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DOOP posted:the pursuer sucks and is the main reason why the lost bastille sucks  Having the Pursuer show up again as a miniboss owns as a means to surprise you and to measure your progress since FoFG.Geop, if you like using the bow, you should try buying a pile of Wood Arrows. Lenigrast sells them at 10 souls each, so grabbing several hundred to last you hours of playtime is nearly trivial. Update on the previous page!
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NGDBSS posted:Geop, if you like using the bow, you should try buying a pile of Wood Arrows. Lenigrast sells them at 10 souls each, so grabbing several hundred to last you hours of playtime is nearly trivial.
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Jul 22, 2016 04:38
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Hey, you met Lucatiel! She's one of my favorite NPCs in the Souls games. Strange that you got her to start the second conversation with her.
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Jul 22, 2016 04:47
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SgtSteel91 posted:Hey, you met Lucatiel! She's one of my favorite NPCs in the Souls games. Strange that you got her to start the second conversation with her. That would be because he already met her in pirate town. That's why Geop recognized her in this video.
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Jul 22, 2016 04:55
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So it turns out the pursuer keeps coming back to pursue you. Who knew. I only ever really had issue with him in one particular area that's a bit later on. But beyond being an 'another dude in armor', I really like the fights with him.
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Jul 22, 2016 05:16
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Pursuer is why another dude in armor isn't necessarily a bad thing in a game that "fighting a dude in armor" is what it's best at. The pursuer fights are good fun.
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Jul 22, 2016 05:21
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Jalathas posted:That would be because he already met her in pirate town. That's why Geop recognized her in this video. Whoops, I think I missed a video then. Sorry 
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Jul 22, 2016 05:28
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I never noticed that item above where the kicking barrel dude is on the stairs. Now I'll have to watch the next few episodes to find out what it is. Probably a lifegem or equally common.
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Jul 22, 2016 05:46
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The Pursuer: He pursues you. And is kind of a dick.
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Jul 22, 2016 06:17
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How could this update not be called Who let the dogs out?
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Jul 22, 2016 06:46
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Phuzun posted:I never noticed that item above where the kicking barrel dude is on the stairs. Now I'll have to watch the next few episodes to find out what it is. Probably a lifegem or equally common.  Also I like the aesthetic of the Lost Bastille, it's eerily tranquil.
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Jul 22, 2016 06:57
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DOOP posted:the pursuer owns and is the main reason why the lost bastille owns
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Jul 22, 2016 07:05
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I was really hoping geop/Goonther whomped Pursuer 2: The Revenge immediately so that the entire thread makes comparisons to Lu Bu in Dynasty Warriors and Goonther for the rest of the LP. Maybe another time when he's using a pole-arm of some kind
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Jul 22, 2016 07:14
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Fabulousvillain posted:I was really hoping geop/Goonther whomped Pursuer 2: The Revenge immediately so that the entire thread makes comparisons to Lu Bu in Dynasty Warriors and Goonther for the rest of the LP. Maybe another time when he's using a pole-arm of some kind One thing that strikes me weird with Lucatiel: she's undead, she's afraid of going Hollow and she hands you a humanity. Anyhow, I like Pursuer Redux. He's a good fight and this is a great little gently caress you to the people who managed to cheese him with the ballista. Gotta learn his moves anyway, chump.
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Jul 22, 2016 07:24
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As seen from her face compared to Goonthers, her Hollowing is rather more gradual. I mean, when your phantom can take like 20-30 hits from a boss that curse has really gotta WORK to take you over.
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I was pissed that the Pursuer showed up again, but it was here that i finally learned how to fight him solo (i cheesed the boss encounter with phantoms) and it made the area much more fun for me. It's a legit shock when you see that rear end in a top hat come back and he normally surprises you while you're fighting the dogs. And he's completely optional, as Geop saw he disappears if you ever change rooms. Not very good about this pursuing business, in the end. edit: Holy gently caress i never knew about that ladder on the side of Lucatiel's tower. 
Frionnel fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Jul 22, 2016 09:18
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anilEhilated posted:One thing that strikes me weird with Lucatiel: she's undead, she's afraid of going Hollow and she hands you a humanity. Yeah that is weird. Why do you think she did that?
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Jul 22, 2016 10:10
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Looper posted:Yeah that is weird. Why do you think she did that? Because she didn't have a weird old lady tell her how they work?
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Jul 22, 2016 10:26
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Or maybe she really really likes Goonther? This is your chance! Go get her! Ask her out! There's that one bonfire near the beginning of Heide's tower that has a great view. You even cleared the place out earlier so you can be alone. It's perfect!
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Jul 22, 2016 10:38
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Geop posted:just u wait I got 999 problems but lack of arrows ain't one
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Jul 22, 2016 11:11
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Percy waving hello again in the Bastille is the best thing Scholar added. He does indeed gently caress off when you run away too far; I suspect he didn't spawn at first because Geop went out of the tower, Percy spawned, then Geop went into the tower again to lure the dogs in, and off-screen, Percy said gently caress that noise. They very probably did that because the areas he shows up in were not designed as boss arenas, so you could easily go, for example, into the tower and cheese him from there. Instead he fucks off. It's a little weird that going off the grass does the same but oh well. Nuramor posted:Because she didn't have a weird old lady tell her how they work?
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Simply Simon posted:She explicitly says she has no idea what an Effigy does. Goonther can't tell her because he's mute. It's tragic. I like to imagine a situation where Goonther was undead at the time, and while she's talking about not knowing what it is, Goonther just crams it into his chest and becomes normal again, just to hear what old timey version of "what THE HELL did you just DO?!" she'd come up with
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Jul 22, 2016 12:09
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I remember demonstrating effigies to her on multiple occasions hoping she'd watch and learn.
