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One thing I really appreciate from Yukimura is that he took the time to have Thorfinn try full pacifism and try real hard to stay that way before having to resort to the form of pacifism typically show in media (batman and such). Because let's be honest you aren't really being pacifist when you're breaking bones and poo poo. It always felt kind of a cheap way to give a dude the moral high ground.
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 16:32 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 02:14 |
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I know that Vagn and whatnot is from the actual sagas But I just want Yukimura drawings of Constantinople
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 17:35 |
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I hope he goes way off historical script and has Vinland be a successful utopia. Don't want to see the dream crushed in the end.
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 17:49 |
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Tea caddy time http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Hyouge-Mono/Vol-005-Ch-047--Take-Me-Softly?id=287915
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 17:54 |
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Gyges posted:I hope he goes way off historical script and has Vinland be a successful utopia. Don't want to see the dream crushed in the end. Yeah I've often wondered how he could possibly end this, because if we follow the sagas then it'd basically be "Welp. The End." But I can't imagine he'd actually go with a utopia ending either.
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 17:55 |
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Gyges posted:I hope he goes way off historical script and has Vinland be a successful utopia. Don't want to see the dream crushed in the end. Isn't there a theory were the vinlanders eventually joined the local Natives? Like the Roanoke people?
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 19:22 |
MonsieurChoc posted:Isn't there a theory were the vinlanders eventually joined the local Natives? Like the Roanoke people? Hmm. The time frame is totally off by a century or so from the earliest estimates, but the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederation has in their founding story a mysterious peacemaker from the north who, with the help of a local chief, Hiawatha, came down and persuaded the tribes to stop fighting. And it worked. For hundreds of years there was peace between the tribes. (They still fought outsiders, but no one's perfect.) To modern sensibilities it'd be a bit weird to have a white guy come down and teach the natives how to live, but it would give Thorfinn a lasting legacy of peace in this story. Though if we're sticking to vaguely real dates, it could work out to be Thorfinn's grandson or something, which would make them fairly native at that point. I'm not sure I'd like that ending, but I just wanted to throw that out there in case it happens and in a decade or whatever I'll be able to go back to this post and say I called it.
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# ? Jun 26, 2016 21:21 |
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Vinland Saga owns so much. I really don't understand people in the commentary section hoping for Thorfinn to mindless kill anybody again. His non-lethal fighting owns, the scene where he takes a beating and says that he has no enemies at all is so much better than any murder spree. I could only see him killing someone now if it's absolutely necessary to save someone innocent. I hope too, that they change a bit of history and give him a peaceful ending
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 07:38 |
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Comment sections are full of idiots, pedophiles, and future rape-murderers I believe ad block can disable disqus, I suggest doing so
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 08:11 |
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Eiba posted:This is the best hope for a happy ending for Thorfinn. Or I mean, a not "everything's hosed and it was all pointless" ending. The Norse settlement itself is obviously not gonna last, and that's gonna be really sad if Thorfinn's trying to make it work. Wiki posted:Hiawatha was a follower of the Great Peacemaker (Deganawida), a Huron prophet and spiritual leader who proposed the unification of the Iroquois peoples, who shared common ancestry and similar languages. The Great Peacemaker was a compelling spiritual presence, but was impeded in evangelizing his prophecy by foreign affiliation and a severe speech impediment. Hiawatha, a skilled and charismatic orator, was instrumental in persuading the Senecas, Cayugas, Onondagas, Oneidas and Mohawks to accept the Great Peacemaker's vision and band together to become the Five Nations of the Iroquois confederacy. The Tuscarora nation joined the Confederacy in 1722 to become the Sixth Nation. okay this would own if yukimura could pull it off
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 08:18 |
Captain Invictus posted:Comment sections are full of idiots, pedophiles, and future rape-murderers Ghostery does if Adblock can't.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 09:28 |
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Have to admit I am kind of disappointed that Thorfinn used violence but I suppose that's the kind of world he lives in.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 03:19 |
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Phobophilia posted:okay this would own if yukimura could pull it off I'm going to be really disappointed now if that's not the direction Yukimura goes in. Volume posted:Have to admit I am kind of disappointed that Thorfinn used violence but I suppose that's the kind of world he lives in. I had been feeling that this was going to be inevitable. Even if Floki wasn't a major dirtbag Thorfinn would be bound to end up in a situation where some innocents are being killed and the only way to stop it is to fight the aggressors off. I agree with what was mentioned above in that it was good to have Thorfinn try to be a legit pacifist first and have that fail, since it feels way better than having him just be generic media "I don't kill but I cause lots of pain and injuries" pacifist #4322. Genocyber fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jul 1, 2016 |
# ? Jul 1, 2016 03:24 |
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Yeah, trying his method and moving to a different one after it didn't work is a good way to do it, especially considering how ruthless vikings are, he knows nobody will survive if he doesn't stop them.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 03:35 |
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Volume posted:Have to admit I am kind of disappointed that Thorfinn used violence but I suppose that's the kind of world he lives in. I thought it was really wonderful, primarily because it was highly reminiscent of his father, though I don't think he's realized it. I would encourage anyone reading this to at bare minimum go back and read the flashback with his pops fight. It also helps to set the context for Floki because I'd honestly forgotten who he was our what he really did until I reread those parts.
