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No dial but  Old Teroch is kind of insane(Range 1 and in arc discard all focus/evade tokens), and Fearlessness is 1 point for an extra die set to hit.
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Jul 25, 2016 15:44
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There are suggestions that they are going to get something on the line of A-Wings/Inties/FOsquote:With a maneuver dial remarkably similar to that of the TIE interceptor or TIE/fo fighter, the Protectorate Starfighter would seem a natural fit for the same sort of arc-dodging tactics employed by the Imperial aces who fly those fighters. Also the picture shows a 3 hard turn followed by a boost/barrel roll combo. Green 3 hard turn? Possible.
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Jul 25, 2016 15:54
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If it truly has a dial comparable to TIE/IN, I'm in like Fenn.
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Jul 25, 2016 15:56
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Tekopo posted:There are suggestions that they are going to get something on the line of A-Wings/Inties/FOs I really hope not. I'd much rather have green 2's or 1's.
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Jul 25, 2016 15:57
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Old Teroch is good but he isn't as good as Carnor Jax. He has one more condition to fulfill and it only affects one ship. Carnor is strictly better.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:02
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Beat me to it dangit! Good post please begin discussion!
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Jul 25, 2016 16:03
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The difference between Carnor and old teroch is that Carnor only blocks things while he's alive. Kill him and suddenly all your tokens are available again. Teroch just discards them entirely. I think Carnor is probably a little better, but Teroch is still scary.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:06
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The protectorate fighter is basically the Randy Quaid expansion pack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirVtiJuvDs I definitely dig that FFG is finding ways to allow you to fly these ships really differently.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:12
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ConfusedUs posted:The difference between Carnor and old teroch is that Carnor only blocks things while he's alive.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:13
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Teroch also counters Comm Relay while his ability is active. Carnor won't let them use it but they won't have to spend another action to get it back.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:13
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No, Teroch does not require that the ship be in his arc, only that he be in the enemy ship's arc. You guys are thinking of the title.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:20
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Finster Dexter posted:No, Teroch does not require that the ship be in his arc, only that he be in the enemy ship's arc. You guys are thinking of the title.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:27
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Well, guess I'm buying 2 of the Fang Fighters. Old Teroch and Fenn are going to crazy fun to fly. Have someone chase down Teroch, he takes all their tokens away, Fenn shoots their unmodified ship in the dick. edit: Oh man, Fearlessness adds the die to to your firing arc, not just primary firing arc. That could be crazy on the Firespray or YV-666. enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 25, 2016 |
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Jul 25, 2016 16:35
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If someone is smart, they'll either save Old Teroch for last or alpha strike him if able. No one is going to put him in their arc if they have a choice.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:51
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FFG trying to court Scum players into buying more ships and it'll work. I might even dabble since I already have the Starviper, might nab Most Wanted and then these two Fangies.
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Jul 25, 2016 16:54
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enigmahfc posted:Well, guess I'm buying 2 of the Fang Fighters. Shame it's Scum only. That would be absurd on 4 dice primary ships like the Ghost or TIE Phantom  I'm actually really pleased with all 3 of the unique pilots. Getting 2 focus tokens after pulling a K turn sounds like a good time. Old Teroch is going to be so much fun against token heavy aces.
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canyoneer posted:Shame it's Scum only. That would be absurd on 4 dice primary ships like the Ghost or TIE Phantom Remember that the Protectorate Fighter has a 2 T-Roll.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:05
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enigmahfc posted:Well, guess I'm buying 2 of the Fang Fighters. I'll buy one and turn my scyks around backwards if I want to fly more.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:05
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VI old Teroch + 2 uboats with a 97 bid seems like a pretty good anti-meta list. Teroch really ruins Dengaroos day, ditto Scouts and tokened up aces.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:09
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Hell you cab slap opportunist on him
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Jul 25, 2016 17:12
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Teroch will be quite nice against PWT turret ships. Out of arc will mean that AT kicks in, in arc and don't have tokens.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:13
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Poopy Palpy posted:I'll buy one and turn my scyks around backwards if I want to fly more. I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors but I think that FFG's got a Syck sense of humor...
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Jul 25, 2016 17:14
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I vote that Fenn Rau be shortened to Frau or lengthened to Frauline.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:39
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Can't wait to see the spoilers for the shadow caster so that rebel players can fully comprehend what a loving lovely deal they got out of Wave IX 
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Jul 25, 2016 17:41
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Admiral Joeslop posted:If someone is smart, they'll either save Old Teroch for last or alpha strike him if able. No one is going to put him in their arc if they have a choice. Toss VI on him and most ships don't get a choice.
