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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CLAM DOWN posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/crime-rate-increase-statistics-canada-severity-index-police-1.3686871


I mean obviously Alberta is poo poo, but I'm just tickled that Abbotsford is in this category too lmao what an awful suburb

Calgary has so much crime because we have no police presence. People can rip off stores with impunity because the police will never show up and do anything about it -- I've seen it several times. Shoplifters will just tell the staff to go get hosed and walk out the door, and nothing will ever get done about it.

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Clearly everyone needs to ride the AgTrain to moneytown

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

CLAM DOWN posted:

We should form Cascadia imo

Vancouver-Seattle-Portland conglomerated megacities with a high speed rail backbone would be pretty dope in a cyberpunk kinda way.

“The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.”

The Butcher fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 20, 2016

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
So... blue then?

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

infernal machines posted:

So... blue then?

With "NO SIGNAL" written in one corner.

Lol guess that line doesn't really hold up these days. Guess that goes for pretty much all of Neuromancer really.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

MA-Horus posted:

If there's one thing an ethnic han can give advice on, it's methods of adequate food production.

I dunno, there's something appealing about the Han Dynasty approach. Farming was encouraged by light taxation. Job creators Greed-driven parasites Merchants and traders however were heavily taxed and controlled. Government used the "Balanced Standard" to buy and stockpile grain during good seasons and sell it off during lean times, stabilizing farm prices and protecting consumers from speculators.

That, and mutilating the occasional 1%er and leaving her in the dung heap to augment pig production.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

The Butcher posted:

With "NO SIGNAL" written in one corner.

Lol guess that line doesn't really hold up these days. Guess that goes for pretty much all of Neuromancer really.

William Gibson said quite a few years ago that all of his original cyberpunk novels envisioned a future that was hilariously off the mark and he's actually kinda embarrassed he wrote them.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Don't worry guys we are investing in bacon

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/maple-leaf-consumer-foods-federal-government-provincial-bacon-1.3684490

quote:

If you love bacon, get ready to pig out — the federal and Manitoba governments are investing $500,000 into Maple Leaf Consumer Foods, which will produce eight million additional kilograms of the meat per year at the company's Winnipeg plant.

Lawrence MacAulay and Ralph Eichler, agricultural ministers for the federal and provincial governments respectively, made the announcement on Monday.

"Well, let me say before we start, this is one of my favourite products. I just love my bacon," Eichler said from the Lagimodiere Boulevard plant before describing his commitment to making Manitoba the centre of food processing in Canada.

MacAulay followed Eichler's statements by saying part of the federal government's plan to support the agricultural sector is to be a leader in job creation and innovation. The investment, he said, will create 34 full-time jobs and the same number of part-time jobs at the Winnipeg plant.

Those positions are in addition to the 3,300 people Maple Leaf Consumer Foods already employs in Manitoba.

"I am pleased to announce this strategic investment that will mean more top-quality Canadian bacon in grocery aisles in Canada and across the world," MacAulay said.

According to a press release issued by the province, the rest of the money will go toward processing and packaging equipment at the plant.

The money is one part of a total of $176 million both governments are investing in Manitoba under a five-year policy framework, the news release states.

The objective of that framework is to help producers and processors become innovative and competitive in world markets.

Canada is the world's third largest pork exporter with sales that total more than $3.5 billion in more than 100 countries around the globe

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

EvilJoven posted:

William Gibson said quite a few years ago that all of his original cyberpunk novels envisioned a future that was hilariously off the mark and he's actually kinda embarrassed he wrote them.

He shouldn't be. We're living in the corporatist cyberpunk dystopia he envisioned, the difference is only a matter of degree.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
Also, no simstim yet.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

we already knew Winnipeg was investing in bacon

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

EvilJoven posted:

William Gibson said quite a few years ago that all of his original cyberpunk novels envisioned a future that was hilariously off the mark and he's actually kinda embarrassed he wrote them.

Link

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Helsing posted:

What I find remarkable about Canada right now isn't the dysfunction of our various levels of government or the moribund economy, because those conditions are shared by the entire first world. What I find a bit surprising, in spite of myself, is the persistent smug complacency that permeates polite Canadian society. You at least have a sense that Americans or Brits are conscious of the dangerous and unstable time we live in. They might not be reacting in a very inspiring manner but there's a real sense in other countries that something important is at stake. Canada feels like the one country still entirely living in the End of History mindset that most of the rest of the world woke up from eight or nine years ago.

