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blah_blah posted:I've played against Ryze twice and he feels really strong in lane and has crazy waveclear and damage, so I don't fully understand why his winrate is so awful. His scaling is pretty bad now compared to before though.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 10:48 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 21:42 |
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Mikujin posted:Likely just a lot of people unfamiliar with him playing him and tanking. Taliyah had the same issue on release: had like a 44% win rate that jumped up a full 10% within 7-10 days. Ryze should be inatley powerful, but in this case it's actually people just being bad at his combos.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 11:26 |
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Ryze lacks the level 6 powerspike, his new ult is also far harder to use properly and nearly impossible to use without a teamcomp for it and your team on mics to coordinate the thing.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 11:42 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Ryze lacks the level 6 powerspike, his new ult is also far harder to use properly and nearly impossible to use without a teamcomp for it and your team on mics to coordinate the thing.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 11:45 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Ryze lacks the level 6 powerspike, his new ult is also far harder to use properly and nearly impossible to use without a teamcomp for it and your team on mics to coordinate the thing. I only ever use his ult to cut off the other team trying to escape from fights by myself. It makes it real easy to use.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:00 |
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RealFoxy posted:But they shifted around his power without taking much away from it, and he's still a stupidly strong burst mage with targeted CC. He just doesn't have an ultimate to pop people with anymore, he can do it all the time. He's still a late game scaling champion (who always post lower win rates because many games are decided in the first 10 minutes) and additionally: - They took away his kill pressure at 6. - They took away his free 30% CDR. So he has to either build Morello and be less durable or Frozen Heart and be less damage dealing. Or neither and just cast ways less spells when he's entirely combo casting based. - They gave him an ultimate which requires solid coordination between your entire team (which might not ever happen) and in the early/mid game (where most solo queue games are decided) you might not even be able to get a single good one off if you are on the top lane island. I feel like he's going to be largely a competitive-only type champion which is not much different from where he was before. Almost all of his advantages are going to be hard to realize in solo queue format.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:10 |
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Is CDR even necessary now that he has a full reset mechanic?
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:14 |
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a medical mystery posted:Is CDR even necessary now that he has a full reset mechanic? Yeah if for nothing else his ultimate has a 2-minute cooldown that doesn't descend with rank so if you 20% Item / Plus 2x of 10% Boots, 10% Item, 10% Runes, 10% Blue Buff then... You can cut it down from 120 seconds to 72 seconds and it's up basically every time you can get back to a lane to warp people somewhere else. The other part of me is just super greedy for max CDR on every champion I can possibly put it on because you can just do more when you aren't limited by cooldowns and almost every champion in the game except for energy/rage guys (who are capped on resources and probably shouldn't max CDR) and certain ADCs has a pretty reasonable path to that.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 13:27 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A9wF83mvvw Sometimes you get truly beautiful plays. Cant believe i survived that 1 auto away from death
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 14:34 |
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I mean yeah, half the time you can barely trust the top laners with TP to use it properly, much less the Tahm Kench who only has one other person to take with them, people in solo queue are going to port their team around like idiots all the time. He's still got really insane burst and I was still popping people late game like the old ryze did.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 14:36 |
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RealFoxy posted:I mean yeah, half the time you can barely trust the top laners with TP to use it properly, much less the Tahm Kench who only has one other person to take with them, people in solo queue are going to port their team around like idiots all the time. He's still got really insane burst and I was still popping people late game like the old ryze did. At the bare minimum, he can combo his ult with Zhonyas to get a 100% unstoppable escape every 2 minutes. Give him a week or two for players to get used to actually thinking about combos now and exploiting that ult. E: It's absolutely criminal that riot hasn't made a Pool Party Pantheon where his ult radius becomes a giant pool he cannonballs. Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jul 18, 2016 |
# ? Jul 18, 2016 14:38 |
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People just don't know how to play Ryze yet, he's broken as gently caress.
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 14:49 |
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Anyone figure out how the mastery system is applying to Nexus Siege? Got 20k tower damage as Tristana, 9 ballista/shield kills, A rank. No big deal since it's not too hard to get S in the other modes, just wondering how heavily it factors in deaths (went 11/10/5) when those really aren't a huge deal in Siege. Of course it could just be that the average Trist on siege does so well that 20k tower damage is the normal amount
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 15:22 |
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Neurolimal posted:Anyone figure out how the mastery system is applying to Nexus Siege?
