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UberJew posted:you can only really combat racism by inoculating the young and hoping the next generation is less racist Very bold assertion there
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Jul 20, 2016 20:14
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Or if I'm gonna stop being a duck about it. Social marginalization doesn't work if people can find their own community of like-minded dipshits to inoculate them against feeling ostracized.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:14
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i mean the key problem is that any coherent opposition to the current system would need to involve some actual, gasp, horror, marxism and that is absolutely not allowed to be discussed as a serious element of politics fascism is and always has been a-ok though, so you get the incoherent opposition of le pen and trump instead
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Jul 20, 2016 20:15
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Very bold assertion there well you can combat it with fists and boots as well but that's part of the process of keeping their racism from going to the polls, it doesn't reduce the number of racists
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Jul 20, 2016 20:16
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https://twitter.com/mcpnews/status/755843501644886016 uh-oh
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Jul 20, 2016 20:17
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UberJew posted:because the global financial crisis demonstrated that globalization hadn't done a drat thing to protect anybody against the inevitable disasters of the business cycle so are you advocating some form of marxism wherein one simply ignores the majority working class or what
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Jul 20, 2016 20:17
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wealth can buy an astonishing degree of separation from the rest of the world nowadays, that's probably not helping anything.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:17
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V. Illych L. posted:so are you advocating some form of marxism wherein one simply ignores the majority working class or what the working class is majority minority in the US
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Jul 20, 2016 20:18
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V. Illych L. posted:so are you advocating some form of marxism wherein one simply ignores the majority working class or what i'm not advocating for anything like everyone else i don't have a solution
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Jul 20, 2016 20:18
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which is why the emphasis on white working class rubs me the wrong way tbh
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Jul 20, 2016 20:19
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paranoid randroid posted:the working class is majority minority in the US shhh, you're torpedoing his narrative here
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Jul 20, 2016 20:19
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paranoid randroid posted:the working class is majority minority in the US They probably prefer to be called middle class, though, and think of themselves as such as well.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:20
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V. Illych L. posted:so are you advocating some form of marxism wherein one simply ignores the majority working class or what white racists are not the revolutionary class
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Jul 20, 2016 20:20
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Aeryk posted:wealth can buy an astonishing degree of separation from the rest of the world nowadays, that's probably not helping anything. Do I hear a new reality TV show opportunity? "Class Swap"
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Jul 20, 2016 20:20
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paranoid randroid posted:which is why the emphasis on white working class rubs me the wrong way tbh as if most of the people wringing their hands about the (white) working class have ever cared about or identified with the experiences of its large nonwhite contingent
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Jul 20, 2016 20:20
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i have specific steps that would help, for example being an american imo the biggest disaster in need of a complete overhaul is the racist prison-industrial complex that exists to suppress the (as randroid mentioned) working class made up largely of people of color, but no i don't have a solution
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Jul 20, 2016 20:21
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little in the middle class but baby got proles
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Jul 20, 2016 20:21
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:narrative idk why, but it seems like dnd has gotten a lot of use out of this word recently
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Jul 20, 2016 20:22
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oh my god becky look at her dialectic. she must be one of those marxists girlfriends
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Jul 20, 2016 20:22
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UberJew posted:well you can combat it with fists and boots as well but that's part of the process of keeping their racism from going to the polls, it doesn't reduce the number of racists See I don't want to sound like a Democrat here but I do think some level of experience and education influences the level of people's racism. Like, sensitivity training is a thing that (while very problematic) has opened some rear end in a top hat's eyes. I haven't done much research on it though
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Jul 20, 2016 20:22
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Lotka Volterra posted:idk why, but it seems like dnd has gotten a lot of use out of this word recently optics
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Jul 20, 2016 20:23
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Kristov posted:Or if I'm gonna stop being a duck about it. Social marginalization doesn't work if people can find their own community of like-minded dipshits to inoculate them against feeling ostracized. These used to be called "suburbs" or "rural communities". Now it's called "4chan" and "
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Jul 20, 2016 20:23
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Kristov posted:Do I hear a new reality TV show opportunity? class to class
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Jul 20, 2016 20:23
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Lotka Volterra posted:idk why, but it seems like dnd has gotten a lot of use out of this word recently Lots of journalism majors having recently graduated and using the gap between graduation and employment to post on here.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:23
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paranoid randroid posted:the working class is majority minority in the US i've seen some article at some point that puts this number at about 40% minority, which is a lot but not an outright majority unless one includes women as a minority which would be extremely iffy at least this is true for some definitions of working class regardless, even if it's true you can't really claim to be empowering the working class as such if you're empowering 50-60% of it at the expense of the rest of it, so the problem of the reactionary tendencies of the white working class has to be confronted somehow if one is to move ahead with any form of coherent politics rooted in a class analysis mind you, this cuts both ways - one cannot move ahead with such politics without also dealing with the issues that are important to those other at least 40% of the group, i.e. various minority groups this, of course, is not mentioning the drastically different demographics in many western countries
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Jul 20, 2016 20:23
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Suddenly your ape hate makes sense.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:24
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:See I don't want to sound like a Democrat here but I do think some level of experience and education influences the level of people's racism. Like, sensitivity training is a thing that (while very problematic) has opened some rear end in a top hat's eyes. how is sensitivity training a bad thing?
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Jul 20, 2016 20:25
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:See I don't want to sound like a Democrat here but I do think some level of experience and education influences the level of people's racism. Like, sensitivity training is a thing that (while very problematic) has opened some rear end in a top hat's eyes. That's teaching them that their racism is unacceptable in polite company and that they shouldn't express it in public.  if you think that's going to impact their racially motivated political beliefs or stop them from reverting to form when they're in what they perceive as a 'safe space' for their racismit is a positive though! stopping racists from espousing their views and harming people is a good thing
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Jul 20, 2016 20:25
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man is the only animal capable of embarrassment and gaming, but not both
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one historic way of doing this, of course, is trying to build a non-ethnic class identity like they did in britain or the soviet union, but that obviously carries with it a host of its own problems, especially when central building blocs of those identities disintegrate or when unspoken assumptions like "wait black people aren't actually people are they" sneak in, re: my previous posts about ideological discipline
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Jul 20, 2016 20:26
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Put 'Em on the Class, the lesser known follow up to Baby Got Proles
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Jul 20, 2016 20:27
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Randler posted:Lots of journalism majors having recently graduated and using the gap between graduation and employment to post on here. ugh paranoid randroid posted:optics ughhhhhhh
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Jul 20, 2016 20:27
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Forced desegregation.
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Jul 20, 2016 20:29
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also one obvious post-modern critique of the "non-ethnic" class identity would be that such an identity would carry carry certain implicit ethnicities within itself, and that these must be challenged constantly, which would render the entire project self-defeating a salient example of this: soviet russia
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also id argue that actual (positive) experience is probably better than education, as education does little to humanize minority groups
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Jul 20, 2016 20:30
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Hire out of work minorities to follow around selected white people and snidely critique their behavior.
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Lotka Volterra posted:ugh winning the news cycle
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