Most of Canada's visible problems are regional, and while various parts of the country teeter on financial oblivion there hasn't yet been any impact on Canadian quality of life. The slow retreat of social welfare institutions has been gradual enough that I think most people my age and younger are just used to them. My grade school experience was one where our teachers were constantly rationing supplies -- not that we were deprived in any real way, just that there was a sense that there was less and less materials, craft supply, whatever available each year.

As our previous election proved there's no serious political challenge to the establishment across three parties. The consequences of our economic decisions on a consumer and societal level haven't really started to impact people in a serious way unlike other countries. The country is relatively quiet, safe, and unaffected by the violence that's sprung up in different parts of the world. Consumer goods and creature comforts are widely available to most Canadians. Unless you dig in and look at the underlying problems running through Canadian society why would you be anything but complacent?

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Lovely that Winnipeg gets the support and the Brandon plant for all appearances remains bumped down to being active 4 days per week.

Pixelante
Mar 16, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.

infernal machines posted:

He shouldn't be. We're living in the corporatist cyberpunk dystopia he envisioned, the difference is only a matter of degree.

He also coined a lot of the phrases we use, I think. He's super active on Twitter these days. He's not terribly fond of Trump.

https://twitter.com/GreatDismal

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Best I can do is the Slashdot discussion linking to what I think is the article but the actual interview and article is from a news site that apparently went under or got bought out?

https://slashdot.org/story/07/08/06/1848220/william-gibson-gives-up-on-the-future

Edit: found the full article here and guess it isn't the one I was thinking of. http://www.williamgibsonboard.com/topic/4393793104629273

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jul 21, 2016

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002




Literal government pork to a company named Maple Leaf. It could easily be an Onion article.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

EvilJoven posted:

Best I can do is the Slashdot discussion linking to what I think is the article but the actual interview and article is from a news site that apparently went under or got bought out?

https://slashdot.org/story/07/08/06/1848220/william-gibson-gives-up-on-the-future

Edit: found the full article here and guess it isn't the one I was thinking of. http://www.williamgibsonboard.com/topic/4393793104629273

Thanks. I love William Gibson.

Majuju
Dec 30, 2006

I had a beer with Stephen Miller once and now I like him.
His introduction from the 20th Anniversary Edition is excellent if you haven't read it.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
He's a good writer but I don't get why he would choose his pen name after that terrible movie Hackers wtf

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

TheKingofSprings posted:

Lovely that Winnipeg gets the support and the Brandon plant for all appearances remains bumped down to being active 4 days per week.

Brandon clearly has a labour shortage where as Winnipeg has a new labour base waiting to be exploited.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Majuju posted:

His introduction from the 20th Anniversary Edition is excellent if you haven't read it.

I'd never seen that, it's great.

He's an excellent writer. I'm glad we could all temporarily pull CanPol together and even get CI out of the CI gimmick for a moment to reminisce on cheesy but poetic sci-fi crap.

Gibson posted:

It took at least a decade for me to realize that many of my readers, even in 1984, could never have experienced Neuromancer’s opening line as I’d intended them to. I’d actually composed that first image with the black-and-white video-static of my childhood in mind, sodium-silvery and almost painful—a whopping anachronism, right at the very start of my career in the imaginary future.

But an invisible one, interestingly; one that reveals a peculiar grace enjoyed by all imaginary futures as they make their way up the timeline and into the real future, where we all must go. The reader never stopped to think that I might have been thinking, however unconsciously, of the texture and color of a signal-free channel on a wooden-cabinet Motorola with fabric-covered speakers. Readers compensated for me, shouldering an additional share of the imaginative burden, and allowed whatever they assumed was the color of static to take on the melancholy of the phrase “dead channel”.

Health Services
Feb 27, 2009
So Donald Trump said "I would pull out of NAFTA in a split second".

I really, really hope that our government has better contingency plans than the British government did.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
The funny thing is with the way this year has been going by the time America votes in November he may very well actually become President.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

EvilJoven posted:

The funny thing is with the way this year has been going by the time America votes in November he may very well actually become President.

I warned both you guys and the Americans months ago :colbert:



I've got a decent rationale that I don't have the time or fucks to type now, but I can sum it up with "the yanks have lost their loving minds".

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Health Services posted:

So Donald Trump said "I would pull out of NAFTA in a split second".

I really, really hope that our government has better contingency plans than the British government did.

You realize this isn't a bad thing for us, right?

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Dreylad posted:

Most of Canada's visible problems are regional, and while various parts of the country teeter on financial oblivion there hasn't yet been any impact on Canadian quality of life. The slow retreat of social welfare institutions has been gradual enough that I think most people my age and younger are just used to them. My grade school experience was one where our teachers were constantly rationing supplies -- not that we were deprived in any real way, just that there was a sense that there was less and less materials, craft supply, whatever available each year.

