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Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Who can I send a modified list to that is not someone like Brodeuds Nanny who will steal my brilliant idea for a pick.


Brodeurs Nanny posted:

He's really quite bad, it's absurd how little offensive upside he has considering he went 4th overall. Use him as a PK specialist and you'll be fine

His 5v5 scoring rates are better than or on par with Fowler over the last few years but then Fowler also sucks sooo

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Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



eXXon posted:

Who can I send a modified list to that is not someone like Brodeuds Nanny who will steal my brilliant idea for a pick.


His 5v5 scoring rates are better than or on par with Fowler over the last few years but then Fowler also sucks sooo

i'll be around

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!
He's cheap and I like him




Justin Williams

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

I like Williams.

So it's exxon next then I believe

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Brodeurs Nanny posted:

I like Williams.

So it's exxon next then I believe

You go before me dude hurrry

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

eXXon posted:

You go before me dude hurrry

Ah sorry dude.

So I was sure I was going to take a certain player right up until T-Bone set a precedent and drafted Provorov. Looking at the D left, it's really slim and I believe that the only guy who challenges Provorov for best D prospect in the NHL is not going to make it back to me.

The Winnipeg Jets select Zach Werenski, a 6'3" 200 D who has excelled at every level thus far and has insane tools and smarts. I think he's going to make the Jackets out of camp and make an immediate impact. If he comes up and looks good, I'd probably play him with Doughty and shelter him in the offensive zone and give Hamonic the more difficult zone starts.

Brodeurs Nanny fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jul 18, 2016

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Parise-Bergeron-Simmonds
Steen-Kadri

Doughty-Hamonic
Werenski

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



his name is Zach

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Haha oh man. Brain lapse

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
it's too late, he already selected David

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Yeah he's going to make Columbus. He ripped it up in the AHL playoffs and for my money looked the most NHL ready of any d-man at the WJ (his skating is insane).

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

T-Bone posted:

Yeah he's going to make Columbus. He ripped it up in the AHL playoffs and for my money looked the most NHL ready of any d-man at the WJ (his skating is insane).

Yeah it's the loving skating. It's unbelievable.

Every player I've wanted has fallen to me in this draft - people are picking D really early and leaving a lot of really good vet forwards on the table. It's kinda interesting.

I really like my team with the addition of Werenski, I think my top 3 on D is really loving solid and I have five terrific forwards.

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

It makes you look at the Devils prospects and get excited doesn't it. Oh wait it's a landfill aside from two dudes

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
I like the crazy goalie they drafted too, so 2 and a half

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Well I wasn'tt planning on picking him again never mind like 7 rounds earlier than last year but since you jerks took Provorov and Werenski I guess I have to take the last next great young left defenseman left in Shea Theodore. Hopefully the Ducks manage to dump Fowler and that other lovely guy whose name ends in er and is even worse into the ocean and let Theodore play serious minutes behind Lindholm.

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

T-Bone posted:

I like the crazy goalie they drafted too, so 2 and a half

Forgot about him yeah him too.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

eXXon posted:

Well I wasn'tt planning on picking him again never mind like 7 rounds earlier than last year but since you jerks took Provorov and Werenski I guess I have to take the last next great young left defenseman left in Shea Theodore. Hopefully the Ducks manage to dump Fowler and that other lovely guy whose name ends in er and is even worse into the ocean and let Theodore play serious minutes behind Lindholm.

He's pretty good and will also make his team I think. Long live the Cap and ELCs.

This is reminding me that I took Josh Morrrissey way too loving early a draft or two ago.

Let us all not have Josh Morrisseys.

I can say his name right? I mean if someone wants to take him go for it.


e: gently caress he has two Rs and two Ss -- gently caress that kid

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Theodore is good but a clear level below our two badboy D kids

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

Brodeurs Nanny posted:

The Winnipeg Jets select Zach Werenski

You're a real piece of work pal

crap

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Brodeurs Nanny posted:

Theodore is good but a clear level below our two badboy D kids

Yeah I'm sure your expert opinion having scouted all three matters a lot here.

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

eXXon posted:

Yeah I'm sure your expert opinion having scouted all three matters a lot here.

