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steinrokkan posted:Season 4 finale: "Good job stopping the radioactive winds with the artefact we introduced in the previous episode! Too bad a black hole opened up on the Moon yesterday!" Astroman posted:Something something Under the Dome something:
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Batham posted:It also doesn't help that Octavia gets her rear end kicked almost every fight she gets in. And it's usually not a even a close call, she loses by a landslide. The show has this problem with all its badass fighters. I would've preferred it if Octavia had fought alongside Pike until the end, and had been the one to save him rather than the opposite only to execute him when the fight was over.
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On other hand, pike deserved it.
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Lasagna Pilot posted:Yea I like the plot arcs they have chosen so far but season 3 feels like the end of the original outline, hard to go bigger than what they have done unless they are really gonna unleash the gimmicks like time fuckery or space travel fuckery. They already did space travel fuckery, that's how they got here in the first place  hollylolly posted:If by 'original story' you mean the books, the show has had nothing to do with the books aside from the very basic introductory premise. The show and the book were being written at the same time, IIRC, and went their separate ways from the start. Which one is better for it? Batham posted:It also doesn't help that Octavia gets her rear end kicked almost every fight she gets in. And it's usually not a even a close call, she loses by a landslide. Well, it has been less than a year in show time, right? Despite all of Clarke's genocides in that short time, they're still largely teenagers wearing grown-up clothes. raditts fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 23, 2016 |
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As a side note, is Indra dead? I remember her name mentioned in passing during the finale but I'm too lazy to rewind and find the exact spot. It was also super odd to see Jaha joining the fray at the end. Wasn't he shot at the end of part 1? I get that he feels no pain, but he should have lost enough blood to not be in any fighting condition.
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enraged_camel posted:As a side note, is Indra dead? I remember her name mentioned in passing during the finale but I'm too lazy to rewind and find the exact spot. I believe last we heard about her she was on a cross, they were still trying to get her to take the chip. Presumably she was saved.
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enraged_camel posted:As a side note, is Indra dead? I remember her name mentioned in passing during the finale but I'm too lazy to rewind and find the exact spot. They probably bandaged him up so he wouldn't die. Or, who knows.  raditts posted:Which one is better for it? I haven't read the books but I hear they're not as good as the show.
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Octavia setting aside all the poo poo to forgive Pike and him becoming a part of the team would've been extremely dull, predictable and would've continues what I (and a lot of people) think was a failing story line into another season. Me thinking that that what was going to happen made her stabbing him through the heart that much more surprising and makes me more optimistic for next year. I think that they way they used Bellamy this year betrayed a lot of what people liked about the character and I was worried that they were going to make the same choice with Octavia but no, they still have a grip on the character. Would Jasper have worked better instead of Bellamy? I know he's not as an important a character as Bellamy but his motivation would've been a lot better than "fridged girlfriend".
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Oof, using Jasper that way would have been really hard to watch as a viewer. The development maybe would have been worth more than Bellamy's in the end, but I'm not sure if it really would make sense. I liked Jasper's plotline this season until they undercut it by having him stop doing the one thing he was good at.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:On other hand, pike deserved it. Yeah, I had a problem with her trying to kill him in a life-or-death situation but once it's over yeah waste that fucker
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It seems to ms that all of the grounder nations have been from North America. I wonder if next season if they will travel to other continents.
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Well its not exactly easy to make international travel on foot, which is the primary mode of transportation besides solar powered jeeps. There's probably all kinds of Japanese and Australian and African "grounders" but we'll almost certainly never see them. We might not ever see Californians or Texans either. 100 is on a basic Walking Dead map. Which is why I don't really know what they're going to do with this nuclear fallout storyline since I can't really think of a way to resolve it. Like, even if Clarke and Raven somehow manage to come up with a solution to stopping the meltdowns or something 90% of the world is still going to get it, right? Only thing I can figure is that they'll use the Ark has some kind of communications satellite? But then there's a whole language issue since people on the other side of the globe will just be speaking their own original language derived from their dead local language like the American grounders.
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zoux posted:Would Jasper have worked better instead of Bellamy? I know he's not as an important a character as Bellamy but his motivation would've been a lot better than "fridged girlfriend". It's been a slightly longer time, but Jasper's motivation for pretty much everything seems to be "fridged girlfriend."
