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Waffleman_ posted:The Vita version also displays in HD while the 3DS version has pretty okay 3D. 544p is not HD
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It's certainly better than 400x240, and it can drive beefier 3d models E; side note to those that want to play but don't have any hardware, the game runs perfectly well on the vitatv, and you can pick one up for next to nothing Sentient Data fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Sentient Data posted:E; side note to those that want to play but don't have any hardware, the game runs perfectly well on the vitatv, and you can pick one up for next to nothing Considering how much Sony is actively IGNORING the Vita, that's not a surprising thing. I love my little sleek, black handheld. Now if they could have ignored adding REAR TOUCH PADS and maybe some embedded L2/R2 buttons instead, it might have been a better handheld all together. The fact they did next to no advertising for it AND the proprietary memory cards are overpriced to hell and back (Seriously, I had to pay about 50-60 for my 32 gig that's sat in my PSVita the day I got the drat thing in the mail from eBay, where the PSP only used micro SD cards which were cheap as gently caress AND easy to find) only further drove the nail into the coffin. Kemix fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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The PSP used Memory Stick Duo, actually. The biggest difference is that Sony allowed other manufacturers like SanDisk to make Memory Sticks, while they keep a lockdown on the Vita's card format.
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Spent like three full days binging this whole thread, and as soon as we get to what seems to be K's route, I'm caught up. Frick. Predictions for upcoming events: 1. We're probably approaching a plot lock in what is probably K's route but this isn't a problem, as the solution is almost definitely knowing about the key in the GAULEM facility, which we did first thing in Luna's route  2. Tenmyouji is like definitely Junpei, it's basically not a question any more 3. I'm not sure if people are still talking about being on the moon or Mars or whatever, but that idea is p. dumb following Dio's ending where we saw the actual moon just like chilling up in the sky so we can probably drop it 4. We *still* don't know what's up with the lions eating suns, and by last count there were only six, so we'll have to see 3 more at some point??? 5. I'd be willing to bet cash money the password in Luna's route is found at the end of K's route, and behind it is the last bomb password in Phi's route, thereby lining everything up for Quark's and Sigma's routes 5b. Alternately K's route tells us how to spend our five minutes in Quark's route, and then there we find the password for Luna's route, etc. 6. K is a big metallic teddy bear and is fantastic That's really all I've got to say on the matter  
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Wanting to chime in that I appreciate the effort that has gone in to this LP. I started reading it right when it stated, realized I was in over my head, read 999 and then forgot about this. A few weeks ago I bought the game on a whim because it was on sale and proceeded to plug 27 hours in to it over the course of a week and 100% cleared it. The amount of text and effort it takes to transcribe/screen shot everything must be immense. Awesome job keeping with it, even if I was a little surprised to see the thread still running. Otherwise just want to say this game is amazing and a total mind gently caress from beginning to end. Don't know if it has come up in the hundreds of pages but everyone reading should look up Chekhov's Gun at some point. It won't spoil anything, just make you appreciate the game and the effort that went in to making it. Otherwise, hello what I can only assume will be a dead thread for however long everyone takes to get Zero Time Dilemma out of the way. I know I was immediately turned in to a Zero Escape superfan after VLR. Got the 3DS version launch day and while I haven't had much time to play I've been loving the hell out of it so far. While the graphics and resolution aren't up to the Vita level it still delivers and looks fine in motion. My only complaint is that you can't look at archives and make notes at the same time anymore. I'm not sure my memory is good enough to make it the two screens back EDIT: Just read back a few pages. Next update, if/when it comes out, will in fact be the best update. And sorry about the ZTD rule. Didn't see it at first. 