I don't know anyone who doesn't see both of those two as better prospects. Theodore is a good pick here and I like him plenty, but I know less of what to expect of him at the NHL level, especially defensively.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Brodeurs Nanny posted:

I don't know anyone who doesn't see both of those two as better prospects. Theodore is a good pick here and I like him plenty, but I know less of what to expect of him at the NHL level, especially defensively.

I mean he played actual games in the NHL so other than not putting up a point in the playoffs he had as good of a 19-20 season as a defenseman can have and is a year ahead in development even if his ceiling is lower or whatever.

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

eXXon posted:

I mean he played actual games in the NHL so other than not putting up a point in the playoffs he had as good of a 19-20 season as a defenseman can have and is a year ahead in development even if his ceiling is lower or whatever.

Right, I'm simply arguing that he has a lower ceiling.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
"Even though my second line isn't finished yet I'll take this unproven defense prospect" - idiot GMs in this thread

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

tofes posted:

"Even though my second line isn't finished yet I'll take this unproven defense prospect" - idiot GMs in this thread

Werenski is a sure thing dude. I wouldn't spend a pick on a guy who wasn't top-tier who has wrecked every level of the league with incredible tools. Plus, there's the nature of a salary cap/player value (3 years of Werenski at under $1m per is better value than some of the aging veterans left at much higher salaries. There are plenty of good forwards left to fill out my second line later on.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



tofes posted:

"Even though my second line isn't finished yet I'll take this unproven defense prospect" - idiot GMs in this thread

You could build ten second lines out of all of the LWs still on the board whereas the proven defense mans mostly suck poo poo you bad opinion haver.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



I have loving binders full of left wingers

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

tofes posted:

"Even though my second line isn't finished yet I'll take this unproven defense prospect" - idiot GMs in this thread

hrmm umrph arr let's see here TOMAS HERTL never heard of him I'll take Havlat - tofes in 2013

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
He's a bit older but super consistent and the real star of Montreal's D, Andrei Markov

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Markov is still very good

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Wow Brassard just got traded for Zibanejad in real hockey news

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


FBS posted:

You're a real piece of work pal

crap

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

lazerwolf posted:

He's a bit older but super consistent and the real star of Montreal's D, Andrei Markov

This is a good pick and I would've stolen him if he fell.

Also 18 is a bit young for dudes that aren't named McDavid or Matthews. You guys are getting a bit HFboardsy with the prospects. Gonna be a lot of folks saying "Well my team may be better than yours in four or five seasons so long as my players don't get broken and develop as intended"

Pedigree drafting will get you the Zach Fucales of the world.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Listen pal I took Ehlers and Panarin last year maybe you don't know your prospects but big T does

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

This is a good pick and I would've stolen him if he fell.

Also 18 is a bit young for dudes that aren't named McDavid or Matthews. You guys are getting a bit HFboardsy with the prospects. Gonna be a lot of folks saying "Well my team may be better than yours in four or five seasons so long as my players don't get broken and develop as intended"

Pedigree drafting will get you the Zach Fucales of the world.

There are only a select few players I would take this early who are that young and Werenski is one of them. Also, he's 19. Also, have you been following him at all?

You guys are also forgetting the salary cap. Again, it's worth taking a chance on a guy who will be serviceable at worst and Norris contender at best for 3 years of an ELC hit than to take a declining veteran for way more at this stage. If we are talking forwards, I would wait a while to take a prospect, but the D field is really slim now.

Also have you followed him at all? He's like really really good

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


Werenski is the poo poo.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



It's almost as if NHL forwards peak around 24 and defensemen around 27.

Two years ago I picked Kadri, Kuznetsov and Draisaitl as centers and everyone laughed but this year they went #155, #40 and #59 so gently caress y'all.

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

Boomer The Cannon posted:

Werenski is the poo poo.

For real, watching highlights of him is so cool, the effortless skating away from trouble and sick transition passes never get old. And he already has the body and hockey mind of a veteran

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



i think you are looking from a really narrow view if you believe the D pool is slim right now

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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

To his credit left-d is pretty barren of positive possession players at this point. The few that are left are ancient or uncertain commodities.
My argument is solely in the context of the the draft, not so much for Werenski as a prospect. It's a bit of a short-coming in our design but picking prospects who still need multiple years to develop doesn't offer much to argue over in terms of they way we construct teams.


That said if he plays next year and is awesome I'll gladly eat my words.

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