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necrotic posted:Here's someone who setup i3 as a window manager and it all worked.
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Combat Pretzel posted:It ran a window manager, which mostly has dependencies on X11, zsh which probably has the same API coverage as bash and neovim, which again has portability in mind. I'll be more impressed when I see Pitivi or Ardour running OK-ish.
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Ugh, I did my windows 7 to 10 upgrade a while back, then significantly upgraded my hardware and it refuses to activate for that reason, is there any way to get a new 10 key or am I SOL? Don't really have another $120 or $200 to drop right now.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:26
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fishmech posted:You can just run the downloader from the Microsoft site again, and have it make a USB drive, and use the key you get from the DVD package with it. Seems kind of weird that in 2016 there's no option for Windows to just be like, "beep boop, we noticed your current installation of Windows is not activated. Would you like to purchase a new license key?" rather than having to order an outdated storage medium to get a series of letters and numbers on a physical sticker.
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DrNutt posted:Seems kind of weird that in 2016 there's no option for Windows to just be like, "beep boop, we noticed your current installation of Windows is not activated. Would you like to purchase a new license key?" rather than having to order an outdated storage medium to get a series of letters and numbers on a physical sticker. Er, what? You've been able to just purchase them online for several years, but Microsoft pretty much always keeps it at the MSRP, while you can get pretty nice discounts from retailers. For instance, here's where you can buy Windows 10 Home direct from Microsoft, it's $119: https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-10-Home/productID.319937100 But if you buy a physical copy of Windows 10 Home OEM from Newegg, it's only $99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416892&cm_re=windows_10_home-_-32-416-892-_-Product xamphear posted:Is there any reason someone would genuinely want to do this, though? Other than "wow, cool, it works" I mean. If you're doing video or audio editing, you likely care about performance and would want to run your binaries native, right? And there are Windows apps that can do what those do... So wouldn't someone just either run Linux and use the apps natively, or use Windows apps on Windows to do the same thing? Linux binaries are running natively on the new thing, it's not a VM.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:38
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Deviant posted:Ugh, I did my windows 7 to 10 upgrade a while back, then significantly upgraded my hardware and it refuses to activate for that reason, is there any way to get a new 10 key or am I SOL? Don't really have another $120 or $200 to drop right now.
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Jul 24, 2016 18:08
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Deviant posted:Ugh, I did my windows 7 to 10 upgrade a while back, then significantly upgraded my hardware and it refuses to activate for that reason, is there any way to get a new 10 key or am I SOL? Don't really have another $120 or $200 to drop right now. Did you already try doing "Change product key" and entering your 7 key?
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Jul 24, 2016 18:13
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I'm coming from OS X and the biggest thing I miss is the ability to have certain apps always start on a specific desktop. Is there any way to make window management behave the same way on W10? And are there TotalSpaces (http://totalspaces.binaryage.com/) and Alfred (https://www.alfredapp.com/) equivalents for Windows?
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Jul 24, 2016 18:16
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astral posted:Did you already try doing "Change product key" and entering your 7 key? I'm not even sure I can find it anymore. 
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Jul 24, 2016 18:20
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Deviant posted:I'm not even sure I can find it anymore. If not, do you still have the old hardware? You could probably then go back to the old hardware and make sure you have a MS account login to your computer. Then when the anniversary edition hits on August 2, update and it'll automatically link your digital entitlement to that MS account. Then, swap back to the new hardware and run the new-in-the-anniversary-edition activation troubleshooter. Theoretically that will let you re-activate across some hardware changes that aren't just automatically accepted.
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Jul 24, 2016 18:37
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astral posted:If not, do you still have the old hardware? You could probably then go back to the old hardware and make sure you have a MS account login to your computer. Then when the anniversary edition hits on August 2, update and it'll automatically link your digital entitlement to that MS account. Then, swap back to the new hardware and run the new-in-the-anniversary-edition activation troubleshooter. Theoretically that will let you re-activate across some hardware changes that aren't just automatically accepted. I technically do, but man, I upgraded in the first place because that hardware was old and slow and busted. I guess I can suffer through it for a few days.
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Jul 24, 2016 18:39
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Deviant posted:I technically do, but man, I upgraded in the first place because that hardware was old and slow and busted. I guess I can suffer through it for a few days. It's not a guarantee, but if you can't find the old product key or swing the cost of a new license it's probably your best chance. Good luck!
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Jul 24, 2016 18:40
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astral posted:It's not a guarantee, but if you can't find the old product key or swing the cost of a new license it's probably your best chance. Good luck! https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Professional-License-KEY-/dp/B01E7GLANS Any reason I can't do soemthing like this and go with a fresh 7->10? Or is there some way I can put a new 7 key into my existing 10 installation?
