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Emergency Tactics -> Adlo heals a stupid amount, I can generally use that and then go right back to DPSing even in a big pull if the tank has ever heard of a cooldown.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:I disagree. She can't solo heal EX roulette stuff, but I've been trying to minimize my number of healing spells cast in EX as an exercise in maximizing DPS uptime, and you'd be surprised how much she can do by herself. With a decent tank I can get by with 4-5 healing spells cast in the entire dungeon. Rouse is stronger than you think. Yeah but you're not taking into account things like proper fairy positioning and rouse when you say "Let the fairy heal and watch netflix." The fairy is surprisingly good at healing, but going afk is a good way to get your party killed. Also if you're blowing all your aetherflow on lustrates because you hosed up trying to squeeze out one more broil then you're doing the wrong thing.
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Jul 18, 2016 04:37
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Tenik posted:It sounds like your tanks should be making larger pulls. not emptyquoting.
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Jul 18, 2016 04:39
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Since we're talking about Selene anyway, is there any stuff that matters that you can actually silence to interrupt? Seems like stun usually works and silence basically does nothing worthwhile. I've spammed blunt arrow everywhere with bard and the only thing I've ever noticed interrupting is void thunder from various mobs and lunatic voice from the last boss of Pharos normal.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:06
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There are a few. The only relevant thing I can think of is Beguiling Mist in Weeping City. Most DPSes use their stuns as soon as the succubus on the second boss spawns, so you can't stun it.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:09
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You need to Silence Mind Blast in A6S or you wipe. It might be silenceable in A6N too?
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Jul 18, 2016 05:13
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Silence was a big mechanic in First Coil, had one major use in Second Coil, and then fell off the face off the earth as far as I can tell.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:15
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AST lets you give enhanced Arrows to your Monk to time dilation and send their TP spiraling out of control therefore they are the better class anyway
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Jul 18, 2016 05:16
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I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here. Encountered during a Sunday Void Ark.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:19
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Xenoveritas posted:I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here. Encountered during a Sunday Void Ark. Thats some dedication to a gimmick!
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Jul 18, 2016 05:21
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Xenoveritas posted:I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here. Encountered during a Sunday Void Ark.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:23
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You can't just post that without some more details. Which role? What cross skills used? What kind of numbers are we talking about?
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Jul 18, 2016 10:00
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Last night mentor chat became about scholar, and whether to use Selene or Eos. Most people agreed that Selene was best, but the Eos fans had theories on why they liked her better. One said that she heals more which allows you to dps more (bad premise here, also technically not true). Another said "well A3S requires Eos so it's the better fairy." Because A3S is what we should view the rest of the game on 
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Jul 18, 2016 14:21
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Parts of many of the end game raids have a good use for eos, but that's only in part of the fight. Good scholars switch fairies when needed in situations like that.
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Jul 18, 2016 14:23
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Eos's damage reduction and healing increase seem useful as insurance against mistakes. Selene would be more useful if players play well and don't need all the healing, but Eos would provide more of a buffer. At least in theory.
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Jul 18, 2016 14:28
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Did anyone enter the screenshot contest that closed today? I think there were only around 150 entrants and 100 prizes to be given away so I swear if I don't win anything I'm calling it a fix. Gimme that Ahriman necklace.
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Jul 18, 2016 14:35
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Sentient Data posted:You can't just post that without some more details. Which role? What cross skills used? What kind of numbers are we talking about? They were there as an Arcanist. To be fair, they weren't the worst DPS. Haha, just kidding, of course they were. Although there were some fairly Honest Healers that ranked below them. I never noticed them use any cross-class skills but ACT caught them using Stoneskin. Edit: Forgot to mention that they used Topaz Carbuncle the entire time. Pretty sure they were intentionally trolling. But it's Void Ark, so who cares?
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Jul 18, 2016 14:42
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Did anyone enter the screenshot contest that closed today? I think there were only around 150 entrants and 100 prizes to be given away so I swear if I don't win anything I'm calling it a fix. Gimme that Ahriman necklace. Aw, I didn't even know this was going on. Xenoveritas posted:I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here. Encountered during a Sunday Void Ark. Someone....someone did tell them what Jobs were right? I mean... why would you ever make things that hard on yourself?
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Jul 18, 2016 14:53
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Aw, I didn't even know this was going on. Judging by their search comment, yes they're fully aware.
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Jul 18, 2016 15:09
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FactsAreUseless posted:Eos's damage reduction and healing increase seem useful as insurance against mistakes. Selene would be more useful if players play well and don't need all the healing, but Eos would provide more of a buffer. At least in theory. In 4-man situations I don't think there's ever been a time where I've though "huh, my healing is too low, better use Eos." The only fight I've ever really actively used Eos has been in phases of extreme primal fights. That 3% skill / spell doesn't seem like much, but every little edge helps. Selene's AOE esuna cleanse is also excellent too, especially if your tank is a warrior. One thing that isn't really explained well in the game is that if your party has good DPS, you can skip phases of bosses, and it actually makes healing easier. There's a good example of this in the very first level 60 dungeon final boss, that if you're slow on DPS, it starts spawning hard to dodge AOEs. Hence why I think the best mitigation is more DPS.