As our previous election proved there's no serious political challenge to the establishment across three parties. The consequences of our economic decisions on a consumer and societal level haven't really started to impact people in a serious way unlike other countries. The country is relatively quiet, safe, and unaffected by the violence that's sprung up in different parts of the world. Consumer goods and creature comforts are widely available to most Canadians. Unless you dig in and look at the underlying problems running through Canadian society why would you be anything but complacent?

We're all boiled frogs. With my parents in particular, if they went to sleep 20 years ago and woke up today, they'd be shocked at how much has gone downhill for them. Meanwhile I graduated into the '08 crash and was conditioned to not expect any semblance of a career any time soon.

Looking forward to when the Left starts throwing molotovs, though. Everything else is a waste of time. Until then, gently caress You, I'll Get Mine Eventually, Maybe

Fluffy Chainsaw
Jul 6, 2016

I'm likely a pissant middle manager who pisses off IT with worthless requests. There is no content within my posts other than a garbage act akin to a know-it-all, which likely is how I behave in real life. It's really hard for me to comprehend how much I am hated by everyone.

Drunk Canuck posted:

You realize this isn't a bad thing for us, right?

What exactly do you envision happening if the United States pulls out of NAFTA?

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Oh no problem. The plus side is sjws can feel like they've achieved something by cutting Canada off from the scourge of ~globalization~

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

the trump tutelage posted:

We're all boiled frogs. With my parents in particular, if they went to sleep 20 years ago and woke up today, they'd be shocked at how much has gone downhill for them. Meanwhile, I graduated into the '08 crash and was conditioned not toexpect any semblance of a career any time soon.

Looking forward to when the Left starts throwing molotovs, though. Everything else is a waste of time. Until then, gently caress You, I'll Get Mine Eventually, Maybe

My parents are the kind who worked 20+ years for the same union and will now say that unions can kiss their asses but at the same time disagree with employers keeping their kids on contract after contract of work. Just last night, my step-mother who believes that a country should be run "the way a single mom runs a household" was bemoaning the amount of homeless and addicted in Oshawa. It's complete cognitive dissonance for Canadian boomers. You can't have people with mental illness and addictions simultaneously taken care of and believe everything the Toronto Sun tells you about how society is going down the tubes because of ~*muh taxes*~

Guy DeBorgore
Apr 6, 1994

Catnip is the opiate of the masses
Soiled Meat

Fluffy Chainsaw posted:

What exactly do you envision happening if the United States pulls out of NAFTA?

Large auto companies falling all over themselves to set up factories w/ thousands of high-paying jobs here; canadians learn to live and work together and consume withinin their means in defiance of global capitalist norms; leafs immeidately win the stanley cup

Health Services
Feb 27, 2009

Drunk Canuck posted:

You realize this isn't a bad thing for us, right?

If Trump is elected and dissolves NAFTA, there would be huge economic repercussions which the government should prepare for. While I'm not sure what I think of NAFTA overall, if the government doesn't plan out a potential response the consequences could be catastrophic for Canada. What's going to happen to all the cross-border trade?

As well, the potential end of NATO is really significant. How is the government going to enforce our interests and sovereignty in the North if America declines to uphold its obligations?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Health Services posted:

If Trump is elected and dissolves NAFTA, there would be huge economic repercussions which the government should prepare for. While I'm not sure what I think of NAFTA overall, if the government doesn't plan out a potential response the consequences could be catastrophic for Canada. What's going to happen to all the cross-border trade?

As well, the potential end of NATO is really significant. How is the government going to enforce our interests and sovereignty in the North if America declines to uphold its obligations?

F-35s!

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I imagine that some day Canadians will realize that the POTUS doesn't make or ratify treaties.

That day isn't today though.

Health Services
Feb 27, 2009

ocrumsprug posted:

I imagine that some day Canadians will realize that the POTUS doesn't make or ratify treaties.

That day isn't today though.

If Trump and the executive arm of the American government decline to uphold treaty obligations and Congress declines to hold the executive to account, what's the difference?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Lmfao if you believe a word that comes out of his mouth

Tochiazuma
Feb 16, 2007

THC posted:

Lmfao if you believe a word that comes out of his mouth

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




THC posted:

Lmfao if you believe a word that comes out of his mouth

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

THC posted:

Lmfao if you believe a word that comes out of his mouth

Wait, does that mean he's actually not that bad?

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Ikantski posted:

Wait, does that mean he's actually not that bad?

It means "who the gently caress knows what he's going to do."

At this point he's slightly less predictable than Kim Jong-Un.

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