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Xerxes17 posted:Also, I would have thought a no-brainer name for the app would have been "Potemkin-Go!". He is indeed traditionally associated with augmented reality of sorts.
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Hey, GlobalResearch.org is a part of the Kremlin network isn't it? I have a friend who is swallowing everything theycsay hook line and sinker  Apperntly Ukraine was a pure CIA coup and the DNR is a courageous self defense action.
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Xerxes17 posted:Hey, GlobalResearch.org is a part of the Kremlin network isn't it? I have a friend who is swallowing everything theycsay hook line and sinker I don't know about the Kremlin network but they definitely are bonkers conspiracy people.
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Jygallax posted:I don't know about the Kremlin network but they definitely are bonkers conspiracy people.
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steinrokkan posted:The neighbors won't prevent Latvian troops from manoeuvering... Depends on what we mean by spreading. This conversation is pretty abstract. Russians have equipment that is very suitable for massed area fires. That's probably not something you want to play into. But if all you have is bunch of lightly armed troops that can't support each other due to the distances, then that is a recipe for disaster too, or guerilla war.
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steinrokkan posted:The neighbors won't prevent Latvian troops from manoeuvering... Well it's not necessarily an ideal use of resources to have highly trained and specialized soldiers guarding infrastructure behind the lines either - which you kinda have to do. Like you don't use a SWAT trained police officer to sit around in a Walmart at night. You use a security guard and give him a phone so he can call the police if he can't handle it. Conscripts are probably fine for manning fortified positions while the professional troops can play at maneuver warfare, combined arms and whatnot. You need that professional army though.
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Xerxes17 posted:Also, I would have thought a no-brainer name for the app would have been "Potemkin-Go!". It'd need to come with a warning about staircases, especially if you're pushing a pram with you.
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Romania and Belarus Olympic canoe teams disqualified for doping. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/romania-belarus-canoe-teams-banned-olympics-doping-40632746 quote:The International Canoe Federation has banned sprint teams from Romania and Belarus from the Rio de Janeiro Olympics for widespread doping.
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Looks like it's becoming clearer and clearer that the Russians had something to do with the DNC leaks. The "Putin & Trump" conspiracy theory seems to be now entering the mainstream. https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
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Yeah, well. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758071952498159616
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Which right-wing populist party doesn't Russia have investments in? (Maybe some Croatians?)
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CommieGIR posted:But do they have investments in Trump ... Donald Trump Jr's more general comments in 2008 that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets" and “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” (TPM)
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I read an interesting thing a couple days ago that the hacker stuff might not be motivated by putins love of trump but rather his extreme dislike of Hillary. Some of her sec state stuff coincided with rough times for him, and she oversaw the "reset" when he was trying to build influence again.
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"We can't call him a pigfucker!" "Yeah, but let's make him deny it."
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Scaramouche posted:I read an interesting thing a couple days ago that the hacker stuff might not be motivated by putins love of trump but rather his extreme dislike of Hillary. Some of her sec state stuff coincided with rough times for him, and she oversaw the "reset" when he was trying to build influence again. Absolutely, but Putin and state media paint Obama with the same brush, even when he is barely half as hawkish as Clinton. Putin loves Trump for the same reasons North Korea loves Trump - a complete doofus leading the USA would immensely help building up anti-American sentiment.
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fatherboxx posted:Absolutely, but Putin and state media paint Obama with the same brush, even when he is barely half as hawkish as Clinton.
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OddObserver posted:Which right-wing populist party doesn't Russia have investments in? PiS, maybe?
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Macierewicz (PiS member and minister of defense) has some weird friends that worked in security dept during communist times. Also Rydzyk had pretty good relations with Yeltsin's Russia to a point that his catholic radio was blasted to the most of the world from Russia. It depends how  you'd like to be, but some prople have some connections. Probably mostly just business before political posturing.
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Young Freud posted:Looks like it's becoming clearer and clearer that the Russians had something to do with the DNC leaks. The "Putin & Trump" conspiracy theory seems to be now entering the mainstream.
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Has anyone ever proven any real ties between Trump and Russia other than "some staffer once worked for some Russian organization"
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-Troika- posted:Has anyone ever proven any real ties between Trump and Russia other than "some staffer once worked for some Russian organization" Trump supposedly has difficulty getting loans from US banks, and has some German bank assets. Supposedly, its a bank known for having Russian ties.
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Manaford, Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with Yanukovych before he fled the country to Russia. Page, Trump's foreign policy advisor worked on a high position with Gazprom. A lawsuit revealed that some of Trump's buildings were founded with money coming from Russia. It all doesn't really matter though imo. This might as well all amount to nothing. What matters is Trump's stance on Russia and him openly stating that he won't honor NATO's pacts in case of a Russian invasion in EE. He also softened the Republicans' manifesto on their stance on the situation in Eastern Ukraine. It's all very beneficial to Russia whether he has actual ties or not and it's not surprising Russians would support him.
