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lmao Teila Tuli versus that skinny guy
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 03:13 |
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tumor looking batty posted:lmao Teila Tuli versus that skinny guy i always point out even though he just looks like a skinny dude next to Tuli, Gordeau actually is 6'5 and 210 lbs and a pretty decent kickboxer especially for that time. Hes also a dirty SOB who bit Gracies face and arm in their fight and later eye gouged the poo poo out of a tiny japanese guy he fought and blinded him permanently
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 03:24 |
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manyak posted:i always point out even though he just looks like a skinny dude next to Tuli, Gordeau actually is 6'5 and 210 lbs and a pretty decent kickboxer especially for that time. Hes also a dirty SOB who bit Gracies face and arm in their fight and later eye gouged the poo poo out of a tiny japanese guy he fought and blinded him permanently The guy he blinded (in one eye) was Yuki Nakai, who not only won that match (heelhooked Gordeau) he then went on to win his next match in the tournament and lose to Rickson Gracie in the finals. He then proceeded to keep the fact that he'd been partially blinded secret for years because he feared that it would damage the image of mma as a legitimate sport.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 03:34 |
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After losing to Rickson he went and trained with the gracies and became (I believe) the first Japanese bjj black belt. Really a guy who should be remembered.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 04:12 |
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Sorry the FAQs took me this long to get posted, it took me longer than I thought! If you are super new to MMA, please don't hesitate to ask for anything else to be added to this and I will do my best. I want this to be helpful and informative. Bluedeanie posted:Completely new to MMA and want to figure out what to do with yourself? Look no further than this FAQ! e: fixed some html tag issues Bluedeanie fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jul 19, 2016 |
# ? Jul 18, 2016 06:20 |
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fatherdog posted:The guy he blinded (in one eye) was Yuki Nakai, who not only won that match (heelhooked Gordeau) he then went on to win his next match in the tournament and lose to Rickson Gracie in the finals. He then proceeded to keep the fact that he'd been partially blinded secret for years because he feared that it would damage the image of mma as a legitimate sport. holy poo poo Bluedeanie posted:Sorry the FAQs took me this long to get posted, it took me longer than I thought! holy poo poo
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 06:37 |
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Bluedeanie posted:MMA as we understand it today really began to form in 1993, when pay-per-view broadcasting pioneer SEG aired an eight-man “no holds barred” one-night fighting tournament called The Ultimate Fighting Championship, which really was not all that dissimilar to the LeBell-Savage stunt. The goal was to pit eight practitioners of various martial artists against one another in a tourney format to “determine” the baddest dudes and best styles; it was won by Royce Gracie of the Gracie Family, a martial arts dynasty that developed the Brazilian style of jiu jitsu. In some ways that night set the tone for the future of MMA training and talent development — everyone seemed to realize that submission grappling was a really strong base as it provided a problem that no pure striker really had an answer to at the time, plus it can be seen as the catalyst for there being so many fiercely nationalistic Brazilian fighters in MMA who came to view Royce as something of a folk hero. I think it's important to note that the Gracies were involved with the UFC to a greater degree than implied in this section. Rorion Gracie worked with Art Davies and SEG to plan the first UFC. Here he is with Art Davies at UFC 1's rule meeting: It wasn't that Royce was a random competitor that managed to get picked randomly -- he was a ringer that the organizers knew would have a good shot at winning. So Royce won like the Gracies were counting on him to, which not only kicked off the sport, but also brought folks in to train at Gracie BJJ schools, leading to a separate history of the commercialization of BJJ. Some more reading on how the Gracies were involved with UFC 1: http://mmajunkie.com/2014/06/ufc-co-founder-art-davie-gracies-group-of-alpha-males-trying-to-impress-the-old-man http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/11/12/5043630/rorion-gracie-and-the-day-he-created-the-ufc http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/haymaker/the-story-of-how-ufc-1-was-almost-derailed-at-the-11th-hour-070114
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 07:11 |
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And no Gracie has won a UFC bout since torsion quit his rules czar position, which actually saw him changing the rules mid fight at one point to allow Royce to walk away with a draw.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 11:42 |
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Bluedeanie posted:MMA as we understand it today really began to form in 1993, when pay-per-view broadcasting pioneer SEG aired an eight-man “no holds barred” one-night fighting tournament called The Ultimate Fighting Championship, which really was not all that dissimilar to the LeBell-Savage stunt. As a piece of trivia - this is broadly true, but Shooto was actually putting on professional mixed rules striking-grappling shows as early as 1989. While you could point to that as the beginning of mma as we know it, it's largely academic as you are unlikely to ever talk to anyone who's actually seen early Shooto, unless the yellow brick road leads you past Joe Silva's house.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 12:40 |
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Great work, Bluedeanie I do just want to add that not only was Blatnick a great judge, he was also an early UFC commentator and commissioner and he helped develop the unified rules.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:21 |
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fatherdog posted:you are unlikely to ever talk to anyone who's actually seen early Shooto, unless the yellow brick road leads you past Joe Silva's house. Well, he is a munchkin.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:35 |
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Bluedeanie posted:Sorry the FAQs took me this long to get posted, it took me longer than I thought! e: fun fact for newbies: I mention four fighters in this post and three of them have the first name 'Jessica'. Can you spot the aberration? Zwachro fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jul 18, 2016 |
# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:42 |
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I'm still having issues not conflating "bjj" and the Klingon word for pain, "bij." Does this ever come up in these threads and if so, how often? (This is an honest question. I'm not trying to make my own joke with it)
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:42 |
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:I'm still having issues not conflating "bjj" and the Klingon word for pain, "bij." Does this ever come up in these threads and if so, how often? (This is an honest question. I'm not trying to make my own joke with it) I can safely say this has not once come up in any combat sports thread I have seen on Something Awful, although a few days ago b league fighter Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos received a complimentary set of klingon forehead ridges.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 21:54 |
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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:I'm still having issues not conflating "bjj" and the Klingon word for pain, "bij." Does this ever come up in these threads and if so, how often? (This is an honest question. I'm not trying to make my own joke with it)
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 02:40 |
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can someone give me a brief (or not-so-brief, if you're so inclined) history of joe silva / sean shelby? i've heard bits and pieces about joe and he fascinates me insofar as he's a way bigger fan of this than i can ever be but i know loving nothing about sean shelby and they have both gotten insanely good at their jobs.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 02:43 |
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This doesn't dive deep into their backgrounds, but I always liked this article about the things that Joe Silva and Sean Shelby have to deal with: http://mmajunkie.com/2013/08/powerful-but-a-little-misunderstood-ufc-matchmakers-joe-silva-and-sean-shelby
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 02:55 |
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Marching Powder posted:can someone give me a brief (or not-so-brief, if you're so inclined) history of joe silva / sean shelby? i've heard bits and pieces about joe and he fascinates me insofar as he's a way bigger fan of this than i can ever be but i know loving nothing about sean shelby and they have both gotten insanely good at their jobs. Joe Silva was a wrestling fan who got keyed into Pancrase even before the UFC. He started watching UFC with the first show because Shamrock was in it, and instantly became a fan of MMA. He got in on watching the early Japanese Shooto stuff through tape trading and may very well have seen more mma than anyone else on the planet. he got hired as matchmaker by SEG (iirc, because he was writing them letters complaining about matchups/recommending fighters from other feds) and I think was the only employee that Zuffa kept when they bought them out. I don' tknow nearly as much about Sean Shelby; he was the matchmaker for WEC (and did an obvjectively fantastic job) and when Zuffa folded in the WEC they wisely kept him on to matchmake for the lower weight classes.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 02:56 |
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thank you both that's good poo poorad article posted:As I would learn during my hour-long conversation with the two, the paranoia wasn’t unfounded. Turns out that the last time someone told Shelby he had to have his photo taken was when Zuffa needed new ID badges for all employees in the Las Vegas office. So Shelby did his part, sat for his headshot, then went about his day. lol
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 03:01 |
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Bundt Cake posted:10 years. never seen it Too busy experiencing beejs
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 03:09 |
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Sean Shelby ran this defunct site back in the day and I'm insanely jealous that his nerdiness got him a cool job
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 04:13 |
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I was reading the FAQ and thinking about what a let-down it was that UFC 200 was a let-down. I had watched the first UFC when I was a kid, and then started watching a few around ~75 but UFC 100 was what really got me hooked. It's too bad that the 200 card was such a stinker because it was a huge opportunity to draw new people into the sport. We won't ever know if playing hardball with McGregor was the right move long term for the UFC, but it will have long term effects I think because of how many fans they could have added.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 08:33 |
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On the subject of judging/refereeing, Big John McCarthy did a great podcast with Joey Diaz where he covered a bunch of topics you'd expect a referee to cover. The podcast was 3 months ago but was recently uploaded to youtube, so: When to stop a fight: 8m24s Explains how Jackson/Winkeljohn influence judge scoring in a fight: 35m35s Process for becoming a judge: 52m18s Stopping a fight without assigning blame on a judge: 1h13m44s (him doing it I guess: Tank Abbott vs Cabbage, 4m22s) Lots of other gold in this podcast.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 11:15 |
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Yeah, that's a real good watch.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 11:57 |
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The scoring talk after the Jackson/Winkeljohn time tag there should be mandatory listening for all.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 13:02 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The scoring talk after the Jackson/Winkeljohn time tag there should be mandatory listening for all. Yeah that was fantastic
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 14:24 |
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homercles posted:On the subject of judging/refereeing, Big John McCarthy did a great podcast with Joey Diaz where he covered a bunch of topics you'd expect a referee to cover. The podcast was 3 months ago but was recently uploaded to youtube, so: Very cool, ty
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The scoring talk after the Jackson/Winkeljohn time tag there should be mandatory listening for all. Yeah, massive pro-click. John basically says "the graphics UFC shows and the stuff Joe Rogan says about judging are total horseshit," and then he explains what the judges are actually looking for.