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Jul 25, 2016 17:42
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Tekopo posted:Can't wait to see the spoilers for the shadow caster so that rebel players can fully comprehend what a loving lovely deal they got out of Wave IX There's always Heroes of the Resistance 
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Jul 25, 2016 17:43
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Where was the card going to be that was speculated to turn YT (whitey?) freighters into Scum ships? I want Dash + Old T-dawg RIGHT MEOW
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Jul 25, 2016 17:45
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So basically VI Old Teroch is "gently caress arc dodgers really, really hard" in ship form? You don't even have to get shots on them, just end up in front of them. He's more durable than Carnor, too, and has more reliable defense with the title. Fearlessness does exactly what we thought it did, and I'm still really disappointed in it. If you polled a hundred X-wing players and asked what Scum needed more of, I'd put money on "more offense" being near the bottom of the list. Especially since it's both non-unique, and available to every ship. And not limited to primary attacks. Go Rebels. 
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I vote that Fenn Rau be shortened to Frau or lengthened to Frauline.  I'm calling Old Teroch Model T.
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Finster Dexter posted:Where was the card going to be that was speculated to turn YT (whitey?) freighters into Scum ships? I want Dash + Old T-dawg RIGHT MEOW It just adds an illicit slot to the freighters, sadly.
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TaurusTorus posted:It just adds an illicit slot to the freighters, sadly. drat drat drat
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Tekopo posted:Can't wait to see the spoilers for the shadow caster so that rebel players can fully comprehend what a loving lovely deal they got out of Wave IX This is not having seen heroes of the resistance, but there's definitely the undertone that Alex Davy really likes the scum faction and gives them the neatest mechanics and FFG does not have a really similar(or any at all) design direction for rebels. Imperials sit somewhere in between.
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Finster Dexter posted:Where was the card going to be that was speculated to turn YT (whitey?) freighters into Scum ships? I want Dash + Old T-dawg RIGHT MEOW Smug Computers is in Heroes of the Resistance. It doesn't change the factions, it just gives them the Illicit slot and probably a singificant discount and/or extra mod slot worth 3 or less. But yeah, the fang is Dead loving Sexy and cements Scum as 'joust aggressively' the faction. And yeah, the height from which Rebels are being shat upon this wave is saddening 
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Panzeh posted:This is not having seen heroes of the resistance, but there's definitely the undertone that Alex Davy really likes the scum faction and gives them the neatest mechanics and FFG does not have a really similar(or any at all) design direction for rebels. Imperials sit somewhere in between. Rebels have plenty of cool stuff, just not that works in the current meta. It's been a few months with only Imp Vets as a release since Jumpmasters launched. Rebels have had 3+ years of being a dominant faction with the only blip in that being Whisper at release. Scum have struggled since they were created, with only brobots as a long-standing list. Rebels will be strong again the instant Jumpmasters stop being quite so popular. They're already starting to creep back into top cuts a little.
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The Gate posted:Rebels have plenty of cool stuff, just not that works in the current meta. It's been a few months with only Imp Vets as a release since Jumpmasters launched. Rebels have had 3+ years of being a dominant faction with the only blip in that being Whisper at release. Scum have struggled since they were created, with only brobots as a long-standing list. Rebels will be strong again the instant Jumpmasters stop being quite so popular. They're already starting to creep back into top cuts a little. Lol Palpshuttles have been a thing for almost a year now and Soontir was the best ship in the game for a long time and still kicks serious rear end with Autothrusters. Whisper was completely dominant for months until the cloak FAQ. Like what bizarro world do you live in where Rebels have been dominant for years? 4BZ was good and Double Falcons was frustrating as hell but it's been years since those have been actually dominant lists.
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Strobe posted:Like what bizarro world do you live in where Rebels have been dominant for years? 4BZ was good and Double Falcons was frustrating as hell but it's been years since those have been actually dominant lists. What bizarro world do you live in where they HAVEN'T? Don't conflate the under-performance of a specific ship (T65 X-Wing) with that of an entire faction.
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Panzeh posted:This is not having seen heroes of the resistance, but there's definitely the undertone that Alex Davy really likes the scum faction and gives them the neatest mechanics and FFG does not have a really similar(or any at all) design direction for rebels. Imperials sit somewhere in between.
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Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Sound off with your favorite theories on why the mouse won't let the good guys be the dominant faction in our favorite plastic spaceship game.
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AndyElusive posted:Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Those always make me laugh. This isn't Lucas and Darth Insanius relationship, I think.
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