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Spermando posted:I think you got this totally backwards. The translation makes his way of speaking more consistent (in Japanese he swings between well-educated guy and generic anime thug) and the VA makes him sound way more feminine and distinct than most bad guy voices. The translation also made him sound more unique instead of just repeating generic stuff like "Weak! Weak!" No, that's literally why Seitz's Dio isn't good. It misses the point of him. Dio is a really inconsistent person. Dio is out of his head. He is a well-educated man, a qualified lawyer and a total thug. If he wants something he can't get with his charm, he takes it. (See: mind control buds). Dio is also pretty feminine, which Koyasu carries sublimely, and he should be distinct. which Koyasu is. That's why he's good. The other aspect to him is that he's all bravado and show. He's not a good fighter or whatever, his Stand is exceptionally good, but he's not actually good at using it. Koyasu is Wataru Takagi (Okuyasu) levels of perfect for the role. Daisuke Ono is up there too.
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EmmyOk posted:I decided to screenshot some of the stuff that flickers by in the newest OP to see if recent events shed much light on them. I'll timg them so other anime only people can skip them if they don't like looking for stuff in OPs considering the prior ones were kind of spoilery if you knew the series. I'm anime only too though if that helps! I have a theory that there's more than one killer around. Like you said, Reimi's scars don't match Kira's style. He's been shown to go after women only, when they're alone. Plus, it seems he treats his victim (or at least their hand) as if they were in love. Why would he traumatize his girlfriend by showing her her dead dog? Now, look at the big J at the end:  Since Kira is the main villain, that has to be his symbol in the top right.  It also shows up in the first OP, along with symbols of the other main characters (Oku's dollar, Rohan's pen tip etc.). Note the two daggers. However, the skull in the middle of the second OP is different:  Different skull shape, narrower eyesockets, and it looks like it has horns, as opposed to the ears that Kira's symbol has. And it doesn't have daggers.  But it does have a creepy hand with huge claws. Ones that could leave a huge wound on someones back. And look what shows up for a split-second after the camera zooms behind Reimi:  Same narrow eyesockets. I think that's the killer from 15 years ago, and Kira's introduction in this episode was a clever fakeout. There's some more skulls when the pictures of the crew start burning up, but I don't know how that ties in with all this yet: 
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Spermando posted:I think you got this totally backwards. The translation makes his way of speaking more consistent (in Japanese he swings between well-educated guy and generic anime thug) and the VA makes him sound way more feminine and distinct than most bad guy voices. The translation also made him sound more unique instead of just repeating generic stuff like "Weak! Weak!" That's the point. Dio has an affectation of sophistication and high class, but when under pressure, that facade falls apart and he's revealed as a petty, childish rear end in a top hat who's exactly a product of the upbringing he's trying to escape. If the English translation makes him consistently one or the other, that's a massive misunderstanding of his character. Ah yes, Dio, the character that says really generic lines like "WRRRYYYYY", "how much bread have you eaten in your life", and "gudbai jyojyo!". About the last things anyone could claim about Dio is he has a generic manner of speaking or lack of memorable lines.
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Spermando posted:I think you got this totally backwards. The translation makes his way of speaking more consistent (in Japanese he swings between well-educated guy and generic anime thug) and the VA makes him sound way more feminine and distinct than most bad guy voices. The translation also made him sound more unique instead of just repeating generic stuff like "Weak! Weak!" Dio is an anime thug that really really wants to pretend he's well-educated
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This works surprisingly well. Dragonwagon posted:I have a theory that there's more than one killer around. Like you said, Reimi's scars don't match Kira's style. He's been shown to go after women only, when they're alone. Plus, it seems he treats his victim (or at least their hand) as if they were in love. Why would he traumatize his girlfriend by showing her her dead dog? Maybe he's only attracted to the hands? He'll just relentlessly and messily murder anything and anyone else in the way but save the hands for himself and make sure they are kept lovely and clean.
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Jul 23, 2016 21:24
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Augus posted:Maybe he's only attracted to The Hands? Oh no Okayasu 
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When Okuyasu lost his arm to Red Hot Chili Peppers, Kira's eye started twitching rapdily
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I don't think it's fair to say Dio is bad at fighting, he shows in the boxing match that he's quite good. His solution to Hamon users in Phantom Boots is pretty clever too.
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Jul 23, 2016 21:43
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I like how much convincing it took for Rohan to want to catch a murderer.
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After the talk in this episode I went back to watch the first scene again. Now, I didn't know Kira's deal going into this anime but I did know the main villain was a scary serial killer with some kind of crazy stand. I'd assumed that scene had the woman making breakfast for herself, and then somehow Kira instantly killed her and destroyed her entire body with his stand between her setting down the plate and sitting down in her chair. But on re-watching it, only her one, right hand is visible the entire time. It was Kira using the spatula and flipping the eggs and such, he just used her hand like a creepy weirdo for everything. I like Kira a lot as a villain already.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I like how much convincing it took for Rohan to want to catch a murderer. She wasn't even asking him to do that, she just wanted them to at least tell the police, but Rohan couldn't be damned.
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Rangpur posted:For real though, we've known there was a serial killer since the 1st episode but I didn't expect the reveal in this one, nor did I expect it to be so effective. Yikes. TBH, the first thing I thought of was the Derry interludes in Stephen King's IT. Which is also about a small town with a mysteriously high rate of disappearance thanks to a supernatural serial killer. DIU definitely makes me think about IT a little; also, the alley scene when they can't turn back reminds me a lot of Pet Sematary, when there's stuff that you see/hear on the path or deadfall that you're just supposed to ignore and walk past without turning back. Something that Araki consistently does well is just insert a weird story into the middle of everything that magically just works.