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I don't think Trump himself has political ties to speak of, but his obvious disinterest in governance means that if he ends up winning, it will open the gates for a cohort of cronies open to getting kickbacks from Russia and Putin admirers (who are arguably among his campaign managers) to gain some degree of influence.quote:It all doesn't really matter though imo. This might as well all amount to nothing. What matters is Trump's stance on Russia and him openly stating that he won't honor NATO's pacts in case of a Russian invasion in EE. He also softened the Republicans' manifesto on their stance on the situation in Eastern Ukraine. It's all very beneficial to Russia whether he has actual ties or not and it's not surprising Russians would support him. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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There was a religious procession happening in Ukraine. The Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate is leading a procession to Kyiv, and it's seen as a way for the Kremlin to be provocative in Ukraine. http://obozrevatel.com/crime/17450-krestnyij-hod-na-kiev-gotova-li-stolitsa-otrazhat-provokatsii.htm https://twitter.com/LIGAnet/status/758248144790511618 https://twitter.com/Golos106fm/status/758233871557287937 https://twitter.com/krymrealii/status/758227469132521472 https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/status/758179948167258112
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To be fair it probably is, given Russian orthodox church being basically just another propaganda bureau.
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Was russia always such a dick? To be honest, I only started following the developments in EE since the Krim and MH17. If the country was a person, I would assume it was acting like this due to a lack of attention
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Poland just got its 3 months notice to stop loving with the rule of law from the commission. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-2643_en.htm After the three months the way to EU sanctions will be legally open.
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Thatim posted:Was russia always such a dick? To be honest, I only started following the developments in EE since the Krim and MH17. If the country was a person, I would assume it was acting like this due to a lack of attention
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waitwhatno posted:Poland just got its 3 months notice to stop loving with the rule of law from the commission.
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Palpek posted:Watch PiS start threatening Plexit over this. I'd be genuinely interested to see what happens if PiS hit that nerve right now, you'd expect the EU to make Syriza look like a compromise by comparison. 
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Thatim posted:Was russia always such a dick?
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Palpek posted:Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with Yanukovych before he fled the country to Russia. Carter Page, Trump's foreign policy advisor worked on a high position with Gazprom. A lawsuit revealed that some of Trump's buildings were founded with money coming from Russia. Fixed this for you, since I think it's important to have their names. Palpek posted:It all doesn't really matter though imo. This might as well all amount to nothing. What matters is Trump's stance on Russia and him openly stating that he won't honor NATO's pacts in case of a Russian invasion in EE. He also softened the Republicans' manifesto on their stance on the situation in Eastern Ukraine. It's all very beneficial to Russia whether he has actual ties or not and it's not surprising Russians would support him. Of course, neither are mutually exclusive. Alexander Dugin's been going around the United States, attending white seperatist meetings Oh and he endorsed Trump.
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Thatim posted:Was russia always such a dick? To be honest, I only started following the developments in EE since the Krim and MH17. If the country was a person, I would assume it was acting like this due to a lack of attention It's pretty mild by historic standards for that country FWIW. For example, they are not engaging in large-scale ethnic resettlements at the moment.
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OddObserver posted:It's pretty mild by historic standards for that country FWIW. For example, they are not engaging in large-scale ethnic resettlements at the moment. Except resettling Ukrainians from Donbass and Crimea?  They've been that way for a while, it was just more contained until Georgia. But they saw that nothing happened and here we are.
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Palpek posted:Yes. Russia calms down during economically worse times like at the end of 80's. But when things go well and Russia isn't busy collapsing onto itself then suddenly it's remembered that every nearby territory belonged to Russia at some point in history which makes it a fair game to invade and also everybody is a threat so you need to keep Russia safe by attacking first. Mix that with insane corruption, Pan-slavism, imperialism, revisionist approach to history and ruthless past leaders to look up to and things get interesting. This, but in picture form: 
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anilEhilated posted:To be fair it probably is, given Russian orthodox church being basically just another propaganda bureau. You'd be surprised, but UOC (MP) enjoys a considerable amount of freedom from Moscow. Only recently they've prohibited a priest from service basically for wearing a St. George's ribbon on Victory Day. Local priests may be more loyal to Moscow and more involved in pro-Russian initiatives, but Ukrainian Synod in general is very neutral.
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Paladinus posted:You'd be surprised, but UOC (MP) enjoys a considerable amount of freedom from Moscow. Only recently they've prohibited a priest from service basically for wearing a St. George's ribbon on Victory Day. Local priests may be more loyal to Moscow and more involved in pro-Russian initiatives, but Ukrainian Synod in general is very neutral. So neutral their big wigs refuse to stand up in memory of Ukrainian soldiers killed fighting against Russia, and some of their priests even refuse to hold funeral services for them.
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