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Shine posted:Yeah, massive pro-click. John basically says "the graphics UFC shows and the stuff Joe Rogan says about judging are total horseshit," and then he explains what the judges are actually looking for. All those graphics basically stem from the whole "trying to look like a real sport" thing, same as the Reebok uniforms. The big sports all have all sorts of stats and metrics the broadcasters can ramble about endlessly without having to do real analysis so in an effort to let the announcers imitate the NFL-ish "Well, Aaron Rodgers have a passer rating of 124, and his ball holding time per play is really high so that means he is good" they've added all these vaguely meaningless metrics about "head strikes attempted" and "distance traveled in the octagon" and so on.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 23:05 |
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in response to the Becoming A Judge topic mccarthy went over, in mississippi i became a sanctioned judge for MMA and boxing by literally just filing an application and sending it in, no interview process or anything. i was assigned to two shows even.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 23:42 |
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JOHN CENA posted:in response to the Becoming A Judge topic mccarthy went over, in mississippi i became a sanctioned judge for MMA and boxing by literally just filing an application and sending it in, no interview process or anything. i was assigned to two shows even. What do you get paid?
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 23:57 |
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BlindSite posted:What do you get paid? i couldn't make one show because it was on the opposite end of the state and they werent covering transpo (MS Boxing commission for ya lol), the show i went to at imperial palace was a $200 gig. i was assigned to no fights despite being assigned to the show.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 00:07 |
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JOHN CENA posted:i couldn't make one show because it was on the opposite end of the state and they werent covering transpo (MS Boxing commission for ya lol), the show i went to at imperial palace was a $200 gig. i was assigned to no fights despite being assigned to the show. Thank God for Mississippi
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 01:10 |
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And that's not a slight on you, just the fact that you can send in an application on a whim, get approved, get assigned, and then not judge a fight. Thank God for Mississippi. Y'all saved Iowa from being the last state to send a woman to Washington/and or elect a woman governor. I appreciate that on a personal level.
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Eat This Glob posted:And that's not a slight on you, just the fact that you can send in an application on a whim, get approved, get assigned, and then not judge a fight. Thank God for Mississippi. Y'all saved Iowa from being the last state to send a woman to Washington/and or elect a woman governor. I appreciate that on a personal level. From what I've researched, it's more or less like this in Missouri as well. Fill out a form, pay a fee, judge fights to your heart's content. Bluedeanie fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Bluedeanie posted:From what I've researched, it's more or less like this in Missouri as well. Fill out a former, pay a fee, judge fights to your heart's content. That's awesome/ridiculous. I'll have to see what iowa's are. I don't even know if we have a comission.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 20:48 |
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One nitpick: UFC's new owners are WME-IMG, not INC. I know this because I had a cup of coffee with the latter a lifetime ago, before their merger. regardless of that you should join my petition to make Koop the new UFC booker where I mandate all title fights take place in a Lego Deathmatch where we scatter legos all over the canvas
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 22:35 |
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Yeah
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# ? Jul 25, 2016 00:10 |
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C. Everett Koop posted:One nitpick: UFC's new owners are WME-IMG, not INC. I know this because I had a cup of coffee with the latter a lifetime ago, before their merger. That's cool you had coffee with the whole company.
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kimbo305 posted:That's cool you had coffee with the whole company. who do you have coffee with motherf***er?
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