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a lot of the stuff the FIA bans, like active aero and increased ground effects, are just banned because they aren't competent enough to regulate it. left unregulated those are technologies that can make cars impossible for humans to drive.
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wicka posted:a lot of the stuff the FIA bans, like active aero and increased ground effects, are just banned because they aren't competent enough to regulate it. left unregulated those are technologies that can make cars impossible for humans to drive. Isn't active aero more of a safety thing though? I'm a NOT saying the FIA is competent however.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Isn't active aero more of a safety thing though? I'm a NOT saying the FIA is competent however. I'd say its a three way between safety, cost and equalization with safety taking the larger share. I don't think you can really separate them since the FIA has been trying to build the formula to a specific pace for a couple of decades now and they've shown themselves to colossally underestimate aero performance when given the opportunity.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Isn't active aero more of a safety thing though? I'm a NOT saying the FIA is competent however. without active aero you have to strike a balance between putting downforce on for maximum cornering speed vs taking it off for top speed down the straights. with active aero you don't have to make that choice. yada yada yada, now drivers are pulling 8 Gs in the corners and blacking out.
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Given the whole double diffuser thing I think it would be perfectly understandable if the FIA just said "active aero is a Pandora's box we just don't want to open even if it looks safe and cost effective on paper."
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Jul 19, 2016 22:50
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BBC has an article on the Best Driver http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/36805573quote:"I am very happy about it. It gives me pleasure to see disappointed people."
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quote:If you take only the races in which a comparison in qualifying was fair (ie, eliminating any at which either had a problem), it was 12-1 to Alonso at an average of 0.548secs. 
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Jul 19, 2016 23:45
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Anyone looking for a new avatar?
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Jul 20, 2016 00:23
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Bert and Ernie literally have more hair than Lewis
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GramCracker posted:Bert and Ernie literally have more hair than Lewis And half as gay
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Dear Leader monisha kaltenborn has saved sauber: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sauber-f1-team-announces-change-of-ownership-800401/ but at the cost of peter sauber  which he's probably thrilled about but is nonetheless bittersweet
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Jul 20, 2016 14:01
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Lewis is also a bit of a muppet.
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Jul 20, 2016 14:03
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Now we just need Force India to get their poo poo together and we'll actually have 10 well run teams and Ferrari
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Jul 20, 2016 14:44
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Tsaedje posted:Now we just need Force India to get their poo poo together and we'll actually have 10 well run teams and Ferrari lol Looking good and being a royal gently caress up. FERARRI
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quote:and Kaltenborn will remain on as team principal and CEO. The worst part about this. She's ruined the reputation of the team and I wouldn't want to deal with her.
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Riso posted:The worst part about this. She's ruined the reputation of the team and I wouldn't want to deal with her. fun fact: she actually hasn't
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wicka posted:without active aero you have to strike a balance between putting downforce on for maximum cornering speed vs taking it off for top speed down the straights. with active aero you don't have to make that choice. yada yada yada, now drivers are pulling 8 Gs in the corners and blacking out. I was thinking more in terms of failure of the active parts creating a hazard.
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Jul 20, 2016 15:36
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Monisha sucks bring back Peter
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If you want to hire six drivers for two seats at the same time and don't mind the legal threat of confiscation, I can recommend Monisha Kaltenborn.
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There'd be no more Sauber if it wasn't for Bernie saving their asses, Monisha is a moron.
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monisha-related outrage is entirely limited to the internet, zero people of any importance care
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Formula E is testing an insanely ugly "futuristic" front wing which is "being introduced for aesthetic reasons, not aerodynamic gain". Sham series.
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wicka posted:but at the cost of peter sauber I dont think hes wanted to be a big part of the team since like 2008. He was trying to retire when BMW pulled out and was forced to buy back into the team.
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Peter Sauber has been the dead weight in that team, good riddance. You could blame Monisha for a lot of shenanigans but I think she had to resort to doing that poo poo because of Peter's refusal to put a single dime into that team.
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Ross Brawn said no To be fair I wouldn't want to work with Marchionne either.
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sauber was trying to retire when he sold the team to BMW
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learnincurve posted:Ross Brawn said no I wouldn't want to work with Ferrari during any Italian-run period. The toxic politics and blame culture makes Game of Thrones look easy.
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Riso posted:If you want to hire six drivers for two seats at the same time and don't mind the legal threat of confiscation, I can recommend Monisha Kaltenborn. I'm crying my eyes out thinking about this grave injustice to the 4 very bad drivers who had no business being in F1 anyway Can you imagine what a different world this would be if Van der Garde drove for Sauber instead of Ericsson? There would probably be a different tiny logo somewhere on the car poty fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Jul 20, 2016 18:55
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learnincurve posted:Ross Brawn said no Come to McLaren Ross!!! And bring Lewis!!!!!
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Lewis should go to Ferrari.
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Brawn said that while there is plenty of talent in the team, there isn't enough in the car for him to come out of retirement
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Dubs posted:Brawn said that while there is plenty of talent in the team, there isn't enough in the car for him to come out of retirement Sad but true.
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alonso leaving ferrari is starting to a feel a lot like hamilton leaving mclaren. seems like a bizarre decision at first until you watch the team implode behind him.
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did you just say ferrari is betta than mlcaren u cun
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It's better run into the ground, yes. Lots of rumours James Allison will jump ship to go back to England. Probably returning to Enstone/Renault.
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wicka posted:alonso leaving ferrari is starting to a feel a lot like hamilton leaving mclaren. seems like a bizarre decision at first until you watch the team implode behind him. I mean isn't this poo poo exactly why Alonso left in the first place? The whole team was infighting, forcing people to fall on the sword and playing the blame game while he was carrying them and then they bitched and moaned that Alonso was getting more credit than the team. Prost said it best, that team is never going to win unless it calms down and works together.
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1500quidporsche posted:I mean isn't this poo poo exactly why Alonso left in the first place? The whole team was infighting, forcing people to fall on the sword and playing the blame game while he was carrying them and then they bitched and moaned that Alonso was getting more credit than the team. Prost said it best, that team is never going to win unless it calms down and works together. yes but, as with mclaren/mercedes back in 2012, people tend to ignore all of that in favor of screaming "BUT BUT BUT THEYVE GOT A SLOWER CAR"
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Ferrari are kind of hosed, they simply do not have a technical director who can compete with Lowe, Newey or even Pat Symonds The thing which is most of a clusterfuck out of the many strange and decisions they have made in the last few years is this one: When James Allison designed that fantastic Lotus, he did it in conjunction with a suspension designer who's name I forget, but I do know where he is now - Haas. Why in gods name would you allow the B team to have that guy and not yourself? Wait what are Ferrari having trouble with again? Oh.
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The problem are not the people at Ferrari by themselves. They're a hostile political charged environment that makes it impossible to work together. Kind of reminds me of Jaguar before RB bought it and sorted out the mess.
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