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Polnareff should have died
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Jul 19, 2016 21:25
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EmmyOk posted:Polnareff should have died Because you like Kak more, or is there another reason?
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Jul 19, 2016 21:29
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Moltrey posted:Every day I wake up and whisper a silent prayer that while it took a while, we got a good JoJo anime relatively painlessly while I don't even know how many Berserk adaptations there are that people are unhappy with At this point just one - the new anime makes the CG in the movies look downright decent. The movies were always secretly good though despite the whiners.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:34
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hoobajoo posted:Because you like Kak more, or is there another reason? I didn't mean instead of Kakyoin. Kakyoin dying was fine because he did something great as his final act and it ruled extremely hard. Joseph staying dead would have made a lot of sense too imo. Polnareff surviving felt weird to me because effectively three characters were sacrificed to save him and then he didn't even accomplish much against ZA WARLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:34
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Avdol had to die because his powers were too strong to write around. Iggy had to die because it was Part 3 and Araki couldn't suffer a dog to live.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:38
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Spoiler, nothing bad ever happens to Koichi's dog. Guess Araki must've finally mellowed out.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:40
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Quite apropos that Police doesn't die, all things considered
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Jul 19, 2016 21:42
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hoobajoo posted:I'm interested in this, could you elaborate? I've made some post in one of these JoJo threads wondering if maybe Polnareff's arc would be better if he was the one to actually die saving Iggy, considering how much was on him having to get saved by his friends for his mistakes. While it's fun to think about, I doubt it'd actually be Better, but I'm not a super big fan of Polnareff or even Joseph really, so it's just a lot of "please kakyoin  " Like even in New Kakyoin's story mode for the Part 3 arcade fighter, it's either implied or stated that even though he survives the fight with DIO, he dies on the plane home from his wounds, like cut the guy a break jesus. gently caress you Joseph and magic vampire blood, let this kid live.EmmyOk posted:FWIW it has a very natural stopping point before the newest arc but I can totally understand not wanting to get into it! Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 19, 2016 |
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Jul 19, 2016 21:43
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It's no coincidence that Egypt is super good and that Kak skips it. Polnareff is a much better foil to Jotaro and a fun character tomread and watch. Egypt being good is in no small part to extra Polnareff. There's no where to go for Kakyoin's "is a weirdo and a bit of a loser" arc other than where it did. My boy and good friend DIO icing him was the best end he could have had and he got it. Thanks DIO for being you.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:48
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I wasn't actually that hot on either Polnareff or Joseph (old or young) to be honest. They were fine characters and I like the SDC ensemble a lot but Kakyoin was my favourite non-Jotaro crusader. Kakyoin's death was sad but it had weight to it and though it was depressing it worked well. It showed how powerful and disorienting DIO's Stand was for the crusaders to deal with, and Kakyoin also effectively won the day for them. Polnareff felt weird to me because it felt like he was repeatedly saved for no pay-off either emotionally or in the narrative. After the DIO episodes begin he basically does nothing apart from the eyepoke that doesn't really change events at all. DIO healed from it perfectly fine and Jotaro's plan worked just fine, arguably it was harder considering he had to stop his heart longer. Am I incorrectly remembering this sequence? He also got his vengeance for his sister quite a while beforehand so it felt like his character didn't carry that much weight later on particularly after Avdol's revival. It would have been too grim having only Jotaro survive perhaps but still.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:58
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Polnareff was the heart of the group and I'm glad he survived.
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Jul 19, 2016 21:59
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You only like him cos 100% he made the "see food" joke off screen at some point.
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Jul 19, 2016 22:01
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EmmyOk posted:I didn't mean instead of Kakyoin. Kakyoin dying was fine because he did something great as his final act and it ruled extremely hard. Joseph staying dead would have made a lot of sense too imo. Polnareff surviving felt weird to me because effectively three characters were sacrificed to save him and then he didn't even accomplish much against ZA WARLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. Polnareff attacking when he does essentially saves Jotaro's life, or at least makes his heart stop gambit pay off big time, so it's not nothing. I get your point though, both Polnareff's and Kakyoin's arcs are completed by the end of SDC, but Pol lives while Kak dies. I'm totally on board with the alternate reality where Pol sacrifices himself and Iggy lives on, but I like Iggy more than most I'd wager, so whatever. I gotta disagree on Joseph dying, him coming back from the grave to troll his grandson is amazing, and I'd be too sad if Holly lost both her awesome father and her high school boy toy.
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Jul 19, 2016 22:15
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Lizard Wizard posted:No no no, I mean JUST Jotaro punching DIO's skull. jeez, so demanding... https://my.mixtape.moe/xaswmm.webm
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Jul 19, 2016 22:16
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Did Dio's skull always have a heart on it, or is that something that happened after he fused with Jonathan?
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Jul 19, 2016 22:18
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3kuoJE6fPA
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Jul 19, 2016 22:18
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One thing the OVA actually did improve on over the manga was having Polnareff ambush DIO right after Jotaro did his heart trick. It didn't at all invalidate what Jotaro did and it made Polnareff contribute to the fight by buying a chance for Jotaro to deliver the blow to DIO's head, and if there was one non-racecar thing I wish the anime kept from the OVA it was that.
