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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

sector_corrector posted:

Do you need the CHA perks to experience the new DLC?

Nope. Far as I can tell everything you can build is SPECIAL-restriction free.

Vault 88 is loving gigantic...

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Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!

Speedball posted:

Nope. Far as I can tell everything you can build is SPECIAL-restriction free.

Vault 88 is loving gigantic...

He probably means do you need the ability to make shops, crafting benches, and supply lines to enjoy the new DLC.

Orange Sunshine
May 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Sprint time is a factor of agility and endurance, the more you have the longer you can sprint.

With an agility of 10 and an endurance of 17 (10 + 3 more from armor + 2 from the solar powered perk plus 2 from buffout), I can sprint from the workbench in sanctuary all the way to the concord museum, and still have about 5% of my action points left.

I think with more points in each from bobbleheads and other drugs, and if you actually levelled up to 44 and got the 3rd rank of moving target which cuts the AP drain in half, you could probably sprint halfway across the map.

Emo Szyslak
Feb 25, 2006

Vault 88 is loving dangerous, bring a good murder pal

7seven7
May 19, 2006

I barfed because you looked in my eyes!
I just started. Pretty impressed with the size of the building area. I'm only a couple of missions in, but I can't find any new construction options apart from a couple in the special category like the exercise bike and the overseer desk. Are the other things unlocked by doing missions, or are they not visible to me because of the usual problem of new DLC messing up the settlement menu mods?

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Azhais posted:

Slap in the loot overhaul while you're at it then!

I've been doing this weird thing where I've installed a relatively conservative (about two dozen) list of mods and have only returned to the game to update the mods after each DLC is released. I haven't actually played the game since Automatron came out, but the Loot Overhaul has been a long-standing plugin in my load order because I love some degree of scrounging and scarcity. Does this mod still hold up and/or work? I notice that the dude hasn't updated it since late December, with the Nexus mod page saying something about "pre-production on an initial CK version" over two months ago--seems like that's not such a problem for the "tinkering" contraptions DLC, but could be an issue for places like Far Harbor, where item scarcity might be completely out of whack with the vanilla worldspace. Is this the case?

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Do yourselves a favour, build and use the pommel horse from furniture -> miscellaneous

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

7seven7 posted:

I just started. Pretty impressed with the size of the building area. I'm only a couple of missions in, but I can't find any new construction options apart from a couple in the special category like the exercise bike and the overseer desk. Are the other things unlocked by doing missions, or are they not visible to me because of the usual problem of new DLC messing up the settlement menu mods?

Couple others show up as experiments too, they show up under Resources-Vault once you're done with the prototype. Looks like the basic functionality of all of them depends on your choices. There's a Slot Machine that generates revenue, generates happiness but costs money to build because it pays out more than it takes in, and a mind reading one that acts as a sort of middle ground. Naturally this overseer is a dick like the rest and is only happy if you choose the more sadistic options. I notice that the resource costs of the machines differ based on what you make from them too. For example, the bicycle generator that drugs its occupant requires Buffout to build, haha.

The Slot Machine is probably pretty useful for generating cash if you don't feel like making Stores everywhere, especially since stores have to be staffed and slot machines don't.

All the experimental devices also give you a Special boost when you use them. Endurance for the bike, and so on.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Is that the only gambling or game included? Because I would like to make Hangman's Alley into a gambling den. I can use these in regular settlements as well, right?

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Is there a good guide for the DLC and great mods to use? (also good cheat for building materials as they're PIA to collect)
I remember playing this for dozen of hours at the release and I'm looking to giving it an another go.

Edit: nevermind the mods, found the mod thread.
What about the DLC. What is the general consensus about them?

Issaries fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Jul 26, 2016

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001



what the gently caress is this bethesda

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
I've been replaying New Vegas as I've been moving, and my terrible laptop can't run FO4, but NV works just fine! It occurred to me there are similar story beats.