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IGgy IGsen posted:I remember demonstrating effigies to her on multiple occasions hoping she'd watch and learn. This is not the game for that kind of (npc) behavior, kid!
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Percy is my favorite mini-boss in DS2. He' s a heavy hitter and he's not a quitter. He might've taken a loss before, but he's getting better and better every day!anilEhilated posted:Anyhow, I like Pursuer Redux. He's a good fight and this is a great little gently caress you to the people who managed to cheese him with the ballista. Gotta learn his moves anyway, chump. I fervently object to the notion that spacing Percy in front of the ballista's narrow hit box and close enough to run to the ballista itself before the parry animation wears off is a cheesy maneuver. primaltrash fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Ballista-ing Pursuer is only cheesy if you do it by distracting him with a summon instead of whomping him with a shield and then scurrying around to shoot him. Bonus if you kill your summon. Whenever I'm Phantoming it up to help out with Pursuer to grind some souls on a new PC, I always lead him into the ballista to smash them so the host can't kill me with the drat things.
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Night10194 posted:Ballista-ing Pursuer is only cheesy if you do it by distracting him with a summon instead of whomping him with a shield and then scurrying around to shoot him. I just bee-line to the ballistae. If it works I kill the pursuer, if I kill the host then that's just funny and if the pursuer destroys them then I get to have fun fighting him. Though lately I've had bad luck getting summoned for the bossfight - usually I drop my sign at the bonfire and invariably the host will have 1 other buddy there and wants to kill the pursuer on that platform just outside AND go kill the giant.
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NGDBSS posted:At least a few of them would throw pyromancy on the original version, though for obvious reasons they'd be more prone to toss it when you were at range. I think he only starts spawning up after you open the door--I figure the game expects you to already have worked out the barrel thing and is being 'nice' That said, contrary to what the other guys in the video said, there is a reason drop down where that archer did at the beginning. The pursuer is a really easy bossfight once you learn how to fight him--which is good, because you get a -lot- of practice in SofTS. And he usually drops some nice stuff in addition to souls. Edit: Don't know if this will help Geop, as he relies more on his shield, but my main tactic is abusing recovery frames--the enemies', that is. I don't heal or attack unless they just missed me, because they can't do anything until they get back to a neutral stance. DMW45 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Wow that statue is a kick in the dick. Are all the new ones that irritatingly placed? Pursuer popping up in various areas is kinda nice. It's not too difficult of a boss and it fits the narrative of the hunter that is actively pursuing you better than it did pre scholar.
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I wonder if the 'it looks like you' part of Human Effigies might not actually be just fluff - maybe not everyone can use the ones the player uses. It could be that Goonther's wandered past tons of people with different-'shaped' effigies in their pockets and ignored them because they didn't 'fit' him. Either that, or yeah, Lucatiel's doing something weird.
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PSWII60 posted:Wow that statue is a kick in the dick. I'm pretty sure, depending on how you enter the Bastille and whether you figure out/don't screw up the barrel thing, you can end up trapped with no way out save homeward bones or suicide by gravity. It is a contender for dickiest statue addition, definitely.
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Jul 22, 2016 18:45
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You always have the darksign.
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PSWII60 posted:Wow that statue is a kick in the dick. Are all the new ones that irritatingly placed? Pursuer popping up in various areas is kinda nice. It's not too difficult of a boss and it fits the narrative of the hunter that is actively pursuing you better than it did pre scholar. There are a couple gently caress yous with them but that's the worst. quote:You always have the darksign. Yes, indeed. 
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The Pursuer being a massive dick is probably my second favourite Scholar change. I imagine that'd be different if I actually played this version, but watching playthroughs and "oh no here he is again" just makes me laugh.
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Wonderslug posted:I'm pretty sure, depending on how you enter the Bastille and whether you figure out/don't screw up the barrel thing, you can end up trapped with no way out save homeward bones or suicide by gravity. It is a contender for dickiest statue addition, definitely. It is actually possible to open the "doesn't open from this side" door - you can apparently shoot the barrels blocking it from outside the tower. Never done it (because it is pretty pointless), but seen a video.
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Night10194 posted:Bonus if you kill your summon. Whenever I'm Phantoming it up to help out with Pursuer to grind some souls on a new PC, I always lead him into the ballista to smash them so the host can't kill me with the drat things. It's even better when you're the phantom and you accidentaly kill the host. I may or may not have done that. More than one time.
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Frionnel posted:It's even better when you're the phantom and you accidentaly kill the host. I may or may not have done that. More than one time. "Accidentally"
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And thus, the Mound Makers were born.
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decided to jump back in to the game since geop is doing this lp and all and man i forgot how much running around there is
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I'm amazed that Geop handled that area so well the first time. I guess White-Glint-Wannabe only shows up after you do something else. Which I did so I got mobbed immediately when I went in this way lately. I approached from the other end first. Hey I heard Dark Souls was all about being really hard for no good reason, so let's shove a bunch of dogs and crossbow snipers and a boss-turned-miniboss all in one area. Oh and the snipers don't take fall damage even though that same fall would take off a good deal of your health. Oh and they also have greatswords that hit really hard too. gently caress this game. DOOP posted:the pursuer sucks and is the main reason why the lost bastille sucks Nah, though that does get old really loving fast. What makes the Lost Bastille suck is how this entire area is basically made of :zergrush: now. It had some pretty offensive enemy rush moments in the base game too, but Scholar makes the area do it way more, and that's terrible. That new statue is also almost a mercy, really. What was beyond that door was nothing but terrible even originally. "From what are you doing, please stop." It's a shame because the area does have some clever somewhat hidden branches to it that you can potentially just completely walk past. But it's kinda hamstrung by Dark Souls 2 encounter design. And a few other Dark Souls 2 weirdness, namely the exploding barrel thing.
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