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Momomo posted:She wasn't even asking him to do that, she just wanted them to at least tell the police, but Rohan couldn't be damned. She did note Rohan is really selfish. He prevented Koichi from going to school just to look at an alleyway that wasn't on a map and then tried to guilt trip him for saying no initially.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:She did note Rohan is really selfish. He prevented Koichi from going to school just to look at an alleyway that wasn't on a map and then tried to guilt trip him for saying no initially. well, yeah??? koichi can just catch up on his studies whenever, this is really interesting and could make them money if figure it out. it's honestly incredibly selfish of koichi to care more about something frivolous like having fun in youth than something that could benefit both of them like real-world knowledge. rohan is completely unselfish and he's never done anything wrong
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Adelheid posted:well, yeah??? koichi can just catch up on his studies whenever, this is really interesting and could make them money if figure it out. it's honestly incredibly selfish of koichi to care more about something frivolous like having fun in youth than something that could benefit both of them like real-world knowledge. rohan is completely unselfish and he's never done anything wrong Rohan just wants to learn more so he can give the good readers of Japan interesting manga to read every week. A noble and pure cause if ever there was one.
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hoobajoo posted:Rohan just wants to learn more so he can give the good readers of Japan interesting manga to read every week. A noble and pure cause if ever there was one. honestly, he was forced to take a month off due to injuries (THANKS, JOSUKE, FOR DEPRIVING US OF THIS LEGEND) but he really may as well use his vacation time to make sure he's even better when he starts back up again. that's just called being responsible
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Adelheid posted:honestly, he was forced to take a month off due to injuries (THANKS, JOSUKE, FOR DEPRIVING US OF THIS LEGEND) but he really may as well use his vacation time to make sure he's even better when he starts back up again. that's just called being responsible But enough about togashi
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Isshin Chiba was a better Dio than Koyasu
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Chiba's muda muda muda is undefeatable
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In the OVA dub, Dio is voiced by the same guy who voices Grendel in The Wolf Among Us well that's my trivia for the day, bye.
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Waffleman_ posted:In the OVA dub, Dio is voiced by the same guy who voices Grendel in The Wolf Among Us well that's my trivia for the day, bye. The BEST character from that game, too
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I love how Rohan was violently beaten by Josuke enough to delay his manga updates and destroy his house, yet he's back on his feet one arc later. Similarly with Hazamada. Meanwhile, Tamami is still in the hospital. 
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I want a bit where someone tries to read over Rohan's shoulder but he turns the pages so fast that they just keep leaving after-images and it's like trying to read words on a 5-dimensional object.
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Waffleman_ posted:In the OVA dub, Dio is voiced by the same guy who voices Grendel in The Wolf Among Us well that's my trivia for the day, bye. OVA Dio was a good voice
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BillmasterCozb posted:The BEST character from that game, too Grendel was great.
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Waffleman_ posted:In the OVA dub, Dio is voiced by the same guy who voices Grendel in The Wolf Among Us well that's my trivia for the day, bye. In the OVA Wilson Phillips is voiced by Charles Martinet
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:In the OVA Wilson Phillips is voiced by Charles Martinet Let's-a go!
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Seeing Part 4 makes me want to watch Yu Yu Hakusho. They seem very similiar.
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Fat_Cow posted:Seeing Part 4 makes me want to watch Yu Yu Hakusho. They seem very similiar. Absolutely watch Yu Yu Hakusho! Funimation has it streaming and it's a ton of fun. bleh I wanna show a yu yu hakusho/DIU mashup gif here but it kinda shows a Stand design we haven't seen yet: link Okuyasu Nijimura fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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Yu Yu Hakusho is incredibly good. Also up there with Cowboy Bebop and FMA for best english dubs, imo.
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Yeah, the dub for it is surprisingly good. I grabbed all the blu-rays when they were on sale and figured I'd let the dubs run in the background while I'm working and it's a blast. Kuwabara is the greatest and Kurama and Hiei are pretty dang awesome, too.
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Josuke thinks that the ghost probably mistook him for Kuwabara but is willing to give solving this murder a chance.
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Okuyasu Nijimura posted:Absolutely watch Yu Yu Hakusho! Funimation has it streaming and it's a ton of fun. Well there's always this. http://www.superpose.tv/?v=OaFxSnvlpc
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EmmyOk posted:I don't think it's fair to say Dio is bad at fighting, he shows in the boxing match that he's quite good. His solution to Hamon users in Phantom Boots is pretty clever too. Yeah, he just doesn't have any real finesse or sophistication with his fighting. It's more like bar brawling and using whatever weapons he can or just what he thinks is funny. Which contrasts with his whole Educated British Villain image, which is entirely the point. That and, as an audience, we're so used to Educated British Villains that it's weird and off putting when one acts thuggish and brawly like Dio does. But it makes perfect sense for Dio because again, that's the point of his character.
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Okuyasu Nijimura posted:Yeah, the dub for it is surprisingly good. I grabbed all the blu-rays when they were on sale and figured I'd let the dubs run in the background while I'm working and it's a blast. Kuwabara's VA is still the voice I hear in my head whenever there's a punk with a pompadour in anything. It's just so perfect!
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      Jotaro is scary. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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RareAcumen posted:Well there's always this. http://www.superpose.tv/?v=OaFxSnvlpc Magical.
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I hope there's another Zeppeli character in JoJos one day
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Surprisingly Dope posted:I hope there's another Zeppeli character in JoJos one day If I recall correctly, don't Zeppeli clan die helping Joestars? I read that somewhere, don't remember where.
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