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 04:05 |
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He's different from ""I don't kill but I cause lots of pain and injuries" pacifist #4322. " mainly because he's actively trying to create a place where people can get away from the cycle of violence, he just discovered that until then he can't ignore people suffering around him if he can do something, and he even tries to talk first, only resorting to violence as the last, utmost option. Other generic pacifist are just fighting violence with less (or more honorable) violence. (And sometimes you get that pacifist character that goes full pacifism and does nothing, which is pretty bad too)
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# ? Jul 1, 2016 04:42 |
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I got what you want I got what you need Otoyome 57: It's Happening!!!
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 13:31 |
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lol
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 13:55 |
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Oh Lord, how perfect and gentle this is, the world you have given us.
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 14:23 |
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I love this duo so much.
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 18:24 |
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JosephWongKS posted:Oh Lord, how perfect and gentle this is, the world you have given us. Is that quoted from somewhere else? I feel like I should know it.
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# ? Jul 12, 2016 18:49 |
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This is indeed so very fantastic and lovely. I just wanted to note how much I love Pariya's hair, though. All those braids. It's so cool-looking!
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# ? Jul 13, 2016 04:53 |
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Pavlov posted:Is that quoted from somewhere else? I feel like I should know it. Dunno about that, but Pariya does thank god for the new and terrific post-smooch world she now embarks on, and I just kind of bibled it up a little because it sounds a little facetious without that touch of ceremony. Maybe I heard it somewhere once and forgot.
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 04:09 |
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Oh you're the translator? No, I tried tracking it down and came up empty-handed. I was starting to suspect it was like, an arabic prayer translated into japanese then into english, but I guess you're just really good at getting that scripture-y feel. Actually, while I'm seriousposting, half the reason I like this comic is the quality of its translation. There's a school of thought that says a good literary translation should add to the original work, because inevitably some nuance or context will be lost in the target language, and something else needs to take its place to preserve the quality of a work in addition to its explicit ideas. The translation of this comic is a pretty good example of that working well.
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 18:01 |
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the newest kingdom chapter http://reader.sensescans.com/read/kingdom/en/44/481/page/1
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 23:22 |
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Jose posted:the newest kingdom chapter http://reader.sensescans.com/read/kingdom/en/44/481/page/1 Goddam Kanki
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# ? Jul 15, 2016 23:48 |
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New This is a totally awesome, freaking cool chapter. JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 25, 2016 |
# ? Jul 25, 2016 15:57 |
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Thorkell is present and so the chapter is Good.
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# ? Jul 25, 2016 16:14 |
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JosephWongKS posted:New Eyepatch characters -- the moe-est.
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# ? Jul 25, 2016 17:59 |
Last chapter of Vinland Saga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeeeOYDlAvY
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# ? Jul 25, 2016 20:36 |
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Otoyomegatari 58: Date a girl who lifts
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 07:36 |
I didn't think it could get more adorable than last chapter. I was.wrong.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 12:45 |
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Epoxy Bulletin posted:Otoyomegatari 58: Date a girl who lifts Mm. Yes indeed. A strong, spirited girl like Pariya will be able to bear many healthy children!
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 14:18 |
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The Sandman posted:I didn't think it could get more adorable than last chapter.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 16:32 |
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Pariya is also amazing at terrible jokes.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 16:38 |
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I love how Umar's face in every single panel of this chapter is basically "My girlfriend is awesome"
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 23:02 |
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Vinland Saga 131 be strong, thorfinn Law Cheetah fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Aug 24, 2016 |
# ? Aug 24, 2016 21:17 |
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 21:43 |
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Do it Thorfinn, kill dice head! Or just tell the truth to Thorkell and he will chop Floki to pieces instantly.
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 22:09 |
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I'm enjoying Thorfinn's character arc a fair bit. The anger was really nice, and it's good that he hasn't just changed himself dramatically. I'm looking forward to more of this conflict.
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 22:51 |