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Incoherence posted:Trap/mine combos mean that you don't have the mine available to airburst in people's faces, which I do constantly, or to blow Reinhardt away from his team. The trap alone is enough to set up a couple left-click hits. It's possible to do two things!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtMcbNs_rxs
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Incoherence posted:Trap/mine combos mean that you don't have the mine available to airburst in people's faces, which I do constantly, or to blow Reinhardt away from his team. The trap alone is enough to set up a couple left-click hits. I mean if you get a better opportunity after setting up the combo, you can still use your conc mine anyway. It doesn't take that option away from you. I find half the time I set up the trap combo I have to use the mine before I get to use the combo and that's okay - its completely worth setting up anyway for the time you catch that Tracer or whoever flanking on the side before anyone comes in the front gates.
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Macaluso posted:As a PC player Tracer is one of the easiest characters to kill as Junkrat cause that dumb idiot will run into my trap + mine combo every. single. time. Yeah the trap is a real headache for tracer and lots of other heroes. Junkrat shouldn't be killing tracer too much though. She has the ability to pick her fights and shouldn't be taking fights with him in hallways where he has an advantage or getting too close to him unless he's low or she has the drop on him.
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Sp1r0_Agn3W posted:if theyd make a mode that banned gengi and hanzo, this game might be ok NO SHIMADAS ALLOWED
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you get either brother Genji or brother Hanzo. that's it.
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Hanzos vs Genjis is actually a good Brawl idea.
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Philip Rivers posted:Hanzos vs Genjis is actually a good Brawl idea. Didn't we have this..?
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Verranicus posted:Didn't we have this..? Yes, it was loving awful, like 100% of brawls that aren't Mystery Heroes
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I'm pretty sure they already had Shimada Bowl, and it was terrible
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Ddraig posted:Yes, it was loving awful, like 100% of brawls that aren't Mystery Heroes We're All Soldiers Now was actually Fun And Good.
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It was terrible partially because they reduced cooldowns by like 75% for some reason
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the Pharah brawl might've been okay if they didn't make the jump jets cool down in 1 second. Kinda fucks up the whole rhythm of a Pharah mirror duel.
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Is Masteroverwatch hosed on how it's getting some of its data? Like it thinks I'm in the top 19% of Pharahs for elims per minute but bottom 28% for damage per minute and I don't imagine those coexisting. I'm not flying around looking for people with 3 HP and finding them at some insane rate.
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Jul 16, 2016 04:43
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You get an elimination for doing 1 damage
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strong bird posted:You get an elimination for doing 1 damage Yes but unless I'm finding tons of half-dead targets, high elims and low damage aren't going to be that far apart. It's a trend that carries through on all my dudes. Like it thinks I'm top 10% Tracer for elims per minute and bottom 27% on damage.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Yes but unless I'm finding tons of half-dead targets, high elims and low damage aren't going to be that far apart. It's a trend that carries through on all my dudes. Like it thinks I'm top 10% Tracer for elims per minute and bottom 27% on damage. You'd be surprised
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I'm fairly confident that I'm not in the top 5% of Hanzos for elims per minute.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I'm fairly confident that I'm not in the top 5% of Hanzos for elims per minute. You'd be surprised
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verbal enema posted:You'd be surprised I'm in the top 4% for accuracy for Pharah and way below 50% for eliminations http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/NAMEREDACTED-1183
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my account is a pretty good look at "wow, you're pretty good, but you can't seal the deal" 
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triple post but this website is garbage that's all edit: 
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Soothing Vapors posted:I'm pretty sure they already had Shimada Bowl, and it was terrible they did and it was bad. hanzo vs genji is a really bad match up also it was limited to the worst map in the game, hanamura
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Your account does the same thing. Literally every account I'm looking at, people's elims per minute percentile is way higher than their damage per minute percentile. Is there anyone out there that shows an exception Like I'm sure people want to believe the flattering stats about their elims per minute and not the horrifying ones about their damage but it's probably just as likely that neither are correct Nehru the Damaja fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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that's because you can get an elimination for 1 damage but people you shoot at don't necessarily die every time it's not some big mystery
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It's percentile ranks. We can't have an entire player base in the bottom quartile for damage. And the more those bottom quartile ranks for damage coincide with top ranks for elims, the more improbable it gets.
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they aren't. I'm in the top 19% for damage done and you can check the leaderboards for people in the top 10 it might even do the top percentages across all platforms, or be pulling the top percentage from blizzard's servers rather than just pooling the people that have actually been checked on master overwatch itself
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Manatee Cannon posted:they aren't. I'm in the top 19% for damage done and you can check the leaderboards for people in the top 10 do you have belief in the website or not
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I see no reason to believe master overwatch is wrong
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Your account does the same thing. Literally every account I'm looking at, people's elims per minute percentile is way higher than their damage per minute percentile. Is there anyone out there that shows an exception  it's not me but it's the insanity that my accuracy is this dang good and i'm still this dang bad!!!!!!!
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Manatee Cannon posted:I see no reason to believe master overwatch is wrong Unless they've changed the way the system works, Master Overwatch only looks at and updates the people that have been searched for. And unlike something like HotsLogs for HotS, it only works for one player rather than 10. There's millions of people that have played this game. I'd be surprised if even a quarter of them are on the site, and if half of those are up to date.
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Manatee Cannon posted:they aren't. I'm in the top 19% for damage done and you can check the leaderboards for people in the top 10 Okay but actually look at those leaderboards. The quickplay damage percentiles are still dragging insanely far behind their elim per minute percentiles on everyone, even if the actual number is higher. (This doesn't seem to be as pronounced if you look at the same players' competitive records) Like yes we can make up explanations like they're actually securing kills so they're not doing as much empty damage, but that still doesn't explain why everyone I look at in quickplay lags on damage percentile. If we see this again and again and again, there has to be some population out there with oversized damage percentile and lower and lower kill rates. Nehru the Damaja fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jul 16, 2016 |
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Your account does the same thing. Literally every account I'm looking at, people's elims per minute percentile is way higher than their damage per minute percentile. Is there anyone out there that shows an exception Mine are pretty close to each other. 45th/39th with Zarya, 98th/84th with Symmetra (no wonder I have a 70% win rate with her), 81st/78th with S76, 70th/64th with Rein, etc. Nothing jumps out as insane.
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why wouldn't that be the case? please keep in mind that shooting barriers also counts towards poo poo like accuracy and damage so you can do a shitload of damage without ever even touching another player
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i just can't be put at ease with a website telling me i'm good when i'm not game-winning is the good metric and there's not of that happening forever
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I feel confident not trusting a site that says I'm putting up Seagull numbers on Hanzo.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I feel confident not trusting a site that says I'm putting up Seagull numbers on Hanzo. does your accuracy look like mine
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I love that every time a stat tracking website gets involved in a game discussion dozens of goons come out and demonstrate a shockingly weak comprehension of how statistics and numbers work
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Brannock posted:I love that every time a stat tracking website gets involved in a game discussion dozens of goons come out and demonstrate a shocking low level of comprehension of how statistics and numbers work save us from ourselves already we're typing out for help for god's sake
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Lovely Senorita posted:does your accuracy look like mine No it's Hanzo. Even Seagull's accuracy rating which is a super high percentile on Hanzo only amounts to about a third of his shots. But we have the same elim per minute percentile and drat close on damage.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:No it's Hanzo. Even Seagull's accuracy rating which is a super high percentile on Hanzo only amounts to about a third of his shots. But we have the same elim per minute percentile and drat close on damage. this is what I don't get and I want Brannock to point out because this makes no sense to me
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