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ManicVolcanic posted:Spent like three full days binging this whole thread, and as soon as we get to what seems to be K's route, I'm caught up. Congrats on catching up, now you can join us in our misery as the thread NEVER updates again 
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I just discovered this thread having picked up VLR back during the Nintendo E3 sale and playing through it. Thought I'd chime in and mention what a drat good game it is. Also, for those concerned about the 3DS version, I didn't experience any of the crashing mentioned earlier, though I noticed that I couldn't save at all in the PEC (one of the rooms noted to be vulnerable to crashing), so that may have been to prevent save corruption (or it could have been some other thing I didn't notice at the time). I liked the 3D effect, and the dual screens were incredibly useful, so I'd recommend that version, despite the supposed bugs. Also, for the thing with Phi that confused everyone earlier, one theory (that in no way uses spoilers, I checked like five times to make sure) could be that Phi and Sigma aren't necessarily jumping around the flowchart simultaneously, or in the same order. That is, Sigma could be traversing story branches in a different order than Phi (this is all but confirmed in Dio's ending). That is, she chose betray to get even with Sigma because she traversed the Bad End first, then came back and chose Betray. From Phi's perspective, this would be a wholly linear sequence of events, while for Sigma, depending on whether he chose Betray or Ally first from his own perspective, either sees it as similarly linear, or as a lateral time loop he has to fulfill. Because Phi, as she explains in the Archives, experiences the same time jumps Sigma does (though she has a harder time remembering things between jumps), she's the one person whose inconsistent-between-timelines voting can be explained without quantum physics. It's also possible that Phi isn't even experiencing all the same branches Sigma is. For example, Phi might have been at the same "step" of her jumps in both the Dio Bad End and Dio End, with only Sigma experiencing the branching between the two. This then implies that there are/were branches that only Phi experienced. It's possible that the flowchart isn't really showing every possibility, but is only showing the possibilities that Sigma can retain knowledge from (even in Bad Ends where you learn nothing important, you can at least take notes in your Brain Memory, it may be that in all the many-worlds timelines you don't see, Sigma can't even carry that small amount of information over). One can actually infer a likely path for Phi's jumps relative to Sigma's, based on how much she seems to know about what's going on (based on how much more reliable Sigma's cross-timeline memory gets the more paths you traverse, you can assume that more knowledgeable Phi is also further along Phi). Due to the risk of spoilers inherent in any attempt to trace her path through the story, I'll leave the inference itself as an exercise for the reader. Maybe it's because I've played/read/watched a lot of stories that heavily use goofy pseudoscience and/or weird time poo poo, I find I don't have quite as difficult a time wrapping my head around stuff like what's presented in VLR, though this was definitely the hardest I've had to work in quite some time to understand everything. Good luck transcribing the remainder, Fedule, this is a pretty monumental effort, given how wordy the game is.
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999 remake was just announced. Polsy link to avoid any ZTD spoilery thumbnails/comments
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EclecticTastes posted:I noticed that I couldn't save at all in the PEC (one of the rooms noted to be vulnerable to crashing), so that may have been to prevent save corruption (or it could have been some other thing I didn't notice at the time). There's a patch that disables saving in the PEC as a cheap kludge against the save corruption glitch, yes. ... Yeesh, I'd forgotten that the patch only existed in the eShop version. Nice job, whoever was responsible for that decision.
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I have a physical copy (got it Saturday, finally, been playing all weekend, currently in the Director's Room), and I couldn't save in the PEC either, so it's not just the eShop version. gently caress the parallelogram.
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Am I wrong in saying this is the first time we've gone through any doors with K? I can't recall any moments of him giving us polite and logical puzzle hints so it's probably true. This LP has definitely made me want to pick up a copy of VLR, even if it would mean going through everything all over again that I've seen in the LP. Also, Quark's letter has definitely confirmed for me that we are like, sixty years in the future or something. So far into the future that it's a different lunar eclipse from the 2028 one. Apparently the Sarsaparilla tree has gone extinct? So they can't make any more root beer? The question though is who is from the past and who is from the future, and why nobody else has revealed this setting. Had Quark and Tenmyouji really just never been in the room while everyone discussed how confused they were about the Lunar Eclipse magazine? Quark never thought "gee these people sure all have strange ideas of the world." The thing is, there was only 3 cold sleep pods, so only three people can be from the past, right? Dio seemed to have just played along with the others, acting like it's totally 2028. K of course has no idea what year it is. It would make sense if Alice, Clover, and Sigma had been in the cold sleep pods, but then why haven't Luna or Phi noted the year disparity? Why do they think it's 2028 too?
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Apparently a VLR remake was confirmed too somewhere, by the way.
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You know, come to think of it, I'm still curious about what kind of doctor Luna is. Her being vague about it is just suspicious enough to pique my interest, while being unsuspicious enough to make me think that they were trying to draw attention away from it. Weird. QueerPope posted:Am I wrong in saying this is the first time we've gone through any doors with K? Looking at the maps, you would be correct. QueerPope posted:The thing is, there was only 3 cold sleep pods, so only three people can be from the past, right? Assuming this is correct and we're pretty far in the future: of the nine players, three (Quark, Tenmyouji, Dio) know what year it is outside. Quark and Tenmyouji were never in the Lounge to hear the discussion regarding the astronomy magazine; they were always in the Infirmary. Dio appears to have been just playing along, seeing as he made up the whole story about being a circus ringmaster. K would have no idea due to amnesia. 3 players are from the past and would therefore think it's 2028. Two of those players are Clover and Alice, seeing as we saw them at the end of 999 in 2027. This means, of Sigma, Phi, and Luna, one is from the past and two are from the present. We saw Sigma's backstory, so we can fairly safely assume he's from the past. I'm not sure if Luna has ever been around during discussions of the current year, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume she also knows what year it is and just never thought to bring it up. That just leaves Phi. Remember how one of the players is probably a robot?