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Jul 18, 2016 15:41
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Xenoveritas posted:I'm just going to go ahead and leave this here. Encountered during a Sunday Void Ark. This is why I want SE to remove class equipable from all post 30 gear, it's not like they can't change what can equip what gear, they did it before when they added rogue/ninja.
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Jul 18, 2016 15:50
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Kwyndig posted:This is why I want SE to remove class equipable from all post 30 gear, it's not like they can't change what can equip what gear, they did it before when they added rogue/ninja. Or they could just make it so you must be an actual Job to queue for any post 30 dungeon in the duty finder. That way if you want to do a dungeon as a class; go right ahead, but only as a premade.
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Jul 18, 2016 15:55
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The class gimmick isn't necessarily a bad one, but maybe it should just be reserved for a challenge option similar to iLevel Sync?
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Jul 18, 2016 15:57
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Nah, the class gimmick is actually bad. It might as well be someone with a controller, that only uses one bar, and it's only the first 8 skills they unlocked. I don't see the need to lock someone out directly at 30, but 50 should be a fair bet.
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Jul 18, 2016 16:10
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re: scholar pet talk, use Rouse. 40% more healing for 20s and only has a 90s cd so you can use it just about every pull. adlo/stoneskin the tank before a pull so you can spend more time manning the broiler. even with multipulls i barely heal in EXDR anymore
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Jul 18, 2016 16:19
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Pretty sure rouse is 60sec cd, it lines up nicely with Fey Wind so you can stack them for more better heals (I dunno if the extra spell speed actually makes selene cast an extra embrace in 20 seconds  )
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Nah, the class gimmick is actually bad. It might as well be someone with a controller, that only uses one bar, and it's only the first 8 skills they unlocked. It's me, I am the guy who uses a controller. In fairness, I've only been playing Dragoon up to this point, and my whole rotation plus jumps fits in there, my job is not a very hard one. Moving around just feels better with it, and mashing A to hand over key items and fill all those buckets quests want you to fill is way less tiresome.
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I love playing with a controller. It's comfortable, it's easy to juggle all my dots with healing and pet control, and I find targeting straightforward. On occasion I'll jump between mouse and controller for inventory management or similar.
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Jul 18, 2016 16:27
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Yeah, I've got a number key hotbar set up for consumables and other such things, I'm thinking of trying some flavour of mage next and I'll probably have to get used to swapping hotbars quickly at the very least.
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Iron Tusk posted:Judging by their search comment, yes they're fully aware. Ah, see, here I was thinking top hats and monocles.
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Davoren posted:It's me, I am the guy who uses a controller. That statement isn't complaining about people playing on controllers, because the pad controls in this are actually really good. It's complaining about people who only have one hotbar configured.
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For some reason I completely forgot that most Heavensward dungeons don't let you do actually taxing multipulls anymore. So yeah, in EX/60 roulette you don't really need to do any personal healing unless someone's screwing up or you're doing that one bee skip in Arboretum. Expert roulette sucks now bring back Brayflox style pulls 
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Lemon-Lime posted:That statement isn't complaining about people playing on controllers, because the pad controls in this are actually really good. It's complaining about people who only have one hotbar configured.
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WhiteHowler posted:I still haven't figured out how to do a good multi-bar setup for controller yet (I switch to keyboard+mouse for groups). Is there a trick I'm missing, or is it just putting your less-used stuff on a second hotbar and using LB/RB (L1/R1) to swap between the bars frequently? There's an option you can enable that makes holding LT+RT or RT+LT access a second hotbar. Why it's not on by default, who knows.
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We had a random BLM pout in protest because I only pulled the first 2 groups in...not hullbreaker HM for expert. Just sat their butt down and didn't do anything until we noticed and kicked them out. Im just like how childish are you to want to go sit back in the queue for 10 minutes? We still finished in like 23 minutes or whatever even with that litte delay.
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I haven't really done the high level mmo thing as back when I used to play them a lot it wasn't so easy to get up there. Because of this I'm concerned about always pulling my weight, but it doesn't sound like the competition is that stiff.
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Davoren posted:I haven't really done the high level mmo thing as back when I used to play them a lot it wasn't so easy to get up there. Because of this I'm concerned about always pulling my weight, but it doesn't sound like the competition is that stiff. Can you recognize the color orange and then avoid it?
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Jul 18, 2016 17:22
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I'm gonna say a solid 95% of the time.
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Oh man this feeling... is this what it is to be pro?? Also when I remember to see if any of the names I know of on Cactuar are around they're always offline, if you see Dav Orren add me to whatever goon mess we have going on.
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