Fallout 4:
Game starts with your [EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT SPOUSE] being shot
You eventually track down the man who shot them
-If you drugged up an old lady, you can get his robots to turn on him, then kill him
-You can say a variant of 'gently caress YOU' and kill him

New Vegas:
Game starts with you getting shot in the head and surviving in what is basically a pre-industrial surgery somehow
You eventually track down the man who shot you, but your weapons are confiscated upon entering the area where he is
-You can say a variant of 'gently caress you' and kill him where he stands, angering the faction associated with him, using your bare hands
-You can break into the casino's bank, retrieving your weapons, and smugly tell him you did EXACTLY THAT, then kill him
-You can talk to him, and he agrees to meet you in the presidential suite, THEN
-He double-crosses you and sends assassins, OR
-With a speech check over the intercom, you convince him you won't pursue him and he won't send assassins and will flee, OR
-With a speech cheek over the intercom, you convince him to come anyway and meet face to face, THEN
-When he comes to the room, you can agree to work with him and forgive him, OR
-You kill him
-If you're playing a female character with the Black Widow perk, you can seduce him, and he hurries to his room, THEN
-You can kill him as soon as you're in his room, OR
-You can sleep with him, then kill him during his post-coital nap, OR
-You can sleep with him, then wake to find out he's fled
-You can speak to his 2IC, Swank, THEN
-If you present at least two pieces of evidence that Benny's making a play for power (Which can be found in Goodsprings, Novac, and Boulder City), or you can pass some Speech checks. Then Swank gives you his blessing to kill Benny, who returns your weapons . THEN
-You can kill Benny and his four loyal guards on the casino floor, OR
-Swank can lure Benny to his room, where you can be waiting for him
-You can speak to Benny and leave without killing him, upon which he will flee The Strip

If you didn't kill Benny at the Casino, he ends up captured by Caeser's Legion. From there, you:
-Can walk in and kill him, angering Caeser's Legion, OR
-Have him crucified by the Legion, OR
-If you're male, you can have him fight you to the death in a makeshift arena, with only machetes.

I enjoy killing the Friends cast member, Benny.

Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jul 26, 2016

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

WAR FOOT posted:

I've been replaying New Vegas as I've been moving, and my terrible laptop can't run FO4, but NV works just fine! It occurred to me there are similar story beats.

Fallout 4:
Game starts with your [EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT SPOUSE] being shot
You eventually track down the man who shot them
-If you drugged up an old lady, you can get his robots to turn on him, then kill him
-You can say a variant of 'gently caress YOU' and kill him

New Vegas:
Game starts with you getting shot in the head and surviving in what is basically a pre-industrial surgery somehow
You eventually track down the man who shot you, but your weapons are confiscated upon entering the area where he is
-You can say a variant of 'gently caress you' and kill him where he stands, angering the faction associated with him, using your bare hands
-You can break into the casino's bank, retrieving your weapons, and smugly tell him you did EXACTLY THAT, then kill him
-You can talk to him, and he agrees to meet you in the presidential suite, THEN
-He double-crosses you and sends assassins, OR
-With a speech check over the intercom, you convince him you won't pursue him and he won't send assassins and will flee, OR
-With a speech cheek over the intercom, you convince him to come anyway and meet face to face, THEN
-When he comes to the room, you can agree to work with him and forgive him, OR
-You kill him
-If you're playing a female character with the Black Widow perk, you can seduce him, and he hurries to his room, THEN
-You can kill him as soon as you're in his room, OR
-You can sleep with him, then kill him during his post-coital nap, OR
-You can sleep with him, then wake to find out he's fled
-You can speak to his 2IC, Swank, THEN
-If you present at least two pieces of evidence that Benny's making a play for power (Which can be found in Goodsprings, Novac, and Boulder City), or you can pass some Speech checks. Then Swank gives you his blessing to kill Benny, who returns your weapons . THEN
-You can kill Benny and his four loyal guards on the casino floor, OR
-Swank can lure Benny to his room, where you can be waiting for him
-You can speak to Benny and leave without killing him, upon which he will flee The Strip

If you didn't kill Benny at the Casino, he ends up captured by Caeser's Legion. From there, you:
-Can walk in and kill him, angering Caeser's Legion, OR
-Have him crucified by the Legion, OR
-If you're male, you can have him fight you to the death in a makeshift arena, with only machetes.