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Jul 19, 2016 22:19
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here's the same as a gif if anyone wants that
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Jul 19, 2016 22:21
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The proper version of this is legitimately as good as if not better than Zeppelli Roundabout
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Jul 19, 2016 22:27
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Jul 19, 2016 23:02
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lol e: Hugging the two hands just seems farcical to me
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Jul 19, 2016 23:03
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EmmyOk posted:lol That's all that was left of him.
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Jul 19, 2016 23:06
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How about you burn them in his honor
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Jul 19, 2016 23:21
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As someone who didn't read the manga beforehand, Avdol's death was pretty disarming. 
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Jul 19, 2016 23:22
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W.T. Fits posted:That's all that was left of him. Vanilla Ice ate those immediately afterwards.
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Jul 19, 2016 23:22
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's no coincidence that Egypt is super good and that Kak skips it. Kakyoin is really the odd man out of the crusaders because he's kind of defined by being this nothing character. It's even something of a reoccurring joke that nobody really knows who the guy is. Is Kakyoin the kind of guy who'd suplex a dude out of nowhere, or is this an impostor? Well, in that specific circumstance it was an impostor, but real Kakyoin might have suplexed the guy just the same. Is Kakyoin trustworthy when he says the baby is trying to get them killed, or is he crazy? Well, it turns out he isn't crazy, but because none of the other crusaders no what his deal is they don't trust him, regardless. By the time the audience learns what his deal is the series is just about over, and by that point it's mostly empty pathos.
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Jul 19, 2016 23:25
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Schwarzwald posted:Kakyoin is really the odd man out of the crusaders because he's kind of defined by being this nothing character. It's even something of a reoccurring joke that nobody really knows who the guy is. Is Kakyoin the kind of guy who'd suplex a dude out of nowhere, or is this an impostor? Well, in that specific circumstance it was an impostor, but real Kakyoin might have suplexed the guy just the same. Is Kakyoin trustworthy when he says the baby is trying to get them killed, or is he crazy? Well, it turns out he isn't crazy, but because none of the other crusaders no what his deal is they don't trust him, regardless. MODS!?
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Jul 19, 2016 23:27
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The worst thing about Part 3 is that the only people in the crew that really get any decent screen time and moments to themselves are the three people that survive at the end. It's hard to care about Avdol dying either time because he's barely been a thing in the story at all. Same from Cherry Boy, who gets Death 13 and nothing else really. Polneraff gets multiple fights just to himself to the point that he's kind of the protagonist for a lot of the middle parts of part 3. They're just kind of filler characters to the point I think it would have been way cooler to stick with that one idea where Hol Horse swaps on the bad guys and joins team Hero. He'd at least have more than 0 personality.
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Jul 19, 2016 23:49
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Jul 19, 2016 23:49
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The worst thing about Part 3 is that the only people in the crew that really get any decent screen time and moments to themselves are the three people that survive at the end. It's hard to care about Avdol dying either time because he's barely been a thing in the story at all. Same from Cherry Boy, who gets Death 13 and nothing else really. Polneraff gets multiple fights just to himself to the point that he's kind of the protagonist for a lot of the middle parts of part 3. They're just kind of filler characters to the point I think it would have been way cooler to stick with that one idea where Hol Horse swaps on the bad guys and joins team Hero. He'd at least have more than 0 personality. tower of gray too
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Jul 19, 2016 23:50
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He's also the reason Polneraff ddidn't get killed by Hol Horse and J. Geil and is also the one to thwart J. Geil's plan to use the beggars to kill Poleraff. He doesn't get many one-on-one fights but it's not like he did nothing.
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Jul 20, 2016 00:26
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I like what I like
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Jul 20, 2016 00:35
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The reason Jotaro, Joseph, and Polnareff feel the most developed is because they're the three characters that stick the most with the series. Avdol is "killed off" for half of it, Kak is benched for half, and Iggy doesn't show up until half-way through. I don't think it's really a matter of getting fights either, because Joseph only has two fights where he's the protagonist, but he's almost always around and contributes all the time, be it through being a Speedwagon or with trying to help turn the battle around.
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Jul 20, 2016 00:37
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Kakyoin also helps when Polnareff drove their jeep off a cliff to their death so I Stand With Kak
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Jul 20, 2016 00:41
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Just to clarify, I'm not arguing that Kakyoin doesn't do anything, just that no one knows anything about him.
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Jul 20, 2016 00:51
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I, the viewer, know that he is a good, strong boy with great character who is cool. I cared deeply about Good Boy Noriaki Kakyoin.
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Jul 20, 2016 01:00
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I felt bad for Kak, always being doubted by the group.
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Jul 20, 2016 01:01
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The objectively best Crusader is Iggy. The smartest, most powerful and bravest of them all. Godspeed, poo poo Dog.
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Jul 20, 2016 01:03
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Kakyoin always tried his best and that's all I need to know
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Jul 20, 2016 01:11
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following right now
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