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ShakeZula posted:It's been a slightly longer time, but Jasper's motivation for pretty much everything seems to be "fridged girlfriend." Well, my opinion is that "fridging" is when you intro someone whose sole purpose is to be killed to give motivation (like Bellamy's gf that we had never seen before) but when you kill a well developed character, which I think Maya was, it's not really fraught with the same problems that "fridging" connotes. I mean, yeah people use that as motivation, but that's going to happen in any story where people die. But also they'd done some work with Jasper to get him to the place he was, you buy his mind set. Whereas Bellamy's deal was an overnight switch flipped to get him in the narrative position he needed to be in to do what he did. I mean there are other reasons why Bellamy is a better fit as second in command to a military dictator than Jasper but in terms of motivation, I feel they didn't earn Bellamy's face turn and had to do a lot of damage to the character in service of what was a pretty lovely subplot, I think most of us will agree.
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STAC Goat posted:Well its not exactly easy to make international travel on foot, which is the primary mode of transportation besides solar powered jeeps. There's probably all kinds of Japanese and Australian and African "grounders" but we'll almost certainly never see them. We might not ever see Californians or Texans either. 100 is on a basic Walking Dead map. Short of a deux ex story element that gets introduced early next season (e.g. some sort of magic "killswitch" that remotely shuts down or otherwise prevent meltdowns), the only way they can protect themselves from the upcoming nuclear fallout (assuming it wasn't A LIE) is to take shelter in an underground bunker. And the only place nearby that has been built explicitly for that purpose, Mt. Weather, has been destroyed. They could make the first half of the season about somehow restoring/rebuilding Mt. Weather and also expanding it so as to fit as many people as possible in there. And of course there would be all kinds of tension/drama because Grounders and Sky People have never lived together before, especially not in such close proximity. The other possible route is that they try to devise a method to drastically increase people's tolerance to radiation, like the Rad-X pills in Fallout series.
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Nothing in the 100 world is easy. But people did ravel the world long before planes, trains and automobiles. How do we know that Allie 1 wasn't lying to convince Clark not to throw the switch. Her programing was to protect human life. While I have no real knowledge nuclear technology, one would think that after several hundred years without any maintenance all the nuclear power plants would have already had a meltdown.
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Narratively it would be even worse for ALIE to have been lying, since it would make that scene pointless and misleading.
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To be fair, they didn't actually have Krakens back in the day.
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enraged_camel posted:And of course there would be all kinds of tension/drama because Grounders and Sky People have never lived together before, especially not in such close proximity. They have, actually, but as slaves of Alie so they weren't given much choice in the matter. I highly suspect the 6 month deadline is purely to spur violence and unrest. Without impending doom we would expect everybody to peacefully rebuild society, and a show of political discourse and criminal courts is boring as gently caress. But suddenly nobody thinks they'll be around in 6 months so what's really so bad about murdering a few people that are being sticks in the mud?
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Commander and Chancellor are both dead at this point. The irradiated soil is ripe for some tyrannical shenanigans.
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joebuddah posted:Nothing in the 100 world is easy. But people did ravel the world long before planes, trains and automobiles. Sure, but the 100 have hardly had the motivation or time to build ships and engage in months' long sea ventures. I mean, given some effort, time, and materials I'm sure Raven would jerry rig a 747 but they've all been busy fighting wars. Plus, unmapped travel is kind of a scary thing in a world with nuclear fallout and mutated sea creatures. Not to mention the territorial tribes who tend to kill first and ask questions later. Jaha left with like 2 dozen people and was the only guy to make it to their destination. And he was just going up to New England.
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STAC Goat posted:Sure, but the 100 have hardly had the motivation or time to build ships and engage in months' long sea ventures. I mean, given some effort, time, and materials I'm sure Raven would jerry rig a 747 but they've all been busy fighting wars. Why would Raven bother to jerry rig a 747? Look at Arkadia, a bit of ducktake and a few screws here or there and she can make it space worthy again. Don't underestimate her.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I wonder if the need for sea travel will be a way to bring Luna back into the show next season. I'm fairy sure Octavia, Jasper and one or two others will be living with her next year.
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I just hope Indra/Kane happens. Indra would be so much better for Kane than Abby. Also I wonder if they're going to have to like put Jaha on trial. Of all chipped people, he seemed to be the one who acted most of his own free will. It never felt like ALIE was controlling him much even at the end.
