goon or two in this thread that also have the touch controller dev kits? One can extrapolate that the production timeline is basically ironed out and that they can move these more quickly than they could HMDs as they aren't dependent on any fancy manufacturing processes or external providers like screens/lenses/sound drivers I suspect the vaugeness on the launch window is more to give their contracted developers more time to finalize their games and build up stock rather than some unexpected delay. We all know how things went when they did a soft launch of the Rift (announce, take preorders, set a date) and then miss that date. A hard launch where they announce and start shipping same day would be crazy... but it depends on whether or not they'd have enough stock on hand to actually do a hard launch.
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Looks like Out of Ammo are botching their release cycle. They pushed multiplayer without fixing bugs, and introduced more bugs in the process. When they were working on the MP update, they claimed they couldn't fix bugs at the same time, like they aren't branching at all. They put out 2 new feature releases without addressing some pretty annoying bugs with the core gameplay. They added a survival mission, and it's awful. You're supposed to survive in a valley amidst wreckage, but it's a mess. You can't carry any magazines around, so you have to move over to a full one (scattered around) to pick it up when you need to reload. Also they implemented teleporting but really didn't think it through. There's no parabolic targeting, and it doesn't really work well with the rest of the game. It's out of place. Incredibly, they failed to add a game menu to the new modes (including overwatch) so all you can do is finish or quit the game. How did that pass testing? They're being pretty slapdash with the release process so I'm going to change my opinion of Out of Ammo from buy to wait.
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Turns out VR cover are going to make a thinner facplate/padding for the oculus which should reduce the godray issue and increase the fov, similar to how it reduces blur on the vive. Also there'll be one to make glasses easier to wear with the headset. It's insane that nobody thought to include different faceplates and padding with the headsets in the first place though.
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E: I'm bad at jokes
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The Unholy Ghost posted:I'm new here, what's the porn options so far? Virtual Desktop or Whirligig seem to be your best options for playing, ahem, 3D videos with head tracking.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:E: I'm bad at jokes If you thought even for a moment that porn wasn't legit 90% of the use of this cutting edge technology then you're as naive as the CEO of Oculus.
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I feel ridiculous for having to ask this, but will NVidia VR Funhouse run on an AMD card? Will it even "run" in an intentionally gimped fashion?
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Zero VGS posted:I feel ridiculous for having to ask this, but will NVidia VR Funhouse run on an AMD card? Will it even "run" in an intentionally gimped fashion? I would assume not; it sounds like even the lowest settings are set up to use Nvidia's proprietary features.
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Cojawfee posted:It also only works with the vive. Nvidia is fracturing they community. Does it actually somehow only work with the Vive, or have they just not put the Rift logo on the page because Touch isn't out yet?
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