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pookel posted:You know, I don't care how irrational it is, if there's a suggestion on the table to make all mosquitoes extinct, I'm on team murder the little fuckers, every last one of them. hope you enjoy the extinction of half the ecosphere where you live, namaste
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Literally The Worst posted:hope you enjoy the extinction of half the ecosphere where you live, namaste
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Jul 18, 2016 05:02
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pookel posted:You know, I don't care how irrational it is, if there's a suggestion on the table to make all mosquitoes extinct, I'm on team murder the little fuckers, every last one of them. There was an actual not idiotic scientific discussion about this on NPR the other day, talking about if it would have some unrealized cataclysmic effect on the food web, and the answer was surprisingly that a lot of scientists are leaning towards "actually probably not really" so yeah burn the fuckers
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Jul 18, 2016 05:23
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Not to defend these people who probably haven't thought about this at all, but there are species of mosquitoes that don't drink mammal blood as part of their reproductive cycle that fill most of the same aquatic niches. We don't know there are no species that depend explicitly on the literal blood sucking parasites for survival, but it seems possible. With more research into the exact role mosquitoes play, I could certainly endorse their eradication except in labs. We did it with smallpox and we're close to doing it with polio. No one morns those. Edit: ^^^ yeah that.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:27
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ikanreed posted:\We did it with smallpox and we're close to doing it with polio. No one morns those. disease: the same as animals
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Jul 18, 2016 05:29
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm starting to think there's a long line of (uniformly male) thinkers whose entire ouvre is just them trying to "get out of their own heads" and relate to the world around them, failing, blaming the world for their personal failings, and retreating into paranoia. I didn't wake up this morning expecting to draw parallels from Scott Adams to Yukio Mishima, but there you go. Out of idle curiosity, what's the best way to interrupt this process? Or, failing that, direct it towards positive/lucrative/non-harmful ends.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:33
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If you think about it getting bit by a mosquito a few times a year is exactly as bad as smallpox
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Jul 18, 2016 05:34
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Literally The Worst posted:If you think about it getting bit by a mosquito a few times a year is exactly as bad as smallpox I think hundreds of thousands of people dying to malaria every year is pretty bad, yeah.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:37
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What if we wiped out only the species that feed on mammals? Is that kind of selectiveness plausible?
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Jul 18, 2016 05:44
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Literally The Worst posted:disease: the same as animals In this base their both incredibly simple organisms that cause millions of deaths a year, and contribute no known positives to the human condition. More research is needed, but the underlying ethical question is pretty drat similar. Being multicellular isn't a particularly good ethical defense to me.
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Jul 18, 2016 05:48
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I think hundreds of thousands of people dying to malaria every year is pretty bad, yeah. Because that's what everyone was thinking of And besides it sounds like malaria is the issue there not mosquitoes in and of themselves
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Jul 18, 2016 05:50
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Pope Guilty posted:What if we wiped out only the species that feed on mammals? Is that kind of selectiveness plausible? Absolutely, we're currently working on a form of genetically modified mosquito that can breed exactly once, but all the children it has are sterile. It was supposed to be field tested in key west because it would be easy to quarantine should we gently caress it up royally but key west is full of hippies who blocked it so who knows
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Jul 18, 2016 05:54
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Literally The Worst posted:Because that's what everyone was thinking of And west nile and a whole bunch of parasites and yellow fever and dengue fever and chikungunya and zika and bunyamwera and filariasis and sleeping sickness and venezuelan equine encephalitis and myxomatosis and lymphadenopathy and bwamba fever and ross river fever and avian malaria and that's just the ones I feel like retyping from wikipedia's list of mosquito-borne illnesses Defeating the individual diseases would be great but defeating their vectors would be even better because 1) that's a lot of loving diseases to individually beat and 2) they mostly effect the developing world which we love to ignore so badly that they still have tons of cases of something like snail fever for which the treatment costs twenty cents per child
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Jul 18, 2016 06:00
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Literally The Worst posted:Because that's what everyone was thinking of E: Plus yeah, all of the other poo poo that mozzies carry.
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Jul 18, 2016 06:01
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You know what you're right I'm sure this time when we gently caress around with vital parts of the ecosystem it'll be different
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Jul 18, 2016 06:03
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I assume so, because it was explicitly mentioned in the first bullet point in the link, is widely acknowledged as a major world health concern, and is the focus of some prominent charity work (Gates' work). I think they meant everyone was thinking of the inconvenience of a few bites rather than the disease. Also I live in florida and it's way more than a few bites, it's a constant barrage every single day of the summer anywhere that's not heavily urban 
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Jul 18, 2016 06:03
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Literally The Worst posted:You know what you're right I'm sure this time when we gently caress around with vital parts of the ecosystem it'll be different This is the same logic that has kept new nuclear reactors from being built in the US for the last 40 years
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Jul 18, 2016 06:04
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:This is the same logic that has kept new nuclear reactors from being built in the US for the last 40 years No I'm pretty sure we have Big Oil and Big Coal to thank for that
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Jul 18, 2016 06:07
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Or ANY nuclear reactors from being built in Australia, which is insane. And BS fears of 'playing God' also drive anti-GMO efforts.Parallel Paraplegic posted:There was an actual not idiotic scientific discussion about this on NPR the other day, talking about if it would have some unrealized cataclysmic effect on the food web, and the answer was surprisingly that a lot of scientists are leaning towards "actually probably not really" so yeah burn the fuckers Just mosquitos? I got my redtext by asking why we don't eliminate all animals that pose a threat to indvidual human lives, only keeping DNA samples for study and maybe some like great white sharks in zoos. We're the top of the food chain - we shouldn't suffer a risk from ANY other species. But apparently it's unfeasible. So start with the mosquitos.