I enjoy killing the Friends cast member, Benny.

But who's going to pay for all those voiced dialogue options for the protagonist? That's a whole DLC worth of voice cast money right there.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
ive probably already forgotten about options you can take

like when they go to confiscate your weapons i think you can just turn the casino into a charnel house

Graveyardstick
Nov 18, 2007

Are you too depressed to finish biting through that piece of toast?
A lot of the companions have baseline similarities too!
- Dog (Rex/Dogmeat)
- Brawlin' and substance abusin' (Cass/Cait)
- Ghoul with odd clothes and tragic backstory (Raul/Hancock)
- Big and smashy (Lily/Strong)
- Quiet and murderous (Boone/X6-88)
- Helpful robot friend (ED-E/Codsworth)
- Black sheep of the Brotherhood (Veronica/Danse)
- The sexy doctor (Arcade/Curie)
- Sneaky comic relief (Lily/Deacon)

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
Hmmmmmm

Rex
Rose of Sharon Cassidy
Raul
Lily
Boone
ED-E
nuke the brotherhood
so close but Curie
Deacon

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

WAR FOOT posted:

ive probably already forgotten about options you can take

like when they go to confiscate your weapons i think you can just turn the casino into a charnel house

Yes you can kill everyone and everything. Even the band.

It has no consequences outside the casino itself.

Graveyardstick
Nov 18, 2007

Are you too depressed to finish biting through that piece of toast?
Is Clem voiced by Paul F Tompkins or am I imagining it?

e: confirmed as my imagination

Graveyardstick fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jul 26, 2016

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

WAR FOOT posted:

ive probably already forgotten about options you can take

like when they go to confiscate your weapons i think you can just turn the casino into a charnel house

Don't forget being sneaky enough to slip weapons past security, or just picking some up inside (either by looting containers (might need some luck, can't recall if there's any regularly-spawning weapons there) or pickpocketing).

IIRC there's a level of concealed-carry that allows you to hide much better things than switchblades/knucks/.22s.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

It depended on your sneak skill.

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008
Edit: Nevermind, I am dumb.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Backhand posted:

Edit: Nevermind, I am dumb.

Just throw a few points into idiot savant and it's all good.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Jesus, no wonder they all ghoulified. Vault 88 is a uranium mine.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Speedball posted:

Jesus, no wonder they all ghoulified. Vault 88 is a uranium mine.

Oh goody, finally a reliable source of nuclear material.

Time to get the Wakemaster assembly line running again!

Namaer
Jun 6, 2004


Having an issue with the soda fountain quest, I hook it up to a terminal but the terminal gets stuck at initializing. Anybody else experience this or know of a fix?

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

Oh goody, finally a reliable source of nuclear material.
Go out and goo some poo poo with a plasma gun

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
The companion/settlement terminal should've been part of a patch not DLC, imo. It's a very big flaw of the base game. (Saying this as someone with the Season pass)

7seven7
May 19, 2006

I barfed because you looked in my eyes!

7seven7 posted:

I just started. Pretty impressed with the size of the building area. I'm only a couple of missions in, but I can't find any new construction options apart from a couple in the special category like the exercise bike and the overseer desk. Are the other things unlocked by doing missions, or are they not visible to me because of the usual problem of new DLC messing up the settlement menu mods?

Just in case anyone else is having the same problem as me; this mod adds very neat and tidy categories for DLC building items.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Basic Chunnel posted:

Go out and goo some poo poo with a plasma gun

I actually goo'd so much poo poo with my Two-Shot (maxed as full-auto pistol) that I actually ran out of ammo :v: just before the end of the Mechanist's hideout. (Sniping the assembly-line bots didn't help any.) It's awesome going VATS with it and watching shots curve up/down to bag not-quite-LOS enemies. Curve the plasma, yo.