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I just realized why Murphy is so great: he's basically the Gaius Baltar of this show. 
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Astroman posted:I just realized why Murphy is so great: he's basically the Gaius Baltar of this show. 
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Astroman posted:I just realized why Murphy is so great: he's basically the Gaius Baltar of this show. ... Gauis Baltar was the Starscream of BSG
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Astroman posted:I just realized why Murphy is so great: he's basically the Gaius Baltar of this show. Chancellor Murphy for s4 Commander Murphy for s5
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It's kind of crazy how long they've been talking about Luna in the show like she's gonna matter (since season 1!) only to have her really only play a part in a single episode that in the end was a total dead end. I'm sure they'll come back to her but so far she has been like the biggest red herring and it's pretty funny.
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Neba posted:It's kind of crazy how long they've been talking about Luna in the show like she's gonna matter (since season 1!) only to have her really only play a part in a single episode that in the end was a total dead end. I'm sure they'll come back to her but so far she has been like the biggest red herring and it's pretty funny. She is the absolute only source of nightblood in the entire universe now. If they ever want Becca's help, Luna will come back.
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The "night blood" came from those injections that Becca have herself, right? Wouldn't she have been able to confer the knowledge on how to make that solution via the flame? Then again I don't really know why the night blood is so important to Alie 2.0 not frying your brain it whatever.
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raditts posted:The "night blood" came from those injections that Becca have herself, right? Wouldn't she have been able to confer the knowledge on how to make that solution via the flame? Then again I don't really know why the night blood is so important to Alie 2.0 not frying your brain it whatever. Nanomachines, son.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:She is the absolute only source of nightblood in the entire universe now. If they ever want Becca's help, Luna will come back. I think they will need Becca's help to figure out how to prevent reactor meltdowns or at least calculate where the safe zones will be after they go critical. That could be the first half of the season: trying to convince Luna (again) to take the chip, and the second half can be about their mass-migration, Oregon Trail-style! Slow News Day fucked around with this message at 06:37 on May 30, 2016 |
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raditts posted:The "night blood" came from those injections that Becca have herself, right? Wouldn't she have been able to confer the knowledge on how to make that solution via the flame? Then again I don't really know why the night blood is so important to Alie 2.0 not frying your brain it whatever. Creating nightblood probably requires very specialised equipment.
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Or a sample of real nightblood from Luna that Raven reverse engineers to be the super solution Becca used to create nightblood. Now that Alie killed Lexa for good there are no casting restrictions with Clark taking the chip.
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A few weeks ago, I binged through the first 2 seasons on Netflix. I was impressed by how much the show improved after the first few episodes, and generally liked in. However, I really didn't like the Season 2 finale, to the point where it pretty much killed my interest in most parts of the show besides the Murphy and Jaha plot, for reasons that I don't want to get into. So I decided to wait until Season 3 ended up on Netflix and I could watch it without paying per episode, but then a few days ago I got impatient and started watching Season 3 on Amazon Instant. I just finished episode 4. There are some things that I like about the Season so far. Murphy is still awesome, I like Emori, and crazy messiah Jaha is still fun to watch. I don't like the direction that Jasper's character went in this season, but him getting drunk and fooling around with Finn's ashes was a nice bit of dark comedy. I really like the visual design of Polis. But the problems are obvious. Am I imagining things, or did this show really, in the space of 4 episodes: Introduce, set up as the Big Bad, and kill off the Ice Nation queen? Have the Arkers wary of even supply runs to Mount Weather, then deciding to turn it into a hospital, then moving Farm Station survivors into it, and finally having Mount Weather get blown to smithereens (this one in 3 episodes)? Have Clarke go from living alone in the woods, to a prisoner in Polis, to reuniting with her Mom in Polis, to becoming ambassador for Skaikru even though she hasn't spoken to any of them in three months? Introduce the Farm Station survivors and then have their leader become dictator of Skaikru. Oh, and have Bellamy decide that he wants to follow them in killing a bunch of allied grounders because...a completely different group of grounders killed his girlfriend? I had heard that Season 3 of this show had pacing issues, but there are some things that you have to see for yourself to believe. This is starting to remind me of the third season of Heroes. What happened to this show? It has had some significant writing missteps before ("Radioactive" during the PIlot, the Finn massacre arc), but for the most part the plotting and pacing was good to excellent throughout the first 2 seasons. Does this issue get better, at all, later in the season?
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