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Jul 24, 2016 18:46
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Actually one other option is you could try contacting their activation support - does windows offer you a phone number to call or anything in Settings -> Update & security -> Activation? Otherwise you could try the "Contact Support" app.Deviant posted:https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Professional-License-KEY-/dp/B01E7GLANS Any reason I can't do soemthing like this and go with a fresh 7->10? Or is there some way I can put a new 7 key into my existing 10 installation? You could, but that's probably grey market territory. And yeah, you can 'change product key' 10 to a valid w7 or w8 key to get a digital entitlement, though I had mixed luck with this (one of my w7 keys just wasn't recognized). astral fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jul 24, 2016 |
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Jul 24, 2016 18:50
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Anyone having trouble with the upgrade assistant slowing around 70% completion? Jesus it zipped through that far but its at 84% now and took considerably longer to get to that point even. Last night it was at 99% and stayed there overnight.
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Jul 24, 2016 18:54
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fishmech posted:Er, what? You've been able to just purchase them online for several years, but Microsoft pretty much always keeps it at the MSRP, while you can get pretty nice discounts from retailers.
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Jul 24, 2016 21:51
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Klyith posted:Not at all. I tell them to straight upgrade because there's about a 1 in 2 chance that everything will work perfectly and you won't need to purge. I've seen several people who are set on the clean install because they've done it for 20 years on Windows and end up being just fine moving straight over. That being said, the other 50% of people have a terrible time. You can purge during the upgrade, but I think its' worth it to upgrade and check, first.
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Jul 25, 2016 00:01
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So I'm a dummy and did a Windows 10 Reset without first grabbing my office 2010 CD key. I checked the registry after the reset but it wasn't there. Any other suggestions on how I might be able to recover it/get/but a cheap/free office cd key?
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Jul 25, 2016 00:29
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Massasoit posted:So I'm a dummy and did a Windows 10 Reset without first grabbing my office 2010 CD key. How did you originally get it, like by disc or download? If you'd bought it as a digital download/code you may be able to get it from your email. And if you had an old system backup around, it may be able to be retrieved from there.
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Jul 25, 2016 00:49
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fishmech posted:How did you originally get it, like by disc or download? If you'd bought it as a digital download/code you may be able to get it from your email. Electronic code from when I was in undergrad in like 2011. I checked my gmail and there's nothing in there. Don't think I did any backups... I dont really have many important files that aren't saved in cloud storage.
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Hey, just to confirm, if I need to do a clean wipe and install of windows 10, will I be able to downgrade back down to windows 7, if needed, as long as I have my product key? Let's just say I Did A Stupid and now a regular upgrade from 7 to 10 won't be possible. EDIT: To clarify, I plan on having a copy of Win 7 on USB for the downgrade. I'm assuming I'd need to do a second wipe and install to downgrade. neogeo0823 fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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Jul 25, 2016 03:22
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neogeo0823 posted:Hey, just to confirm, if I need to do a clean wipe and install of windows 10, will I be able to downgrade back down to windows 7, if needed, as long as I have my product key? Let's just say I Did A Stupid and now a regular upgrade from 7 to 10 won't be possible. Yes, your Windows 7 key never gets deactivated or invalidated. You're just not supposed to use it so long as 10 is installed.
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Jul 25, 2016 03:26
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Yes. You'd need to do a fresh install, but the upgrade process doesn't invalidate your 7 key.
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Thanks for answering quick. That was actually one of the smoothest transitions I've done in a while. Is there a specific thread for me to take all my lovely dumb questions about Win10, or is this it? I had everything set up juuuust right in Win7 to the point where I didn't have to worry about getting malware unless I was actively trying to, and everything was familiar. Now I'm 2 operating systems into the future and I don't know if what worked then still works now, or if I should get with the times and do something different.
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Jul 25, 2016 04:40
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fishmech posted:Linux binaries are running natively on the new thing, it's not a VM. There's a translation layer, and who knows how efficiently Microsoft coded it, but yeah you'd expect it to perform similarly to if you were running Linux natively. On the other hand, VMs can perform well too. Or so I've heard.
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Is there a way to have Windows 10 output audio to two separate devices at once? My PC is hooked up to PC speakers and to my television, but only one is ever in use at a time. Is there a way to set it up so I dont have to change the default playback device every time?
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Meat Recital posted:Is there a way to have Windows 10 output audio to two separate devices at once? My PC is hooked up to PC speakers and to my television, but only one is ever in use at a time. Is there a way to set it up so I dont have to change the default playback device every time? Nothing built in, you have to use something like VoiceMeeter or Virtual Audio Cable to get a virtual output device, that then fans out to the actual outputs you want. Also be aware that this may introduce some delay on the audio.