I guess it downloaded while I was at lunch, but I didn't have time to start screwing with it yet. Is it going to matter much that I wiped both the Brotherhood and the Institute (Minuteman ending, and the Railroad is pissed because I didn't order the evacuation) already?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Nah, all the Vault 88 quests are self-contained except for one shopping mission where you have to pick up stuff from HalluciGen.

Which I had never actually visited before! That place is hosed up, yo.

EDIT: Haha, one of the new doors is a Vault Door that looks like a Fallout 1 Vault Entrance. Little gear that pops out and rolls to the side.

Speedball fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Jul 26, 2016

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

I was surprised how deeply satisfying it was to tell Vault-Tec to take a hike and make a vault that has it's deepest, darkest secret is that the pie machine doesn't work.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Apparently that cool rear end queen sized bed that was in the vault-tec leak album wasn't actually in the real dlc, but we did get another twin sized mattress! Bethesda was even gracious enough to let us have sheets on this one! I guess my hopes of ever having a decent looking bed are pretty much gone until Bethesda releases mods on PS4, if they ever do.

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


Has anyone else run into a bug where the Furniture sub-menu totally vanishes from the workshop bar? I'm going to be tinkering around with turning mods off and on to try and figure out what's causing it, will update if/when I do.

E: I was able to get it working again by loading an earlier save, I'll call that a win and just cross my fingers.

Beef Hardcheese fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jul 26, 2016

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Rinkles posted:

The companion/settlement terminal should've been part of a patch not DLC, imo. It's a very big flaw of the base game. (Saying this as someone with the Season pass)

I'm just happy I'll finally be able to figure out where Strong has wandered off to with my poo poo. :mad:

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Is there a reason why sometimes Ada will hack a target without a problem, and other times I'm completely unable to get her to target it?

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Twincityhacker posted:

I was surprised how deeply satisfying it was to tell Vault-Tec to take a hike and make a vault that has it's deepest, darkest secret is that the pie machine doesn't work.

Barlow really loses her poo poo if you decide to be good and make the machines work as advertised, haha.

"We're making people's lives better. Isn't that good?"

"Are you even speaking English?! We're not supposed to make people's lives better, we're supposed to safeguard the American way of life!"

Been experimenting (ha) with the various ways experiments can play out. Looks like if I go for the good option on everything, I might finally be able to get that "reach max happiness in a large settlement" cheevo. But I'm hoping for a combination of experiments that result in totally loyal, mind controlled slaves.

Speedball fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jul 27, 2016

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I fast traveled to one of the points closes to vault 88 and came across a huge battle between BoS and Supermutants. There was 2 behemoths and 5 vertibirds and tons of regular guys on both sides.

Does the Vault stuff appear after you've activated all the sectors? Or should it be available from the start. I want to know if a mod is screwing up the new settlement stuff, which has happened before.

twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jul 27, 2016

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Namaer posted:

Having an issue with the soda fountain quest, I hook it up to a terminal but the terminal gets stuck at initializing. Anybody else experience this or know of a fix?

This happened to me. I think I solved it by storing both the soda fountain and the terminal, exiting the building menu, going back in, placing and powering(?) the fountain, then placing and powering the terminal. If that doesn't work then do those steps again but hook the terminal directly to the fountain. Good luck!

twistedmentat posted:

I fast traveled to one of the points closes to vault 88 and came across a huge battle between BoS and Supermutants. There was 2 behemoths and 5 vertibirds and tons of regular guys on both sides.

Does the Vault stuff appear after you've activated all the sectors? Or should it be available from the start. I want to know if a mod is screwing up the new settlement stuff, which has happened before.

It's available from the start.

Emo Szyslak
Feb 25, 2006

Yeah I built a generator just to get Clem on the bike.

Also the sooner I get a mod to use vault assets outside the vault the better

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Korgan posted:

This happened to me. I think I solved it by storing both the soda fountain and the terminal, exiting the building menu, going back in, placing and powering(?) the fountain, then placing and powering the terminal. If that doesn't work then do those steps again but hook the terminal directly to the fountain. Good luck!


It's available from the start.

Is it under its own thing? I found the Overseer desk under special with the robot workbenches.

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