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# ? Jul 18, 2016 19:41 |
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blah_blah posted:I've played against Ryze twice and he feels really strong in lane and has crazy waveclear and damage, so I don't fully understand why his winrate is so awful. motherfuckers is using the ult like bronze retards
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 03:52 |
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How Rude posted:no, the complaint was that Sona would hit her 4 buttons and then just sit there and look pretty doing nothing. It's mostly the combination of Sona being able to spam her W, plus the fact that she can steroid the gently caress out of her healing by building Athene's and Ardent Censer. Those two items and her level 11 CDR give her Soraka levels of bullshit healing, but she's spreading it to her entire team in a teamfight. And if she gets caught out, her E is basically a get out of jail free card. Her E feels really great, but it's honestly the strong healing itemization that's making her overpowered right now. Riot's gonna slash her numbers for a few patches, Soraka will be a super high win rate champion for a while, and then riot will nerf Forbidden Idol and Sona will probably drop to like 45 or 46 percent win rate for a while
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 05:41 |
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i blind picked ryze into orianna last night and it made me sad im guessing the answer to any bruiser mage vs poke mage matchup though is either 1) let them push and call for ganks, or 2) run at them more
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 05:56 |
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Coca Koala posted:It's mostly the combination of Sona being able to spam her W, plus the fact that she can steroid the gently caress out of her healing by building Athene's and Ardent Censer. Those two items and her level 11 CDR give her Soraka levels of bullshit healing, but she's spreading it to her entire team in a teamfight. And if she gets caught out, her E is basically a get out of jail free card. Yeah I think that the itemization is part of the problem right now. Sona makes really good use of Athene's because she can basically fully charge with a single Q or power chord. Even if you go Mikael's instead of Athenes, the passive stack is decent. Then you tack on the fact that the CDR allows constant censer passive on multiple team members given enough mana.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 06:10 |
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Whoever changed sona should actually get fired.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 08:55 |
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Ignite Memories posted:Whoever changed sona should actually get fired. i dunno about that, there are more hands at work here. just because one guy made a loving stupid champion does not mean it is his/her fault necessarily. for example, if i were a designer at riot and i made a character who has an ult which copies spells used by other characters, and to avoid allowing for one guy to be strictly better than the opponent(as i believe this would be highly anti fun if your ability is done better by another guy) i add a rule which says "the power of this ability is tied to the opponent", it would be somebody elses job(quality control, the testers, whatever) to say "hey what the gently caress this guy can build pure tank and do ap carry levels of dps" what i am saying is for a champion to be broken on release it takes an entire team which is supposed to have multiple nets to catch things like this to all drop the ball simultaneously.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 16:13 |
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"multiple nets to catch things like this to all drop the ball simultaneously" is a really good description of what goes on at riot most of the time tbh
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 16:23 |
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She had a 52% winrate, and got a humongous buff. Why don't they try buffing the champions with a lower than 50% win rate?
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 16:28 |
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Ignite Memories posted:She had a 52% winrate, and got a humongous buff. Why don't they try buffing the champions with a lower than 50% win rate? Sona has a lot of skins to sell.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 16:31 |
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here's what they did wrong this time that we need from sona in future reworks :
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 16:36 |
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maybe they should buff nunu
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 16:52 |
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Lovechop posted:
would buy e: no better yet you type a random string of characters in the fountain at the start of the game which comprises the tone row for everything she plays for the whole game. Sexpansion fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jul 19, 2016 |
# ? Jul 19, 2016 17:03 |
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Tired Moritz posted:maybe they should buff nunu *begins to grin in an extremely sinister way while i think of the rivers of tears my top nunu has created over the years* yes... buff nunu.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 18:16 |
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they already buffed nunu, its called new ryze
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 18:19 |
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ryze should just ride willump around
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 19:07 |
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Looks like they hotfixed in the Sona W and E nerfs.
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# ? Jul 19, 2016 21:24 |
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kirtar posted:Looks like they hotfixed in the Sona W and E nerfs. She's still pretty strong.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:24 |
Buff my rear end bitch!
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 05:21 |
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pretty glad phantoml0rd got banned, hopefully it sticks. he always struck me a huge whiner and it doesnt surprise me he was abusing gambling to extort money from kids/idiots. why does someone with his numbers even need to do fake subs, twitch wouldn't have banned him for the gambling stuff
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 12:40 |
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Relin posted:pretty glad phantoml0rd got banned, hopefully it sticks. he always struck me a huge whiner and it doesnt surprise me he was abusing gambling to extort money from kids/idiots. why does someone with his numbers even need to do fake subs, twitch wouldn't have banned him for the gambling stuff i can't believe how insane that whole story is man. the thing about his gf (who was complicit in all the poo poo going on) starting a patreon that said 'any extra money you throw in really goes a long way' while they were scamming people for millions of dollars and driving german sports cars genuinely made me feel sick.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 13:02 |
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Alright, I'll bite, whats the jist of the story and the patreon thing with phantomlord? short google search showed skin gambling in csgo which I didn't know was a thing until now.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 13:30 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Alright, I'll bite, whats the jist of the story and the patreon thing with phantomlord? short google search showed skin gambling in csgo which I didn't know was a thing until now.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 13:45 |
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https://vatic.eu/csgo/the-phantom-shuffle/ thousands of chat logs released by a hacker who had access to a skype account that chatted with PL. PL (and the skype owner) was an owner of csgo shuffle, hid it, used it to gamble. got site dev (skype owner) to modulate his win % during streams to create hype, for his girlfriend streamer as well. bots subbed to pl on a regular basis, probably reason for his ban. gf not banned, obviously points to illegal gambling scheme not being reason for ban
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 13:48 |
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If you're going to do illegal stuff on the internet and you're using Skype, you're going to have a bad time. I'm still baffled as to why anyone uses Skype recreationally. It's one of the worst voice programs in existence and it's the most easily compromised by far. I really only know PhantomLord as a guy who would quietly talk on stream for like 10 minutes and then he would get ganked or something and he would yell "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT HAHAHAA ARE YOU KIDDDDDDING MEEEEE" at maximum volume with his microphone down his throat. So he was pretty intolerable and I don't know that I had really thought about him or his stream in like 3 years. Probably why he has gone to some kind of gambling ring trickery to make his living.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 14:07 |
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http://plays.tv/video/578fb7c18901175b72/win-every-lane-lose-every-game Full arpen and offense masteries with a longsword on olaf is pretty fun. I've gotten FB every single time I've played it.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 18:49 |
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Libertine posted:If you're going to do illegal stuff on the internet and you're using Skype, you're going to have a bad time. I'm still baffled as to why anyone uses Skype recreationally. It's one of the worst voice programs in existence and it's the most easily compromised by far. Yes, you no longer watching his stream led him down a dark path to fill the void that is approval. Actually, yeah that could be it. But he was a scummy dude even back then. I remember he had cops called on him while on stream.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 18:51 |