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Jul 25, 2016 09:08
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fishmech posted:Er, what? You've been able to just purchase them online for several years, but Microsoft pretty much always keeps it at the MSRP, while you can get pretty nice discounts from retailers. Is the price difference there not down to the fact that the cheaper one is an OEM copy? It used to be that those versions were cheaper because they could be only ever be activated on one machine, while the full licences could be moved to a new machine if needed. Also, in the past you could only buy an OEM copy in conjuction with a qualifying piece of hardware (motherboard for example).
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Arsten posted:I tell them to straight upgrade because there's about a 1 in 2 chance that everything will work perfectly and you won't need to purge. I've seen several people who are set on the clean install because they've done it for 20 years on Windows and end up being just fine moving straight over. Yeah, upgrading kinda works and I did it for my desktop PC (rolled back on the same day the first time, because of a bug that made opening start menu take half an hour), but both my laptops got straight up nuked without questions, because I use them for university and all my data is backed up anyway. The first one got nuked because it had three different installations of Matlab and other poo poo I didn't need anymore (academic software is fun, academic matlab plugins even more). The second one got nuked because it was factory fresh and contained all the annoying OEM-ware.
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Meat Recital posted:Is there a way to have Windows 10 output audio to two separate devices at once? My PC is hooked up to PC speakers and to my television, but only one is ever in use at a time. Is there a way to set it up so I dont have to change the default playback device every time? I used a program called CheVolume for this back when I was in the exact same situation. Worked pretty well and was pretty user-friendly.
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chippy posted:Is the price difference there not down to the fact that the cheaper one is an OEM copy? It used to be that those versions were cheaper because they could be only ever be activated on one machine, while the full licences could be moved to a new machine if needed. Also, in the past you could only buy an OEM copy in conjuction with a qualifying piece of hardware (motherboard for example). Retail OEM copies exist solely to provide a cheaper legit version of Windows. You can still move it to a different system always, it'll just be a bit more of a hassle to do than the "full" license. You also miss out on a certain number of free phone calls to Microsoft support, but since most people don't do that it's no big deal.
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Buttcoin purse posted:There's a translation layer, and who knows how efficiently Microsoft coded it, but yeah you'd expect it to perform similarly to if you were running Linux natively. On the other hand, VMs can perform well too. Or so I've heard. It's not so much a translation layer as another "personality" of the system. Windows NT has always supported multiple personalities through subsystems. The POSIX subsystem, its replacement the subsystem for Unix-based applications (SUA), and the OS/2 subsystem are the most well known alternatives to the main Windows API subsystem everyone knows. The new stuff is called "Windows Subsystem for Linux".
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wolrah posted:It's not so much a translation layer as another "personality" of the system. Windows NT has always supported multiple personalities through subsystems. The POSIX subsystem, its replacement the subsystem for Unix-based applications (SUA), and the OS/2 subsystem are the most well known alternatives to the main Windows API subsystem everyone knows. The new stuff is called "Windows Subsystem for Linux". And the funny thing is that you're specifically not running Linux, the kernel, at all, when using WSL, you're just getting an ELF loader and a compatibility layer that looks like Linux from the outside. Let's all congratulate Stallman on the best implementation environment for GNU/NT yet.
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My mother tried to run the upgrade from 7 to 10 the other day, and it failed for whatever reason so it reverted back to 7. I won't be able to get out there and do it for here before the 29th. Is there any chance that the fact that she at least tried to do the upgrade already registered her hardware profile with Microsoft, and that a clean install will activate after the 29th? (there's nothing I can do regardless so I'm more curious than anything else)
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:My mother tried to run the upgrade from 7 to 10 the other day, and it failed for whatever reason so it reverted back to 7. Pretty sure no. It doesn't activate until after installation.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:My mother tried to run the upgrade from 7 to 10 the other day, and it failed for whatever reason so it reverted back to 7. Have her set up team viewer for you to remote into the machine. Then turn off the automatic update service, delete C:\Windows\Software Distribution\ and turn Windows update back on. Or, instead of using Windows update, just download the Windows 10 Media Creation tool to force an update manually.
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wolrah posted:It's not so much a translation layer as another "personality" of the system. Windows NT has always supported multiple personalities through subsystems. The POSIX subsystem, its replacement the subsystem for Unix-based applications (SUA), and the OS/2 subsystem are the most well known alternatives to the main Windows API subsystem everyone knows. The new stuff is called "Windows Subsystem for Linux".
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Is Windows 10 backwards compatible with programs for Windows 7?
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Jul 25, 2016 20:24
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%95 yes. That 5% being stuff like antivirus programs and super old stuff.
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