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Count Chocula posted:Just mosquitos? I got my redtext by asking why we don't eliminate all animals that pose a threat to indvidual human lives, only keeping DNA samples for study and maybe some like great white sharks in zoos. We're the top of the food chain - we shouldn't suffer a risk from ANY other species. You don't say 
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Jul 18, 2016 06:15
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Count Chocula posted:all animals that pose a threat to indvidual human lives see, I was gonna make some comment about "including humans?" but then I remembered your posts about your stupid dumbass self-centered ~nihilism~ and poo poo so, like, w/e
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Count Chocula posted:Just mosquitos? I got my redtext by asking why we don't eliminate all animals that pose a threat to indvidual human lives, only keeping DNA samples for study and maybe some like great white sharks in zoos. We're the top of the food chain - we shouldn't suffer a risk from ANY other species. Have you considered exposure therapy for your obsessive fear of death? Like, dying a bunch of times in succession?
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Jul 18, 2016 06:18
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Count Chocula posted:Or ANY nuclear reactors from being built in Australia, which is insane. And BS fears of 'playing God' also drive anti-GMO efforts. Still, dead worlds are indeed more peaceful, you whiny amaxophobic narcissist. loving hell, get loving therapy.
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Jul 18, 2016 06:22
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Literally The Worst posted:You know what you're right I'm sure this time when we gently caress around with vital parts of the ecosystem it'll be different I'm not suggesting that it's a good idea (although we don't really know how vital they are), but eliminating malaria and other diseases they carry is a genuinely worthwhile goal which is why it gets attention outside of the EA community. It's not just people getting annoyed by mozzie bites.
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Jul 18, 2016 06:26
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Oh my gooooooddd
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Jul 18, 2016 06:40
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Count Chocula posted:Or ANY nuclear reactors from being built in Australia, which is insane. And BS fears of 'playing God' also drive anti-GMO efforts. You're more likely to die from cars, yourself or other people first so let's make all those extinct and then we can get to work on destroying great white shark populations
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Jul 18, 2016 06:51
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You guys should all read the Screwfly Solution. Great short story, sort of relevant to this topic, about making a species of fly extinct through genetic modification, also an exploration of violent misogyny. It has everything!
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a trolley posted:You guys should all read the Screwfly Solution. Agreed, that story is amazing. But it's the political angle that's still relevant, not the mechanism that puts the allegory in place.
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Jul 18, 2016 07:52
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Literally The Worst posted:You know what you're right I'm sure this time when we gently caress around with vital parts of the ecosystem it'll be different Do you or do you not understand that the amount of mosquito species that carry disease, or even attack humans for that matter, are a minuscule portion of all mosquito species?
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Jul 18, 2016 10:31
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To get the thread back on track, Matt He really is a charming piece of poo poo.
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Jul 18, 2016 10:54
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Count Chocula posted:Or ANY nuclear reactors from being built in Australia, which is insane. And BS fears of 'playing God' also drive anti-GMO efforts. They don't keep great whites in zoos.
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Tesseraction posted:To get the thread back on track, Matt
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Literally The Worst posted:No I'm pretty sure we have Big Oil and Big Coal to thank for that Sure, they take the lion's share of the credit, but NIMBYism isn't blameless by any stretch of the imagination. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They don't keep great whites in zoos. They also don't pose a threat to humans because we don't live in the ocean.
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Who What Now posted:They also don't pose a threat to humans because we don't live in the ocean. ... yet, because the loving great whites keep us out. Duh.
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Jul 18, 2016 13:18
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I'm in the controversial anti-vampire camp.
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Jul 18, 2016 13:25
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GunnerJ posted:I'm in the controversial anti-vampire camp. Anne Rice is a powerful lobbyist for the pro side.
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Jul 18, 2016 13:44
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Who What Now posted:They also don't pose a threat to humans because we don't live in the ocean. Well yeah, that too. What would be the point? Turn the world into a lawn?
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Jul 18, 2016 14:16
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Cardboard Box A posted:Matt Fornicator being a My Posting Career poster makes so much sense holy poo poo Where do you see that?
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Jul 18, 2016 14:48
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Oh at first I thought "My Posting Career" was a new wordfilter for like, "shitposting" or something. That would actually be a great wordfilter someone should suggest it.
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My Posting Career would seem like a good target for a Weekend Web.
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