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ManicVolcanic posted:You know, come to think of it, I'm still curious about what kind of doctor Luna is. Her being vague about it is just suspicious enough to pique my interest, while being unsuspicious enough to make me think that they were trying to draw attention away from it. Weird. When I was playing the game for the first time, I remember thinking that maybe she was actually just a nurse or something.
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ManicVolcanic posted:You know, come to think of it, I'm still curious about what kind of doctor Luna is. Her being vague about it is just suspicious enough to pique my interest, while being unsuspicious enough to make me think that they were trying to draw attention away from it. Weird. Medical Physicist is my guess. tiistai posted:When I was playing the game for the first time, I remember thinking that maybe she was actually just a nurse or something. She specifically says she's not a nurse.
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If it's the future and the morph field is more well known, maybe she's a doc related to studying/fixing it. After all, a virologist or whatever the term is would have a tough time explaining their specific job to people in the middle ages
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Oh man, I loved 999. Never got a chance to play this one though! This is amazing so far, so many theories and ideas on what's happening and the character and all the fun stuff that happened when I played 999 is happening again. (also oh god that Tenmyouji ending. M-my heart...  )
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So I downloaded the third installment on Steam and after playing that for about two seconds I went and found my copy of this game. I'd never finished it, thinking the LP would beat the release of the third game. The 3DS bugs are incredibly annoying! My 3DS froze multiple times on a single puzzle. I couldn't hit the home button or even turn off the power. It took me 4 tries to get through the room starting from scratch each time since saving in a bugged room can kill the game (I think?). It's still really fun and I'm kind of surprised I never came back to it on my own. I do hope this LP comes back to life at some point though. The timeline hops are so much better than just starting 999 from the beginning each time you want a new route though. So many improvements in this one (aside from the game killing bugs).
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On a related note, I'm still playing it, am almost to the end as far as I can tell, and just hit the crash bug for the first time. I forget to save often, so... it's a bit frustrating. I was just finishing the last puzzle in an escape sequence, too! Bah.
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Aumanor posted:She specifically says she's not a nurse. I was an awful person and thought that she might be lying
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I think she's a generalist, she's just a fiction generalist where it means "knows everything about everything" rather than "handles the basics, and knows which specialists to contact for the rest."
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She could be a veterinarian. It's a medical profession. Or a Coroner. That could work too. She's probably a Golem technician though, considering we're getting to the point where we're kind of running out of things for her to be that make her not somewhat involved with what's going on here.
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Bruceski posted:I think she's a generalist, she's just a fiction generalist where it means "knows everything about everything" rather than "handles the basics, and knows which specialists to contact for the rest." I could have sworn at some point she said that she didn't know everything, just how to use the machines...? EponymousMrYar posted:Or a Coroner. That could work too. Didn't she say specifically that she was NOT a coroner, when examining the old woman's body?
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Sudaj posted:So I downloaded the third installment on Steam and after playing that for about two seconds I went and found my copy of this game. I'd never finished it, thinking the LP would beat the release of the third game. Yeah, saving in a bugged room won't always without-fail kill your game, but you do run the risk of corrupting the save file so it's best not to do it at all. The first time I played VLR, I never had any trouble with the bugged rooms. Second time I played it, I had it freeze on me twice when I was trying to get through the PEC room. It's incredibly unpredictable.
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I honestly think Luna is a disease researcher. I think she actually works at whatever facility this is, but isn't Zero Sr. She may work/have worked /with/ Zero though, but not be exactly onboard with the whole murder thing, of course. She's definitely suspicious and I feel like her pleasant and kind demeanor may be hiding something terrible she's guilty of.
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I have the feeling Luna is either a dentist or a vet, perhaps.
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That's it, she's K's vet/caretaker! He's a dog under that armor!
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Poland Spring posted:K is five dogs in an oversized suit of armor ... Now you have me imagining K illustrated black-and-white, revealed to be Greater Dog from Undertale. God dammit. It won't go away.  Curse you. 
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3 years after buying it, I finally finished this game largely because of ZTD's release. Hopefully Fedule finds the time and stamina and this Schrödinger's LP turns out to be alive in the end so that everyone gets to see it through, it's an interesting story for sure. Think I'll give the whole thing a re-read too.
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I hope the PC versions of 999 and VLR come out in the near future so I can play them. If I could find my DS I would get them on that but where it went is a mystery.
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Would getting ZTD spoil this game at all? I've been holding off playing it until playing VLR or this LP completes, either of which is likely a year+ it looks like
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ZTD spoils VLR in basically the first hour.
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Little_wh0re posted:Would getting ZTD spoil this game at all? yes, hugely
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They were saying before release that ZTD would be friendly to newcomers, but I don't think I've heard a bigger lie.
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Waffleman_ posted:They were saying before release that ZTD would be friendly to newcomers, but I don't think I've heard a bigger lie. Zero's ultimate victory.
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